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To Boldly Paint What No Man Has Painted Before

David Mazzotta writes "It's not just Sci-Fi authors who have had influence on space technologies. Artist Chesley Bonestell produced beautiful space-art that inspiried people from Sagan to Heinlein."

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  1. Inspirations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's amazing to see how artists can portray our universe. While writers and directors often get the most exposure to the public, the vast universe has inspired equally impressive works from visual artists and musicians.

  2. Can you buy these from somewhere? by jukal · · Score: 3

    ...or paper copies atleast, I mean seriously, those are amazing!

    1. Re:Can you buy these from somewhere? by pretzel_logic · · Score: 4, Informative

      Here is a a link to his book. It also has a pdf look inside feature.

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  3. some more links by pretzel_logic · · Score: 3, Informative
    • Here is a link to Chesley Bonestells web site where you can find more art.
    • His Bio,
    • And some more art is here.
    • But this one has a bunch of scans.
    • Other space artist links.
    this stuff is so cool...
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    1. Re:some more links by webmaven · · Score: 2

      You can also buy limited editions of some of his work.

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  4. Is He The Guy Who... by tealover · · Score: 3, Funny

    did the fake backdrops for the staged Moon Landings?

    If so, this guy is good! Bravo, take a bow !!

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  5. This guy's art and why I hate being an artist. by SeverianDragon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have seen this artist before, I've run across him numerous times on the covers of sci-fi novels and in sci-fi and sci-fa magazines. I think his work is just beautiful. His inspiration? Space and progress, best as I can understand it.

    Unfortunately, this sort of art wouldn't fly in the "serious" art world. Not only is it tied to "main-stream" books and publications on space, but also to the sub-culture of Science Fiction genre writing. Ironically enough, the college that I attend looks down upon any person who does Genre Fiction. But I digress too much.

    Favorite Rant: The Art World today, is confused. It is full of artists, critics, curators and gallery managers who scrabble after the false god of "Art Has A Message". Sure it does. But is the artist required to draw a sodding road map?!? I know my professors will want me to do so for my senior show.

    Like I said before. Love the work! It's beautiful, expansive (both physically and temporally), and (dare I say?!? [dare! dare!]) pure(?). Would that artists of his calibre were more accepted in both the main-stream as forward thinking and artists-for-everyone. And in the art world as the master-artists they are, if only the art world could drop the pretentious BS that they have swallowed with their chocolate-covered strawberries and red wine at every art opening.

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    1. Re:This guy's art and why I hate being an artist. by Angry+Toad · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think it reflects badly on the academic art world, not art in general, that this man's work cannot be taken seriously. His work was appreciated by millions and influenced the vision of the universe of entire generations.

      Isn't that pretty much the definition of great art?

      There's a distinct snobbery at work here, but in the end who really cares - his work did what it set out to do.

    2. Re:This guy's art and why I hate being an artist. by webmaven · · Score: 3, Informative

      Thankfully, there is the Association of Science-fiction and Fantasy Artists which gives an annual award (The Chesley Award).

      The Chesley awards are presented each year at the World Science Fiction Convention, which this year (later this month, in fact) is in San Jose.

      The convention has an extensive art show, with many artists exhibiting their work.

      There is even a 'real-world' gallery devoted to space art.

      So, although the 'serious' art world looks down on this type of art, there are venues, and a market, for this work.

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    3. Re:This guy's art and why I hate being an artist. by wedg · · Score: 2

      It's the simple distinction made between someone technically proficient and someone with inspiration or whatever you want to call it.

      I don't exactly agree with it, however. I feel the purest form is art for the love of art - not art with an agenda. And clearly, this artist paints because he loves to see his ideas come to life.

      I've always thought that the greatest work is not the one worth the most money, or that receives the best criticism - but the one that is viewed by others, and inspires them to want to create. I have notebooks full of sketches of space ships and airplanes and wot inspired by paintings like these.

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    4. Re:This guy's art and why I hate being an artist. by PD · · Score: 2

      Good comeback to the critic: "I didn't make it for you."

      Worked for Dr. Frankenfurter...

  6. dead astronaut by fantomas · · Score: 4, Interesting

    this one [demon.co.uk] has a bunch of scans (pretzel_logic)


    Wow, interesting, the image of astronauts burying their dead comrade on Mars. Pretty contoversial stuff, it must have caused a real storm when that picture got published. Anybody know anything about that picture? Give the man his due for realism. Can anybody imagine NASA producing a series of artistic impressions these days including a burial scene?


    I suppose it follows in the great romantic tradition of the 'fallen hero' but respect to the man for telling the possible negative side of the story as well as the positive.



  7. Red Dwarf by SWroclawski · · Score: 2, Funny

    Am I the only one, when reading the topic of the story, thought of the intro scene of Red Dwarf with the astronaught (Lister?) painting the outside of the ship?

  8. Re:Britisher? by spinlocked · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yes, I think it's a word used in Nazi standard battlefield English. A dialect often found in hollywood war films, as in:

    "Hande Hoch! For you Britisher, ze vor is over."

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  9. And leave us not forget... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...that the producers of Star Trek: TNG named a ship after the guy, the Oberth-class science vessel USS Bonestell.

    Clearly, the best of all possible tributes. ;)

  10. Great work by software_non_olet · · Score: 2, Informative

    You may want to have a look at his own site too.

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  12. Artist in downtown SFO by metlin · · Score: 2

    Well, on most weekends, you can find this _amazing_ guy in downtown San Francisco, who paints sci-fi sceneries.

    He uses a few innovative techniques to create awesome astronomical scenes using spray paint, in under just about 3-5 minutes. It's really great to watch, but the paintings are a little costly, about $25-$35.

    The thing is, you can watch him paint it for you, and go on and buy it. If anybody's from in and around SFO, you can find him at Fisherman's Wharf, usually on Fri and Sat evenings. Neat stuff!

  13. Check the usual sources for ... by nucal · · Score: 2

    If you can find it, get a copy of The Conquest of Space, pictures by Bonestell and text by Willy Ley - published in 1950 by Viking press. Has data on the solar system and describes the planets as they were known about 50 years ago. The art is amazing - in addition to the planets (which are mindblowing), there are some paintings of the Earth (e.g. NY, the Great Lakes, Europe) as they would be observed from 25-500 miles above the surface during suborbital "rocket" transportation in the future.

  14. abebooks by nucal · · Score: 2

    BTW, one good place for used books is abebooks.

  15. Anyone know the name? by ajs · · Score: 2

    There's an artist who did the same for dinosaurs. He painted in the early-to-mid part of last century, and did a lot of museum murals and such. Everyone from fantasy movie effects people (Harryhausen) to modern museum curators to paleantologists have been influenced by his take on dinosaurs, "cave men", and other topics that he worked on.

    The amazing thing is that he was nearly blind, and yet his paintings were more accurate than anyone had a right to be (we now know that some of his ideas were off, but suprisingly few, and much of his work remains in the territory of good guess, but we don't know).

  16. Multiple techniques by Tablizer · · Score: 2

    As an amature/hobbyist space artist myself, I quite well remember my dad's copy of Conquest of Space. I would study it for hours.

    One thing that used to puzzle me about Bonestell's works was that some parts appeared hand-painted, and other parts looked like photographs of actual rocks and mountains. IOW, there seemed to be an inconsistency from portion to portion of a given work.

    I later found out that Bonestell used a combination of techniques. He used to build clay and wood models using his motion picture experience and materials, and photograph them to study and experiment with. These photographs often made it into parts of his space art.

    I remember trying to duplicate the realism of some of his works as a teenager, never satisfied with the results. It seems I was trying to do the impossible: compete with photographs of clay models.

    There is one Bonestell painting of the Great Wall (IIRC) on the moon. There is one cliff face there that is almost certainly a photograph in retrospect, and I would bust my butt trying to reproduce that same photo-realistic look in color pencils, pastels, and acrylics; but could not. When I found out about the photos, I screamed in my head "No F*cken Wonder!" (it was late and I didn't want to wake anybody).

    BTW, some of my space art can be previewed at:

    http://geocities.com/astroviews/

    1. Re:Multiple techniques by 0x0d0a · · Score: 2

      This is some really nice art. Good work.

  17. Looks a bit like Bryce work by 0x0d0a · · Score: 2

    When I saw his snow-on-the-rocks in _Saturn as Seen From Titan_ in the story, I immediately throught "Bryce rendering". :-)