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Linux on Xbox One Step Closer?

RpiMatty1 writes: "Apparently the Linux Kernel has been booted on the Xbox. No mention of it on the Xbox-Linux Home page yet. Here is another posting of the same messages at Xboxhacker.net." I wonder if the recent security code change rules this particular development out for Xboxes purchased in the near future.

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  1. LOL by Eric_Cartman_South_P · · Score: 5, Interesting
    So *some people* buy these XBoxen(TM) and Micro$oft looses a few hunderd on each box, and then they don't recoup money selling their games because *some people* use the box to play their MP3's and run Linux and have an all around fun time without buying games? Hehe... that's got me goin' like tickle-me-elmo.

    I wonder if THAT could run, oh nevermind. It looks nothing like a penguin anyway.

  2. Stop Xbox on linux now! by t0qer · · Score: 5, Informative

    Seriously folks, do we need to give more money to the red devil?

    Just the other day I was strolling around in fry's. I had just bought some KVM cables and I needed a gender changer when I saw the neatest thing I seen in a while. I don't remember the name but i'll try and be as detailed as possible...

    There was this tiny mobo at fry's with a 800mhz CPU soldered on board. The thing couldn't have been bigger than a mousepad. It had video out, firewire, usb, bunch of other stuff on it.

    The price?

    Only $129!

    I know a lot of people want to use the xbox as a cheap linux station, but seriously folks, everytime an xbox is purchased it goes back to satan himself.

    Now even though this lil mobo/cpu thingy didn't have the latest nvidia chip, I could slap up to 2 pc100 dimms in there. It's a helluva lot smaller than an xbox. If I wanted a pretty injected plastic moulded case I could walk over to the next isle and grab a project box. (I was thinkin tap plastic acrylics)

    So which would you rather have?
    xbox (and you're bills bitch)+70 bucks for a mod chip
    129 cpu mobo combo and some spare parts you got layin around the garage.

  3. Re:Not to say unworthy to the developers, but: by Locutus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually, every purchase of the Xbox sends Microsofts money to the hardware vendors. Sony and Nintendo see this and dropped their prices (still making $$ on the hardware) so MS would lose more. The hardware in the Xbox is expensive as game consoles go and a bunch of that money is going to Nvidia.

    So, Microsoft loses money on each sale of the hardware and it's been estimated that you'd have to purchase something like 10 or 15 game titles for them to break even.

    Now you see why this is "interesting"? It's a hit against Bill Gates' wallet and there's a pretty cool graphics system onboard. All in a box that SCREAMS FOR THE X-WINDOW SYSTEM. ;)

    LoB

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  4. Re:Any practical reasons? by mczak · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's a something between a Coppermine PIII and a Celeron. Coppermine PIII has 8-way 256KB cache, Coppermine Celeron 4-way 128KB cache. The X-Box CPU is a 733Mhz (133Mhz FSB) Coppermine CPU with 128KB 8-way cache. So, it's neither a PIII nor a Celeron (Desktop Celerons also don't come in 133Mhz FSB versions, but mobile Celerons do. Still, mobile Coppermine Celerons also have 128KB 4-way cache).
    mczak

  5. Practicing for Palladium by smartin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Lots of people here are saying Why bother wasting your time porting Linux to the Xbox, you can create a better cheaping Linux platform using, blah, blah, blah... But the Xbox is really a trial run for Palladium, i.e. an M$ only hardware platform designed to only run software authorized by the Bill himself. This is where we are heading folks, so any R&D done now will be valuble when the real thing comes along.

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    1. Re:Practicing for Palladium by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      But the Xbox is really a trial run for Palladium, i.e. an M$ only hardware platform designed to only run software authorized by the Bill himself. This is where we are heading folks, so any R&D done now will be valuble when the real thing comes along.

      This is also a very good reason NOT to publish and make widely known successful hack attempts. The more MS believes that their current generation of protection is adequate, the less likely they'll devote more time and research into making a system that makes hacking that much harder.

  6. Re:Microsoft losing money on the sale of every Xbo by handsomepete · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ok, so let's say you are able to garner enough support to go on a massive 'Let's screw Microsoft!' binge and purchase as much as 20,000 Xboxes.

    $4,000,000 - $6,000,000 = -$2,000,000

    Two problems I see. And, while I'm not trying to be an ass, it'll certainly seem like it.
    1.) Microsoft isn't the only one that'll see these sales figures. Game companies will too. They'll see a rise in demand and want to produce more titles for it (some exclusive, no doubt) therefore making Xbox more enticing to gamers. The increased production as a result of your buying spree might actually be able to be sold and you may unintentionally help Microsoft's plight in the gaming market.
    2.) $2,000,000 isn't a lot of money to Microsoft. They probably don't even care that it's gone. But $2,000,000 in donations to open source projects would be a great thing. I realize that's not something that everyone is interested in, but if even half the people donated half that money to something more worthwhile than maliciously screwing Microsoft, you'd be doing a lot more net good than apparent net harm to Microsoft.

    Just a thought. Could be wrong.

  7. PSXbox? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    With the availability of some good PSX emulators for Linux, this could result in PSX games running on the Xbox, which would be pretty damn cool.

  8. Re:Any practical reasons? by topham · · Score: 4, Informative

    The drive uses an extended function, often used on laptops, to not function fully until a passcode it sent to the drive. Once it is the drive acts normal.

    As mentioned, this is the same as many laptop drives. Check out IBM and Toshiba's laptops with secure drives.

  9. Screwing Microsoft all the way to the bank by Daetrin · · Score: 4, Interesting
    This has been said by multiple people, but let's try to tie it all together. Trying to get Linux to run on a Xbox is an interesting technical challenge. But let's see what happens if a million people go out and buy an Xbox with the idea of hurting Bill in the pocket a little.

    Let's go with something outrageous, and assume that Microsoft loses $200 a box. A million people go out and buy the Xbox, Microsoft increases production to meet this new demand, and loses $200 million. Microsoft already expects to lose _billions_ on the Xbox the first few years and _doesn't care_!

    They don't even care if you don't buy any games for it. Why not? A week after this, all of the sudden newspapers and websites and tv stations are talking about the huge surge in Xbox demand, far surpassing Gamecube. Developers sit up and take note and start making more Xbox games. There are more games for those who buy them to spend money on, giving Microsoft money, the greater number of games and the percieved increase in popularity will encourage more people to buy Xboxes to play games on, more money for Microsoft.

    Do you think most people will notice or care that some of the people with Xboxes aren't playing games on them? Especially when Microsoft is spending millions on advertising boasting about the increased sales and "popularity"? Do you really give that much credit to the intelligence of the average consumer or media conglomerate?

    Every article I've seen about the Xbox the last few months has been talking about their dismal sales, with the possiblity of an increase down the road. The PR value of every Xbox bought is currently worth far more to Microsoft than any money they are losing on the system! And do you think Microsoft isn't paying attention to the people trying to port Linux to the system and adjusting their accounting appropriatly? They're probably laughing at everyone's naievety right now.

    Probably the only reason Microsoft isn't giving XBox away is a: the laws against product dumping, and b: the marketing perception that if the price is being slashed then it must not be any good. How many people rush out to buy a game that ends up in the bargain bin the week after it's released?

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