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A Private European Internet?
jakemk2 writes "Bill Thompson writing in The Register advocates a private European Internet to stop the fact that it has "been so extensively abused by the United States and its politicians, lawyers and programmers that it has become a serious threat to the continued survival of the network as a global communications medium"
Read it here" His logical fallacy is , of course, thinking that the US has a monopoly on this kind of thing.
Pardon me, I know that most Americans are a bunch of arsemunches, but isn't the Internet supposed be a /global/ medium designed to let people communicated despite where they are?
Oh well... Time to move to Andora.
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Well, in America, it wouldn't be law. I don't know about Europe, but here in America, a law like that would have a snowballs chance in hell of getting approved.
As for me saying the U.S. Goverment couldn't control the internet, it's true. No government could. They probably wouldn't even be able to control their aspect of it. The internet is no one country, no one ISP, no one firewall, no one server. Even if they blocked every ISP in Europe from getting out, people would still find away.
Finally, math books without any of that base 6 crap in them.
I block all RIPE and APNIC netblocks on all the mail servers I run. 3 /16's a slews of /24's. Don't miss 'em.
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
"A lot of Europeans are still angry at being relegated to sub-superpower status for the last 60 years"
And sinking fast.....LOL!!!!
...his anti-US feelings. He seems to leave out any evidence that would show that the rest of the world does the same as the US sometimes. What about the Vatican shutting down webpages here? Eh? Oops, only Yahoo! and a legit auction matter.
Why is it that Europeans can be so incredibly full of themselves, their culture, their history, brimming with arrogance, and call Americans the only bad guys in the world? I mean, come on, everyone has their faults, on both sides of the pond, but ignoring one set and focusing on the other is irresponsible reporting.
From article:
"Europe is the birthplace of the Web, with a wealthy, technically literate population, a network infrastructure that rivals that of the US and a rich cultural and political tradition which can counter US constitutional imperialism."
So all of us Americans are ready to run over to Europe waving the Constitution around, eh? Sheesh. Maybe like the Simpsons, the 2nd amendment is there to let us keep the King of England from walking in and pushing us around. Whatever. Get a clue, pal. We're fine and happy to let Europe run however they want, at least most of us. Stop listening to a couple pundits and company spokespersons and see what the rest of us Americans do: not give a shit.
"An important factor in Europe's favour is that we retain a belief that governments are a good thing, that political control is both necessary and desirable, and that laws serve the people. These beliefs are now lacking in the United States, rendering it incapable of acting to create any sort of civic space online or allowing its government to intervene effectively to regulate the Net."
Not all Americans are anti-gov't. I doubt many are. We just take a vocal stance whenever the gov't does something we don't like. I for one, have little faith in the system for immediate results. I think we're going to suffer for years with irresponsible, ill-advised, and sometimes unconstitutional laws and court rulings on the internet and technology problems, but in the end, I believe it will even out, much as regulation of the telephone companies and cable providers. It just takes a while for them to get a clue, which is expected in a large bureaucracy unfortunately.
And I'll bet there are a lot of folks in Europe that complain about gov't policies they don't like as well. And I'll bet they've been doing it for hundreds of years before the US even existed. So don't even start on civilized, conformist Europe Thompson.
"The United States is incapable, for the reasons I've described, of understanding this or of escaping its constitutionally-determined destiny to attempt to establish hegemony over cyberspace. "
Yeah, the US is definitely one big hegemony, a monolithic country seeking to dominate all. Bleh. Try a multiplicity of different groups who all want something different, but only really get heard outside their communities by doing something highly illegal or pouring money into someone's coffers. The simple fact is that Thompson is painting Americans as one giant evil group, while Europeans are all united in goodwill and such. Please. This guy needs a good thwapping with a trout.
If he presented two viewpoints, showing a more accurate look at both american and european wrongs, and suggesting controlled networks being shared among all nations, I might care. As it is, he's painting anyone as a guntoting radical (in oregon, no less) if we want our internet the way it is. Take a hike, I say.
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1) Start by getting your ass off this U.S. based web site.
2) If you run your own router or Linux box, read the relevant HOWTOs and learn how to block all packets to/from the United States.
3) Begin using the time you're no longer wasting on US web sites to plan your next genocide, so you can demonstrate once and for all how much more "cultured" and "civilized" the Euros are than those unwashed North American yahoos.
Buh-bye! Don't let the door hit you in the ass!