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Real-Time Testing of China's Internet Filters

mrbnsn writes "The Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard Law School is conducting a study of Internet filtering in countries worldwide. As part of this study, they have put up a web page where you can get a real-time report on whether any URL you submit is blocked by the Great Firewall. Check whether you'd be able to read your favorite web sites in Beijing!" I've also heard that there are some "western" hotels that have non-blocked connections. Anyone from China care to tell us what it's like?

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  1. And so begins... by Nailer · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...the downfall of Chinese civilisation:

    Testing complete for http://www.stileproject.com. Result:
    Reported as accessible in China


    1. Re:And so begins... by Raetsel · · Score: 3, Informative

      • Starting testing...

      • Stage one testing complete.
        Stage two testing complete.

        Testing complete for http://google.com. Result:
        Reported as inaccessible in China

      Great. All the sleaze you want, but one of the premier search engines is off limits. Decline of civilization indeed -- perhaps the result will create an interesting test case for future anthropology and psych students.
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  2. And how can we stop this? by Lady+Blue · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What I want to know is how we, the coder community, can help people in China get around the site filters! I know there's one research project underway with proxy servers, but it'd be great if someone could come up with a cheap and easy hack that solves this. Any ideas?

  3. Actually... by olesk · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...it depends. I was in China recently, visiting an old friend who lives there. He signed a document saying he was officially a foreigner and suddenly got CNN on his cable. Seems you can get away from most of it by not being Chinese, even in China.

    I prodded the "Great Firewall" when I was there, and realized some sites were cut off, like the CNN. Besides Yahoo and some other sites have tailor made pages for the Chinese. I made a SSH-tunnel back home to god old Norway though (no restrictions on protocols/ports it seemed, only some IP-adresses), so I had no problems. I don't think it would be much of an obstacle for most slashdotters :)

    1. Re:Actually... by doop · · Score: 3, Informative

      I visited China very recently (to attend a conference which was being held there), and stayed in a pretty Westernized
      hotel with internet access.

      slashdot was accessible, as was google, which IIRC was even nice enough to talk to me in the appropriate language. Some bits of yahoo.com were accessible, but not the webmail or news. CNN and BBC News were both blocked, as were quite a few other news sites, and unsurprising things like Amnesty international.

      I say blocked, but what I mean is that when I tried to access these sites, the connections would always just time out while others were fine. I can't remember what happened when I tried to ping them.

      I had no trouble downloading an SSH client and using it to connect back home.

  4. The Real Point by Zeinfeld · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The idea that the great firewall of China will protect the communist party is farcical. As with any wall it can do nothing against the threat that comes from inside the country.

    Of course in the mind of lunatic GOP nationalists nobody in the world outside of the US ever had an idea about freedom or human rights. But the Berlin wall failled and so will the great firewall.

    The criticism that will bring down the communist party is local. That is why they are so afraid of an AIDS activist who described how careless officials spread AIDS to whole villiages collecting blood plasma.

    Outside comment can play a useful role but politicians who agrandize themselves by claiming to have brought down communism in other countries are largely hot air bags.

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    1. Re:The Real Point by Zeinfeld · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Hmm, wasn't it Pres Reagan who said, "...tear down this wall!" Besides, this has nothing to do with the GOP...

      A speach that went down well in the US but you miss out the start of the phrase, "Mr Gorbachev". Gorbachev did far more to end communism in the USSR than Reagan could.

      The Soviet Union collapsed because the Communist party had visibly lost control and Gorbachev was clearly not prepared to reassert it by force. The loss of control began in Poland and spread through Eastern Europe. It was the students from East Germany that tore down the wall, not Gorbachev or Reagan.

      If huffing and puffing from US politicians would blow down communist regimes then Cuba, Vietnam, North Korea would have fallen first. Instead they are still standing and it is pretty obvious that the regime is using the external hostility as an excuse.

      Cancel the sanctions against Cuba and the regime would be lucky to last more than five years. The right is keen to spend money on broadcast propaganda to attack Cuba but completely ignores the propaganda effect of tourists carrying fat wallets. Of course the Cuba sanctions policy is not about bringing down Fidel and has everything to do with getting votea in Florida so the effectiveness is not exactly the issue.

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  5. All SourceForge sites blocked by Eloquence · · Score: 5, Informative
    This is the list of sites that have been found to be inaccsesible. A lot of them are the expectable human rights (Amnesty etc.), Tibet and Falun Gong stuff, as well as some news media (Yahoo Asia News, CBS News, BBC news, and many US-based China news sites).

    Geocities appears to be completely blocked.

    The Chinese government doesn't like Playboy or sex.com - hmm, do we see a correlation between repressive government and antisexual morals there? Nah, couldn't be.

    I have no idea why they censor {Insert Something Funny}, an obscure weblog, an anti-tobacco group, the Canadian Parks and Wilderness Society, Columbia Earthscape, or Columbia University.

    Google is on their shitlist. No surprise given its cache and large index. The Wayback Machine isn't - I'd expect that to change in the long term. Anonymizer is accessible as well.

    Peek-A-Booty and Freenet are not accessible, of course. It appears that all SourceForge sites are blocked (unless the testing engine is slashdotted and not working properly, but other sites are reported as accessible). I presume this might be because Freenet is hosted at SourceForge.

    1. Re:All SourceForge sites blocked by spongman · · Score: 3, Funny

      I would have thought that a country that has a 1-child-per-family law would want to encourage the male population to jack off as often as possible.

  6. Extensive testing by worried geeks... by MavEtJu · · Score: 4, Funny

    Extensive testing by worried geeks has shown that slashdot.org is still accessible from the Chinese part of the Internet. Further tests are scheduled for the next couple of days to make sure it stays.

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  7. I'm in China, it's not that bad... by pfleisch · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I just arrived in Dalian, China three weeks ago and I'm going to be here for a year working at the Chinese Academy of Sciences.

    One of my main fears about coming here was the internet access. I was afraid that they would block any western site that could talk about democracy or badly about China in any way. Could it be possible that I might not be able to, gasp, read slashdot for an entire year? After I got here I found at that isn't the case at all. I can get to Slashdot, CNN, Yahoo, pretty much every site that I use on a regular basis. The only one that really pisses me off is sourceforge. Out of all the sites to block, why the hell did they pick that one? Maybe because they figure that if anyone does find a way to write a piece of software that could get around their firewall, that would probably be one of the first places it would be posted. I can't seem to come up with a better answer. Any ideas?

    Anyway, Google is not blocked, and neither is the cache, so if I ever do find a site that I can't get to, I just use Google's cache to get a general idea of what is there.

    Also, as far as the blocking of Playboy and other sex sites goes, any country where you can walk into a bar and have two prostitutes sitting on your lap within 5 minutes (no joke) has far more serious moral issues to deal with than a few internet sex sites. Enough said.

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  9. Re:wrong by billbaggins · · Score: 5, Informative
    From the front page...

    http://slashdot.org - Reported as inaccessible in China
    http://www.slashdot.org - Reported as accessible in China

    Throw your result in (slashdot.org accessible), and what we get is either a filter on the fritz, or else this tester still has some bugs to be worked out of it. According to the FAQ, China's filter is based on IP address. Does slashdot's homepage have multiple IPs? (sorry, too lazy to check).

    For whatever it's worth, it seems that Saudi Arabia is not known to block slashdot.

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  10. Re:list of blocked by billbaggins · · Score: 3, Funny
    I don't believe China would have the balls to block Sourceforge and OSDN.
    Huh? What does that mean? Why would this take "balls"?
    Y'see, whenever someone in China opens up a pipe to a blocked site, they have to run over really fast and stuff a ball in one end of the pipe so that the information can't get through. They can retrieve the ball after a timeout convinces the browser that the site doesn't exist, but if a site is really popular and a lot of people request it in a short time, they can actually run out of balls to stuff in pipes, the firewall breaks down, and they all burn to death. So they have to be very careful which sites they block.
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  11. But only today by xant · · Score: 3, Funny

    The Chinese government is reading /. today to find out what good sites they missed.

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