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Haiku vs Spam

Mark Cantrell was among several people who sent in a story about a company using "Haiku to Stop Spam. Essentially you use a copyrighted Haiku to tag that a message meets criteria (1 Recipient, Pre-Existing Relationship, etc) which then makes it a simple matter to filter the mail. I'm sure the spammers in China will laugh wildly as they forge the haiku. I challange comment posters to post only Haiku in this discussion ;)

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  1. My 575 by Buzzki11 · · Score: 1, Informative

    Haiku not Chinese
    It is Japanese Art Form
    Flowers bathe in Sun

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    Buzzkill Likes to Inform.
  2. How to title a Haiku? by dlek · · Score: 3, Informative
    Interesting plan.
    But can your exhausted courts
    really handle this?

    (For those who don't know: haiku is three lines of five, seven, and five syllables, in that order.)

  3. FYI: How to haiku by zaren · · Score: 3, Informative

    From nmhu.edu:

    HAIKU - (high-coo)

    The haiku is a three-line, seventeen syllable, unrhymed poem, which uses nature as its primary focus. The Haiku captures a moment in nature or in life and freezes it with disciplined language. Each reader then thaws the message, the picture that has been painted by words, and brings the scene to life.

    17 syllable, 3 lines

    Line 1 5 syllables
    Line 2 7 syllables
    Line 3 5 syllables

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  4. [Slightly OT] nitpick time... by billbaggins · · Score: 5, Informative
    The linked article
    Displaying limited brains
    May be quoted thus:
    Habeas is a Latin term used in legal proceedings that means "evidence" or "to show proof."
    Habeas in fact
    means "let us have" and no more
    and not "evidence"

    They are thinking of
    "writ of habeas corpus"
    "Let's have the body"

    Nitpick mode now off
    Let those who frequent this board
    Now resume to speak.

    --
    "The best argument against democracy is a five minute chat with the average voter."
    --Winston Churchill
    1. Re:[Slightly OT] nitpick time... by Bob+Violence · · Score: 5, Informative
      Conjugate rightly.
      Those endings are important.
      This is what you said:

      Habeas in fact
      means "let us have" and no more
      and not "evidence"

      But that's not correct.
      "Habeas" means "you should have."
      It's second person,

      singular, or so
      I learned in Latin classes
      many autumns past.

  5. Read the article... by jaaron · · Score: 4, Informative

    read the article

    mystery revealed to you

    poem placed in header

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    Who said Freedom was Fair?
  6. Re:I'm sure everyone is going to do this. by Samari711 · · Score: 2, Informative
    should have previewed it
    i forgot to add the tags
    made ass of myself

    should read:
    you missed the point
    haiku is copyrighted
    same one can be sent

    spammers will get sued
    if they do not comply
    with copywright notice

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    I never said I was smart, I just said I was smarter than you

  7. Re:Ignorance is beaming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Haiku that is not
    rhyme scheme is 5, 7, 5
    now learn this *you* must

  8. The strategy, in plain English by mblase · · Score: 4, Informative

    Five-seven-and-five
    Aren't nearly enough words
    To explain oneself.

    The Habeas mark contains a three-line haiku protected by copyright law. Six other lines contain the copyright and trademark notices and other trademark protected information.... If senders fail to meet the criteria, they could be sued for trademark and copyright infringement, Mitchell said.

    Basically, they're using copyright law to replace a non-existant spam law. If your header contains their copyrighted haiku, then you're not sending spam and you're allowed through. If you use the haiku header and you're still spam, you're violating their rules and are sued for copyright infringement.

    Cute strategy, especially the part where they piggyback on the geek affection for gratuitous haiku, but it's built upon the (frankly) naive idea that their subscribers can get everyone they want to get email from to play along. It basically turns your entire flow of email into an "opt-in" list. It's nice that you can sue spammers with forged headers for copyright infringement, but that's not what's going to happen; what will happen is you'll get a "unknown sender" folder chock-full of spam and a few useful e-mails from people who don't know or don't care how to use the haiku header, and you'll still have to sort through it by hand every day.

    The spammers won't need to forge their headers, unless (somehow) this tactic gets adopted by the entire Internet, including Yahoo, Hotmail and AOL. The inconvenience will be great enough that no one will want to play along anyway.

  9. Re:Ignorance is beaming by F34nor · · Score: 3, Informative

    Haiku is actually a drinking game based on the larger form Tanka 5,7,5,7,7.

    You write Haiku 5,7,5. Pass it to a friend. They take a shot of Sake and write 7,7, to make it a Tanka. It go so popular that it became its own form.

    Works well with 2 way hand shaking.

    Winter's frozen spam,
    Delicate jelly of meat,
    Router eat it all.

  10. Re:finally! by billbaggins · · Score: 3, Informative
    Also this: forget not
    that this lovely article
    omits to quote them.
    Now the critical
    haiku lines have been unearthed
    (thanks to i0lanthe)

    winter into spring
    brightly anticipated
    like Habeas SWE (tm)

    Each line has a head
    X-Habeas-SWE-n: where
    n is 1, 2, 3

    I can only guess
    That "SWE" is sounded out "swee"
    And "(tm)" sounds not.

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    "The best argument against democracy is a five minute chat with the average voter."
    --Winston Churchill
  11. Haiku by Fig,+formerly+A.C. · · Score: 2, Informative

    the first line has five
    the second line has seven
    the last line has five

    --
    Murphy was an optimist.
  12. Obligatory by OutsideBoston · · Score: 2, Informative

    Surprised that no one
    has thus far not yet mentioned
    the SPAM-KU archive

    ~N

  13. Learn you some Haiku by sielwolf · · Score: 4, Informative

    A common mistake among English speakers is that in English, haiku would still be composed of seventeen syllables. It is not.

    Here is a very good article on it (featuring my favorite haiku BTW).

    It comes down to the semantics of English versus Japanese. Under English there is a much more constrictive syntax, thus the meaning of a phrase can change just by resorting the words (Japanese, OTOH, is more resilient). Why is this important? 17 syllables in English can carry much more meaning than 17 syllables in Japanese.

    Most haiku authors agree that the rough mean in English should be 12 in three phrases. Of course that is just a starting point at best. One of Ezra Pound's better known haiku is 18 syllables in two lines. In the end haiku creation is not a rote process.

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    What is music when you despise all sound?