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Lord of The Rings DVD, Now or Later?
Entropy_ah writes "As many of us know, the Lord of The Rings: Fellowship of The Ring DVD was released Aug. 6. It is a 2 Disk version of the movie with a few added goodies. However, New Line Home Entertainment is going to release an extended 4 disk version and a DVD gift set on November 12th. The Kanas City Star has an article discussing the merits of each addition and touches on the issue of this being an attempt by the movie companies to gouge as much money from die-hard fans as possible." I'm waiting, but I definitely find this whole mess frustrating.
Well i think i will wait that the 2 others movies will be released to have a nice box with all three together.
No need to buy something now, when we know they will do a nice collector edition later.
Pelops
The movie is what the collector lusts after... the extras (documentaries, trailers, etc) don't have too much repeat value, IMHO. Get the first edition ASAP, and rent, or borrow the special edition from a friend who chose to wait for it (for the extras).
Because I actually just want to, you know, watch the damn movie.
Guess I'm a bad American consumer or something, but if in November I have a hankering for that deleted footage, I'll rent the "specialer" edition. But realy, I just want to watch the movie! Sheesh. Newfangeld technology... shoulda kept my betamax....
(...but what about the "custom bookends"?)
Karma: T-rexcellent.
I also own two copies of the hobbit (a 2nd and 7th editions) as well as 3 complete sets of the other books (2nd, 4th, and uh ... 7th? editions). Besides, if they *only* released the 4 or 5 disc box, we'd be without watching a dvd-quality lotr til November ... and I couldn't wait that long.
Buy now, and sell it to a used dvd store, or on ebay when the other comes out. Trust me, it's not the end of the world.
My plan is to rent both versions and decide which one I prefer to own. The wife is worried that the extra footage won't be up to snuff and will make the extend-o version lower quality all around. I'm hoping that it will add more depth and detail.
So I guess they suck a few extra bucks out of me, but I'm sure as hell not buying two copies of the same freakin' movie.
~LD
not like I can afford either. I'm just hoping I can see Two Towers this December.
Believe me, I know the anger people feel. I'm one of the chumps who bought the Tron bare-bones CD virtually the day before Disney announced the two-disc enhanced version. And I'm steamed about that, because the second release is a proper superset of the first -- the entire first release (which was essentially just the movie) is contained in the second.
But that's not the case here. Not only have I been told, upfront, that there is a later set coming. I also know that the second set is not just a proper superset of the first. The first contains things that the second won't. So my value is not negated.
For the casual fan (and believe it or not, there are a lot of casual LOTR fans), the August release is what they expect: A faithful reproduction of their moviegoing experience, with some typical extras thrown on as is de rigeur. For the hardcore fan, the November release is what they desire: The extra scenes, some more background, a wealth of detail. And the really, truly diehard fanatic can simply consider this a single, 6-disc set that happens to be released in two parts but has all the things a diehard fanatic would want: the theatrical movie, a "director's cut", a Two Towers preview, behind-the-scenes footage, background detail, audio commentary.
To my eye, these guys are the first in Hollywood to realize that the DVD market is not homogenous -- to not treat everyone as the lowest common demographic. They're giving people options rather than making one dictatorial decision. I think it's a development we should applaud, not attack.
(Aside: Note that what transforms this from an underhanded marketing ploy to a consumer-friendly menu of options is the fact that all three discs were announced simultaneously, putting information into the hands of the consumers and empowering us to make an intelligent choice. That's perhaps the most important lesson of the current age: Freely-available information empowers the citizenry.)
The Mongrel Dogs Who Teach
Although the article does touch on the idea that it might be a gouging tactic, they quite plainly follow that up with a perfectly reasonable explanation. The other DVDs are taking more work, and Peter Jackson hasn't finished the extras for release 3. When they put the extra material back into release 2, they had to have the composer add new music. Yes, they could wait until December to release all three... but why on earth would they? Most folks will be quite happy with just their copy of the movie "as seen in theatres". Anyone who wants the extras will wait for their preferred edition, and in the meantime you can rent it if you're desperate.
C'mon, read the whole article. The entire second half deals with this. Peter Jackson's enough of a loon that personally, I don't think he'd try to screw over Tolkien fans. He's shown how committed he is to the material, let the studio make its money while he finishes his definitive editions.
~ Leilah
You're comparing apples to oranges. ET, Star Wars...these all were the original product.
Peter Jackson and crew have an difficult challenge in the making of the LOTR movies--they are NOT the original product. They are a rendition of the original printed materials--books that are remarkable in their depth and detail. That is one of the reasons so many people have fallen in love with the story.
A commerical movie is bound by time, and of course, stuff has to be cut out. The 4-disc set allows Jackson to meet the demand of so many viewers to see the additional content that only true Tolkien lovers would appreciate.
One of the extras on the 2-disc set includes a "behind the scenes" preview of The Towers, which include interview bits with Jackson. He expresses a dislike for the term "Director's Cut" since it implies that the original theatrical edition is not what the Director wanted to portray. In the case of FOTR, this is not the case. The 4-disc set is a Special Edition, to statisfy the needs of all the Tolkien fans in the world to simply see more of that world, and the visual development of the characters within.
Given that they spent the time to capture all this stuff, and that there is obviously a commercial demand to see it, I think that the decision to present the additional edition is smart. I also don't think Jackson and crew are stupid--they know the types of cricism that they may recieve for the two editions, and are more than going to make up for it in content.
If you're not a Tolkien fan who has repeatedly read the books, and seen the first movie several times (gads, just calculate the amount of time you've probably spent) then simply don't buy it.
Just my $0.02.
Die-hard fans don't *have to* buy the movie now. There is such a thing as rental.
If you feel you are being exploited because you *have to* own the movie now, and *have to* own the extended version, then you *have to* get a life.
You're a person. Take some responsibility for your choices.
Je ne parle pas francais.
I feel this is two different situations. The reason I'm waiting for the November release is because the theatrical release and the 2-disc version is not the original. The original was cut by 30 minutes so that theaters could fit more showings in per day. The one on the 4-disc version is the original.
To me the 2-disc version has little value (the extras aren't worth a whole lot to me), since I've a) seen that version of the movie already and b) it isn't the orginal.
-no broken link