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Slashback: Picnic, Neonapster, Microsoft

Slashback tonight with some good news about Linux Weekly News, an annual update for interested picnic-goers, a followup on Neonapster, and a few words of caution on Microsoft's approach to code disclosure. Read on below for the details.

Look at the nice horse they left. babbage writes "As part of ongoing antitrust settlement arrangements, Microsoft has 'opened' the source code to some of their protocol implementation source code. Go ahead and read the license -- but do keep an eye on the NDA you have to agree to first. If you find an NDA to be an objectionable first step -- and I'll admit, I haven't read the license because I don't agree to the NDA terms -- then speak up about it. The Department of Justice is accepting public comments from industry professionals about the new licensing terms. There is a real concern that such pseudo-open licensing could effectively scuttle development efforts on projects like Samba & Mono, but we need to get open access to the license in order to figure out what the risks are. If you have anything to contribute, now is the time to speak up to the DOJ."

Bring your own herring. Bill Kendrick writes: "From the folks who brought you the immensely popular "Linux10" event, comes Picn*x11, a picnic/barbecue celebrating 11 years of the Linux operating system. It's going to be held in Sunnyvale again, the Saturday after LinuxWorld Expo. So go RSVP now, and get your Picn*x11 t-shirt! (Proceeds go to EFF)"

With enough eyeballs many programs seem shallow, too. TheMMaster writes "Neonapster seems to have GPL'd their software, you can download the source here, not that I am terribly happy with what happened, but at least this seems to have been settled out of court ;) of course... it is still a cheap cdex rip off ;)"

LWN is good reading. Keck writes "We all shed a tear for Linux Weekly News a little too soon maybe?

Yes, we know we said there would be no LWN.net Weekly Edition this time around, but, in the end, it was worth the trouble to put together a mini version. So here it is; with luck, the full Weekly will be back on August 15. "

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  1. Problem number one... by killthiskid · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Well, I started to read the license, but then I got caught at part one of step one:


    Authenticate with a Microsoft Passport.

    Well, I guess I'm out...

  2. censorship@download.com by doorbot.com · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm not surprised... in fact, it's as I predicted.

    The backlash from the HardOCP incident was quite loud, and painful for the offending parties.

  3. Re:Comments at download.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Uh...is C|Net starting to censor comments?
    Your comments will be reviewed and, if approved, will appear on our site in two to four business days. We reserve the right to decline any submissions that don't meet our guidelines.

    When sharing your opinion of a product, please observe the following do's and don'ts. Do's

    • Do be succinct, accurate, constructive and objective.
    • Do compare the product to other competing products (or to previous versions of this product) that you've used.
    • Do provide examples of how the product or its manufacturer did or did not meet your expectations.
    Dont's
    • Don't use offensive language.
    • Don't submit an opinion of the product if you don't own or have first-hand experience with it.
    • Don't submit more than one opinion of the product.
    • Don't submit an opinion of the product if your company makes or resells it, or makes or resells a product that competes with it. (CNET intends to create vendor-response opportunities in the future.)
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    • You must be 13 years of age or older to submit personal information to CNET. In compliance with the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act of 1998, CNET is no longer accepting name and e-mail address information from users who are under 13 years of age.

    All submitted ratings and written comments become the sole property of CNET, Inc. (CNET) and may be used at CNET's sole discretion. Ratings and written comments are generally posted within two to four business days. However, CNET reserves the right to remove or refuse to post any submission for any reason. You acknowledge that you, not CNET, are responsible for the contents of your submission.

    Did anyone else get this?

  4. They may have given the source but.. by WiredOni · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Are they still including spyware and profiting from that and just changing a few strings? Why have the secrecy with where they got the original code from? The small font on the bottom of the main page and the download page makes it seem that they want to hide something. They would miss out on their spyware being installed if the people who were going to download or have download their program to found out.

    As for the current download.com's removal of ratings and comments only decreases my already low trust of reviews on download sites. Now it seems more evident that if you are the author/spyware writer/company and do not agree with the review/accusations/etc, or you get too many bad reviews, the site runners will "fix" things in your favor. Does anyone know if Download.com responded to those of you that contacted them about the GPL violation?

  5. Did you really think? by /dev/trash · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Yes, we know we said there would be no LWN.net Weekly Edition this time around, but, in the end, it was worth the trouble to put together a mini version. So here it is; with luck, the full Weekly will be back on August 15. "

    mod me as troll if you want, but this is what I honestly think.

    Do you really think they were going away? When places run out of money/go bankrupt, they just disappear, they don't ask for money and put 'just one more edition' out This whole begging for money is starting to sound like those commericals in the 80's "Going out of business, get a good deal now!" But they never did go out of business.

  6. Re:whats the news with MS by Archfeld · · Score: 4, Interesting

    well this is BS, we can't pay with a credit card but we can happily finance F'n paypal. Sorry LWN guess you aren't getting a donation.I refuse to use paypal, after thye locked my account for 5 weeks because of a paperwork error and their side. They refused to even respond until they finished their internal investigation, in the meantime they held my money, the purchase I was trying to make went south and the one of a kind item was sold, and then PAYPAL admitted their mistake and gave me my money back with out even so much as an apology.

    PAY PAL is run by idiots who make a buck freezing accounts with NO recourse.

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  7. Why must you register as a company? by 0xA · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Why do you have to sign up for the NDA request on the Microsoft stuff as a company? They even want the Dunn & Bradstreet number!

    I can't, as a nice person looking to learn about whatever protocol, go and get a copy of the source. Why the hell not? Probably never occured to the bastards that a student or hobby programmer would be interested.

    How am I going to become a good coder if I don't have any good code to learn from!

  8. At least download.com is warning users... by hansg · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Weird that they have removed older comments, but at least download.com are warning potential users on the NeoAudio download page. This is from download.com:

    Editor's note: This download includes additional applications that are bundled within the software's installer file, some of which may be provided by parties other than the developer of this download. These applications may deliver advertisements, collect information, overlay content or graphics on the Web site you are viewing, or modify your system settings. As with all downloads, CNET recommends that you pay close attention to the options presented to you during the installation process. Known third-party applications bundled with this download include SaveNow and TopText. For more information, please read CNET News.com's report on bundled software.


    /Hans

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  9. Microsoft... by edgrale · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Has anyone else noticed that you cannot authenticate with Passport if you are using Mozilla!
    I get the following error with Mozilla 1.0

    Browser Not Supported
    Microsoft® .NET Passport no longer supports the Web browser version you are using. Please upgrade to a current Web browser, such as Microsoft Internet Explorer version 4.0 or later, or Netscape Navigator version 4.08 or later.

    It used to work just fine, oh well... guess they don't think that Mozilla is worth supporting.

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