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Microsoft Sinks Teeth Into New Orleans

An anonymous reader writes: "The New Orleans Times-Picayune is reporting that Mayor Nagin is considering letting Microsoft upgrade the city's computers free of charge. The catch? New Orleans eventually has to buy the software and Microsoft gets to use the city as a marketing model to push this on the rest of the country." According to the article, a similar system Microsoft developed for Oklahoma "is expected to expand into accident reporting, video arraignment and automated pawn-shop-ticket tracking." So don't worry about privacy -- it's all taken care of. Open bidding's taken care of too: "Because these services are considered a gift, the city won't have to publicly bid the project." Sounds like dirty pool to me.

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  1. At least it's better than suing by WildBeast · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They're offering them a good deal, they're not suing them. For the non-initiated, it's called business.

  2. Hmmm...Not good. by robpoe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It shuts out network OS competition, and it shuts out hundreds of companies that develop applications for cities and governments.

    A lot of cities and their respective police departments have a "no gift" policy. In other words, an officer or government official cannot accept a gift - as it could be seen as a bribe.

    No. Wait. It *is* a bribe.

    "Here, take this software for free so you will be stuck in my neverending upgrade cycle. You'll have to pay me later, then pay me again when you go to upgrade."

    Something stinks here..

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  3. Re:Eventually... by CarbonJackson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The article says they eventually have to buy software, as in down the road they'll pay for software but not the stuff that is being given to them. I'm from New Orleans, and frankly unless something like this happened, there is no way our city's information infrastructure was going to be overhauled. In the article, it said it was saving us $100 million. Except that New Orleans doesn't have $100 million to spend.

    They're not just talking about giving away unlimited copies of Windows XP, they're talking about modernizing and developing systems that antiquated or non-existant. City gov't could go download all the copies of Linux they like, but they still would have to pay people to build the databases and various systems our city lacks. I recently got a traffic ticket down here. On the ticket it tells you can pay on the web or by phone. Guess what? Those systems simply don't exist! Our city's IT capabilities are in shambles.

    Sorry fellas, but this is GOOD thing for the city of New Orleans.

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  4. Don't think you read the article by nharmon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    According to the Slashdot story... "New Orleans eventually has to buy the software..."

    Yet, the article says... Eventually, he added, the city will have to purchase software from the company...

    The article would suggest that future software will not be free. Not that the current software will, in the future, have to be purchased. A minor detail perhaps, but it does explain why the software is a gift.

    It would be like a gun maker giving pistols to a police department a substantial savings, but making them purchase their own magazines, springs, etc.

    I personally don't see a problem with what Microsoft is doing.

    1. Re:Don't think you read the article by ericman31 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The problem with what MS is doing is that they are managing to avoid the procurement process that most government agencies are subject to. Remember the outcry in California when the state sole-sourced a Master License Agreement with Oracle? And then, after a few months of people saying that the state shouldn't have done that, it turned out that there were some shady political contributions from Oracle to the Governor's office.

      If you look at the history of government procurement, racketereering and corrruption laws you will see that they were almost all passed to prevent sole-source government procurement because it's bad for the citizens. This is pretty tricky on Microsoft's part. It certainly violates the spirit of the law, if not the actual letter.

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  5. c'mon! by eddy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If they're indeed trying to get around the open bidding requirement (I assume such exists), then it's called dirty business.

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  6. Re:Eventually... by sopwath · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Modernizing and devolpment are great, but just like Linux, New Orleans is going to need people to support Windows. Even at a smaller college here in Minnesota, it can take a lot of man hours to get a new system up and running (whether its wireless, a new mail server, or just updating 300 new computers)

    Getting ahead now is fine, but what is Microsft going to say 5 years from now when its time to upgrade again? Do you really think they'll allow the city to keep its copies of Windows XP when the special license agreement says they must upgrade or else?

    How about maintaining systems that have known major security flaws? Someone finding out you got a traffic ticket might not be a big deal, but what about the fact you got arrested 12 years ago, or how much money you make... Not that Linux is totally secure, but theres a lot easier ways of fixing problems once they're found.

    If you need a system customized for running a traffic ticket managment system, then Linux can be customized to do so. Do you need a way to keep track of city salaries, Linux can do a better job of managing a database of names and income levels.

    If the city doesn't have money to buy software, how are they going to afford the actual hardware to run XP on? Its great for gaming if you can have that 2GHz P4, but for older systems its just going to hold things back.

  7. Hypocritical? by no_nicks_available · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If this was Redhat doing this it would be praised.