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Sen To, X-Men 2
liquidbrains writes "With 'Princess Mononoke' fresh in our memories, the number one highest grossing film in Japan -ever- is coming to the US. Thanks to Disney and Pixar's John Lasseter, who has supervised the dub, we can soon expect a fine English adaptation of animation master Hayao Miyazaki's latest masterpiece, 'Spirited Away'. See the trailer here." Reader thefalconer writes "It seems that Apple has just released the very first trailer to X-Men 2 on their website. From what I've seen this movie looks like it's going to rock! Too bad I have to wait for May of next year!"
FIX HIS HELMET!
And hopefully there's more than just one semi-lame "X-Men mission" at the end, with the rest of the movie having characters totally in the wrong point in the timeline tooling around looking for reasons to cause special effects.
And please... Toad sucks, you really can do better this time. Please?
Allthough it's getting better, the film probably won't be show in europe until October next year.
I don't know why, but it allways takes such a long time. It's pretty bad too, because when the film is "hyped" in America we hear it too. So when it finally hits the theaters here (in Europe) people go like: "Oh yeah, that movie. That movie's old, man!"
we could send a message to the MPAA by boycotting [these] movies.
Nah, I guess that just won't happen.
Anyway, mixing the two is sacrilige, as the first is 500 times what the second will ever be. (self-respecting anime geek subtle joke inserted in the hope of karma whoring a few points off them...)
For me, the sound and accent of the voices is just as important as the visuals, so the dubbed version of Princess Mononoke was awful. When trying to recreate the atmosphere of medieval Japan, you should not use American valley-girl/dude accents. Dubbing can significantly detract from a film, and it certainly did in Princess Mononoke's case (Luckily the DVD release had the original soundtrack). Imagine how badly Amelie would have sounded if she spoke with an American accent (Not that I'm flaming Americans, any accent other than French would have been pretty bad).
Having said that, the dubbing on the trailer for Spirited Away actually sounded pretty good, and I don't think it'll detract from the experience. As for movie itself - [Ferris Bueller paraphrase]: I love the flick. It is so choice. If you have the means, I highly recommend it.
Because a truly self-respecting anime fan is able to resist the anti-dub propaganda? Because he hopes that the US release will not have the strong red tint of the Japanese DVD, and knows that it will also contain the Japanese soundtrack and be cheaper?
The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer.
--Henry Kissinger
As CmdrTaco himself best said,
"anime makes you wish American tv and movies had a soul..."
What I loved about Mononoke was that there was no clear good or evil. The central character, the boy, was kind of a protagonist, except he fucked up royally and got poisoned. That mark sealed the fate of his doom. You wouldn't see something that grim from Disney. They are afraid to even say the word "death." And Lady Iboshi was pretty bitchy and greedy, but she turned around in the end. And the great forest spirit was supposed to be so benevolent and good, ended up being a total havoc wreaker. So the movie doesn't draw clear lines about who is good and who is evil.
That's the point. You're supposed to think about the qualities of the character and decide for yourself whose side your on. It gives you insight into human nature. And it's a hell of a lot more entertaining than watching some Bruce Willis action flick where the villain may as well have the snidely moustache painted on his face with the word "VILLAIN" stamped on his shirt.
Mononoke was about redemption, about good and evil, about preservation and progress, and about carrying out your duty even though you're damned to die.
And come on, did you see when he shot that guy's head off using only an arrow? Fuck all, that's badass as hell.
y, i notice all of their femail characters are firmly planted in the feminist world.
No ridiculously thin waists.
No acting pathetic and being rescued by tough guys.
Yes Disney, that paragon of political correctness.
I bet you don't even know what political correctness is. It was a phrase spawned by the right to crush any dissenting thought.
Complain that disabled people cant get access to a building and you're being "politcally correct"
Think that the femal uniforms shuldn't have a plunge cleavage and a short skirt - politcally correct.
Think that you shouldn't make fun of the way people naturally look, politically correct.
Think that slaughtering millions of animals for food is just a bit over the top and you're a goddam freak of nature.
There are places where the networks are not touching,and there are places where they are-Boeing's Lori Gunter
Man, I hate people like you.
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I am a long time fansubber, if you pay any attention to the digisubbing scene, there's a very good chance you've seen something I've worked on. (Whether through BakaMX, Live-eviL, or other projects.)
Anyway, people don't seem to understand that if you don't BUY anime, there WILL be no anime. Look, if Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi is a success in America, then that will ENCOURAGE others to bring films over here as well as Disney. Likewise if people don't support it, it will DISCOURAGE more anime from reaching our shores.
As a fansubber I love nothing more than to see a show I helped promote get licensed and released in the United States, because that means the community is healthy, and people are supporting the industry.
You just don't get the point at all. I hope this was a troll, because you come off like such an ass. We WANT more anime to come out over here. So yes, any SELF-RESPECTING American anime fan should buy the R1 when it comes out, and go see it in the theater, and promote it to others. Otherwise you're not helping the community that you claim to belong to.
I don't want people like you watching my fansubs, I don't feel you have any devotion to the community at all.
-Tofusensei (posting this anonymously because I got sick of waiting for slashdot to send the damn registration email... if you want to reply to me directly email live_evil_fansubsNO-SPAM-SPAM@SPAMhotmail.com (you know what to remove
BTW, just for the record, I pre-ordered and imported the Region-2 DVD, which is very nice, but does have the annoying red tint. And I will be buying the R1, assuming I can get it, because I am moving to Tokyo in September.
Because this isn't a DVD release. It's a theatrical release, and even the hardest of hardcore subtitle fans realize that watching a movie on the big screen is much better than seeing it on DVD.
FWIW, Disney and American Cinematheque are doing an advanced showing at the El Capitan theater on 10 September. Miazaki will be there in person to answer questions after the showing. I was at a showing of a subtitled version of Cowboy Bebop: Tengoku no Tobira where the preview was mentioned, and after the show essentially the whole theater walked over to El Capitan to buy tickets. That ought to give you some idea of how vital those people thought that subtitles are. Tickets weren't available that day (or the might have sold out immediately) but I bought mine the first day they were available. Good thing, too, because they sold out the next day.
There's no point in questioning authority if you aren't going to listen to the answers.
I think that the writer changed that on purpose in order to blur the line between good and evil. In the movie, Magneto was not evil: he simply believed in the superiority of mutants over normal people and wanted to ensure their continued surivial in the face of growing anti-mutant concern.
So instead of being good vs evil, what we actually had was mutant who believes that mutants and mankind must coexist vs mutant who believes that mankind must be crushed in order to allow mutants to survive vs humanity which is just scared about the new mutants.
All in all, a lot of the "corniness" that can exist in comic books ("Would you prefer yellow spandex?") doesn't really work on the big screen, so a lot of the more comic-book type elements were altered and made more mature. So the Brotherhood of Mutants was made not so much evil as it was a "terrorist" (from the normal's point of view) organization securing the future of mutantkind.
Likewise, Rouge and Iceman are teenagers because the movie focused on the creation of what would become the X-Men. So the "elder" characters were already there (Jean Grey, Professor X, Cyclops), while the "younger" characters were still growing up in preparation to become X-Men. Don't think of the movies as The Amazing X-Men on the big screen, think of it as the a new universe based on the Marvel universe. Then all the nitpicky stuff can just be ignored. (Likewise, I think the Spiderman movie was supposed to take place in the same Movie-verse that X-Men does.)
So, yeah, just enjoy the damn film! :)
You are in a maze of twisty little relative jumps, all alike.