MIT vs. Las Vegas

spellcheckur writes "Techno-mag-turned-fashion-rag Wired Magazine has an article about MIT kids counting cards in Las Vegas. I wish I could have made seven figures while I was still in college. Maybe I should get a how-to book." Also, any chance is a good chance to mention The Eudaemonic Pie.

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I always knew

[af_robot]

Those MIT kids just a bunch of Rain Men...

Casino's are the one's who are organized crooks

[dh003i]

The Casino's are the entities that are involved with and/or organized crime, not card-counting groups.

Breaking into people's appartments, stealing their money, harassing them, killing people -- this is stuff that Casino's do, not card-counters. They are the one's involved with organized crime.

The rulings by courts that Casino's can exclude individuals for any reason are unconstitutional. McDonald's can't ban anyone from coming in there; restaurants can't ban people from coming there who come there and order cheap meals along with water to save money. In other words, they can't ban the people who aren't as profitable to them. So why should Casino's be able to?

Stories like this illustrate why gambling is illegal in most states. Casinos are run by crooks and mobsters, who will use illegal tactics to maintain their profitability (i.e., breaking/entering, harassment, murder, blackmail, etc).

I agree that gambling should be legal; however, it should be tightly regulated and controlled.

Casino's don't like card counters. Tough. That's not a good enough reason to ban them from your resort. Fast food places can't ban people for any reason, why should Casino's be able to?

If Casino's have a problem with card-counting, its up to them to come up with legitimate tactics to deal with it: cutting the deck, switching dealers, using large decks, mixing more thoroughly, etc. Plenty of tactics they can use which aren't illegal.

But quite frankly, I don't care if this ruins their business. They have billions of dollars to spend. If they aren't smart enough to catch on to card-counting schemes and develop counter-measures, they deserve to go out of business.

Bunch of big whiners. Waaah! Waaah! Keep on crying because your too fucking dumb.

Re:Not TOO hard.

[unicron]

The reason they don't arrest you is because it's impossible to prove, even if they're sure you're card counting.

And try to keep to the Hillary Rosen, DMCA references to topic that's actually on that subject, you slashdot puppet. God I hate that shit. Typical conversation with a slashdotter:

Me: I'm hungry. /.'ter: THAT'S BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT IS TAKING AWAY YOUR RIGHT TO EAT. IT'S A CONSPIRACY BETWEEN THEM, THE DMCA, AND THE FCC! ONLY BY USING LINUX TO PLAY NEVERWINTER NIGHTS CAN YOU FIGHT BACK!

Re:Not TOO hard.

[unicron]

No one, at any time, said they don't care that the casino's think it's cheating, everyone actually said flat out that they don't believe it is.

Strike 1

Casino's make their own rules as to what's what in cheating, not State Law.

Strike 2

You obtain the money in a way that is against policy in a casino, whether it's officially cheating or not is mute at this point. You more or less stole from them. They have every right to consider you in the same way they would a thief. Explain to me why they wouldn't have every right to take it back?

Strike 3

Grow a rebuttle.

Re:Not TOO hard.

[unicron]

You were doing ok, as well. Right up until that last sentence. Nice "So there!" remark. Really easy to discount your intelligent reply if you end with some stupid shit like that. And, more importantly, unless you live in Vegas, shut the fuck up. You speak about how I'm not listening and how I'm ignoring the facts well wake up numbnuts, so is everyone else. Everyone keeps shouting "It's not cheating!" up and down but no one has even tried to explain to me how it's not. Casino's don't care if you're using telepathy or strategically placed cameras or magnets or fucking homing pigeons, or even remembering the place of cards in a deck, it's all fucking cheating. How fucking stupid can you be? You're just employing one of the many ways in which to cheat, and just because I'm not palming cards or using magnets, etc., doesn't mean I'm not doing shady, underhanded shit in order to make sure I have a much better chance of winning I wouln't of had if I hadn't counted cards in the first place. You seem to possess the same mentality that hackers have when they say they should get off light for transferring bank funds. Bank robbery is bank robbery.

This is a stupid arguement, and it's going no where. My point is, cheating is cheating, no matter how you do it, whether you use technology or basic memorization skills. As for the casino taking your money, I'll admit their may have been some circumstances that prompted the cheater to give his money back when asked the first time by casino officials, but I'm sure whatever they offered him for option #2, giving the money back was the wiser choice.