Slashdot Mirror
Follow Internet2's Upgrade
An anonymous reader writes "This is a follow-up to this
story posted several months back. Abilene, the
backbone for Internet2, is starting its upgrade and
has a webpage up to follow the installation. Looks like quite a few interestesting documents
and photos. The first Juniper T640 router was installed in Indianapolis on Friday. Anyone who's interested in what goes into a nation-wide network deployment should check it out."
they are taunting the slashdot effect!
i most surely wouldn't post an index of some 20+ pictures and have each picture go to a 1536x2048 1.5 meg file if i was trying to conserve bandwidth...
but considering they can transmit an entire cd across several thousand miles faster than it takes me to run outside from my computer room... i don't think the 'effect' will happen...
And does anyone see the general public being denied access to this, because a DVD can be shared as easily as an MP3 today? I bet the RIAA would try to stop us slashdoters et. al. from using it. If they are starting to sue backbone providers, it's not above their heads to try it.
Either way, I hope geeks and others who love progress get it up and running. Good luck, Internet v2.0, because Internet v1.0 sure has turned into a pile of crap (and by crap, I mean DeCSS linking being illegal, anything to do with RIAA, and PopUp adds).
Already the plethora of useful and public applications can become a reality. Real time video conferencing, news streams, medical surgery with full 3d video even with VR enhancement to get that "effect" of real life. Imagine medical procedures being done REMOTELY with this kind of bandwidth, provided it's reliability is in fact, a reality. Double-Plus Good! The talk about the **AA's is irrelivent. Anything that's produced for the common good of the people will always, in some way or another, be used for bad/illegal pourpeses. It's a fact, get over it. __ It's not trolling, it's my honest opinion!
Oops! I did it again
I am at a university in california. Same thing here, the students are not allowed access to the high-tech stuff at the Univ.
But its correct since the the faculty and research assistant students who do research using that stuff are allowed to use it, and that makes for a proper use of it. If you let all access it, it will turn into a pile of junk soon.
I have found a solution to Riemann's Hypothesis, but have run out of spac
I'm not sure how it's architected at your school, but at mine, everyone with an on-campus network connection transparently gets benefit from Internet2. It's very simple: If your packets are going to an institution connected to Internet2, then they get routed over Internet2. The routing decision is made at the campus border. No problem, everyone gets to use it. All Internet2 is is a new, fast backbone that a select group of research institutions gets to use.
I've gotten faster transfers from machines at MIT than ones 400 yards away from my dorm room as a result of this hookup.
Isn't this how most institutions are using Internet2? Just put another card in the border router and let everyone at it. It doesn't seem to make sense to pay all that money for a high-speed network connection and not integrate it with your campus network.
(Incidentally, a traceroute to the webserver you linked in your post passes through Abilene.)
Well, the real issue, now that the people who paid for laying fiber down went bankrupt, is not a matter of investment... :
There is actually a bandwidth overcapacity and miles of unused dark fiber. The problem is to find a major operator that can come up with a successful business model / pricing scheme for that bandwidth
- if it's too expensive, people won't buy it
- if it's too cheap, they go bankrupt, and we are back where we started
It's not really a matter of equipment and investment but rather a matter of maintenance cost and business models.
"The obvious mathematical breakthrough would be development of an easy way to factor large prime numbers." Bill Gates,
I'd rather say that people on Internet2 must be used to fast high quality lines where you don't really think about the size of the files.
Ah, to work directly connected to the backbone, and here I am on my slow 2mbit line
my sig
Is ICANN and Verisign going to take over and run a monopoly on Internet2 also?