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Official FreeBSD nVidia Drivers
Hugh writes "The FreeBSD NVIDIA Driver Initiative has announced that nVidia itself will be releasing a FreeBSD driver for its line of cards. This is excellent news for people who prefer to Quake on the best OS available."
While I'm not going to rush out and convert from Linux to FreeBSD, I've always had some interest in FreeBSD :)
Now the real question, can Quake3 be installed in FreeBSD? I don't think so...
PS: I don't reply to ACs.
This is excellent news for people who prefer to Quake on the best OS available
;-)
Wouldn't this normally rate a Flamebait on a regular commment?
But ... it already runs in Mac OS X?
Good greif, FreeBSD is going mainstram. Yuk!
How can I be condecending and arrogent when everybody else is using the same operating system as I am? How can I put on airs of self-ritous opression when people are actually supporting my OS?
Oh well, off to OpenBSD, or if that too poplar, I'll have to ger an Amiga. Sigh.
Moneyed corporations, non-working 'poor' and criminal prisoners are turning productive citizens into tax-slaves.
Objects in the blog are closer then they ap
people who prefer to [run] Quake on the best OS available.
*BSD isn't the best OS available. Neither is Linux. They each have their strengths and weaknesses. Neither OS is inherently more secure. Neither OS has an absolute performance advantage over the other. Silly trolls. (:
Self-righteous. Learn to spell before being sarcastic; it really helps.
because the demo even comes as part of a fresh install
/usr/ports/games/linux-q3ademo/pkg-descr
bash-2.05a$ cat
This is the Linux version the Quake III Arena demo
from id Software / Loki Software
There are places where the networks are not touching,and there are places where they are-Boeing's Lori Gunter
I thought that included with recent versions of XFree86 was a magic platform-independant driver model, with the idea that the same binary drivers would work on multiple operating systems as long as they shared a common type of CPU (x86).
Is this no longer the case?
Kid-proof tablet..
The C= 64 OS is obviously superior to all other forms of computing technology!
Fear.
I SAID FEAR!
>:|
Seriously though. Thank you NVIDIA (unless ATI releases BSD drivers I'll continue to use and purchase your excellent products, Ti4600 here I come!) and thank you for all the folks responsible in helping NVIDIA make this happen.
Peace...
And guess who in driver department is asleep at the wheel again coughATIcough.
This is interesting, because I moved to Linux because OpenBSD and NVidia GeForce 2 Go did'nt go together.
So, does this mean the driver will work under OpenBSD too?
What's the point of running games on a server/programming-based operating system? I will never understand this fascination. Do you people enjoy pain!?
Windows already has this market cornered, so why try and monkey around with compiling a kernel with new video drivers, new sound drivers, etc... trying to get a game working?
Just install Windows 2000 or XP, load up the latest nVidia DET's, and off you go. Not that difficult.
Not All Who Wander Are Lost
Mabye now game companies will offer FreeBSD dedicated servers and clients as well as Linux ones.
"Evil will always triumph because good is dumb." -- Dark Helmet
and on top of that the link to the actual download has gone 404 along with Loki
There are places where the networks are not touching,and there are places where they are-Boeing's Lori Gunter
nVidia itself will be releasing a FreeBSD driver for its line of cards.
Bah! I enjoy my Wyse50 just fine, thank you very much.
[ed. note: in the following text, former FreeBSD developer Mike Smith gives his reasons for abandoning FreeBSD]
When I stood for election to the FreeBSD core team nearly two years ago, many of you will recall that it was after a long series of debates during which I maintained that too much organisation, too many rules and too much formality would be a bad thing for the project.
Today, as I read the latest discussions on the future of the FreeBSD project, I see the same problem; a few new faces and many of the old going over the same tired arguments and suggesting variations on the same worthless schemes. Frankly I'm sick of it.
FreeBSD used to be fun. It used to be about doing things the right way. It used to be something that you could sink your teeth into when the mundane chores of programming for a living got you down. It was something cool and exciting; a way to spend your spare time on an endeavour you loved that was at the same time wholesome and worthwhile.
It's not anymore. It's about bylaws and committees and reports and milestones, telling others what to do and doing what you're told. It's about who can rant the longest or shout the loudest or mislead the most people into a bloc in order to legitimise doing what they think is best. Individuals notwithstanding, the project as a whole has lost track of where it's going, and has instead become obsessed with process and mechanics.
So I'm leaving core. I don't want to feel like I should be "doing something" about a project that has lost interest in having something done for it. I don't have the energy to fight what has clearly become a losing battle; I have a life to live and a job to keep, and I won't achieve any of the goals I personally consider worthwhile if I remain obligated to care for the project.
Discussion
I'm sure that I've offended some people already; I'm sure that by the time I'm done here, I'll have offended more. If you feel a need to play to the crowd in your replies rather than make a sincere effort to address the problems I'm discussing here, please do us the courtesy of playing your politics openly.
From a technical perspective, the project faces a set of challenges that significantly outstrips our ability to deliver. Some of the resources that we need to address these challenges are tied up in the fruitless metadiscussions that have raged since we made the mistake of electing officers. Others have left in disgust, or been driven out by the culture of abuse and distraction that has grown up since then. More may well remain available to recruitment, but while the project is busy infighting our chances for successful outreach are sorely diminished.
There's no simple solution to this. For the project to move forward, one or the other of the warring philosophies must win out; either the project returns to its laid-back roots and gets on with the work, or it transforms into a super-organised engineering project and executes a brilliant plan to deliver what, ultimately, we all know we want.
Whatever path is chosen, whatever balance is struck, the choosing and the striking are the important parts. The current indecision and endless conflict are incompatible with any sort of progress.
Trying to dissect the above is far beyond the scope of any parting shot, no matter how distended. All I can really ask of you all is to let go of the minutiae for a moment and take a look at the big picture. What is the ultimate goal here? How can we get there with as little overhead as possible? How would you like to be treated by your fellow travellers?
Shouts
To the Slashdot "BSD is dying" crowd - big deal. Death is part of the cycle; take a look at your soft, pallid bodies and consider that right this very moment, parts of you are dying. See? It's not so bad.
To the bulk of the FreeBSD committerbase and the developer community at large - keep your eyes on the real goals. It's when you get distracted by the politickers that they sideline you. The tireless work that you perform keeping the system clean and building is what provides the platform for the obsessives and the prima donnas to have their moments in the sun. In the end, we need you all; in order to go forwards we must first avoid going backwards.
To the paranoid conspiracy theorists - yes, I work for Apple too. No, my resignation wasn't on Steve's direct orders, or in any way related to work I'm doing, may do, may not do, or indeed what was in the tea I had at lunchtime today. It's about real problems that the project faces, real problems that the project has brought upon itself. You can't escape them by inventing excuses about outside influence, the problem stems from within.
To the politically obsessed - give it a break, if you can. No, the project isn't a lemonade stand anymore, but it's not a world-spanning corporate juggernaut either and some of the more grandiose visions going around are in need of a solid dose of reality. Keep it simple, stupid.
To the grandstanders, the prima donnas, and anyone that thinks that they can hold the project to ransom for their own agenda - give it a break, if you can. When the current core were elected, we took a conscious stand against vigorous sanctions, and some of you have exploited that. A new core is going to have to decide whether to repeat this mistake or get tough. I hope they learn from our errors.
Future
I started work on FreeBSD because it was fun. If I'm going to continue, it has to be fun again. There are things I still feel obligated to do, and with any luck I'll find the time to meet those obligations.
However I don't feel an obligation to get involved in the political mess the project is in right now. I tried, I burnt out. I don't feel that my efforts were worthwhile. So I won't be standing for election, I won't be shouting from the sidelines, and I probably won't vote in the next round of ballots.
You could say I'm packing up my toys. I'm not going home just yet, but I'm not going to play unless you can work out how to make the project somewhere fun to be again.
= Mike
--
FreeBSD and Darwin (OS X' open-source base OS, no Aqua GUI) don't share the kernel, though. Their relation is purely in user-land. Darwin uses a version of the Mach microkernel from CMU with FreeBSD's userland.
--Justin
So Windows XP works great for you? Great. The rest of us are still a little pissed about 15 years or so of crappy software.
Each BSD is focused on one thing and sucks at everything else.
BSD's aren't all that..
Each one has conspicously missing features.
I mean BSDs might have been better than Linux in like 1996 or something...
But now if you go on about how BSD rocks and Linux sucks, you're only showing either your outdated knowledge or lack of understanding about OSes.
If you took the best features from each of the _binary incompatable_ BSDs and merged them all together it MIGHT be able to match Linux.
If you're to stupid to realize all the many places where Linux has utterly surpassed BSD then just keep on using BSD, Linux doesn't need dumb asses like you anyways.
Yes!!! I'm a quaker (3), but I'm looking for quake2 for freebsd. First I tried with a .tar.gz version for linux, and next with a .rpm, but doesn't work!!! (sick). ;-)
Does anybody know if is possible to install and play Quake 2 into a FreeBSD machine??
Thank you.
Have a nice day
TooManySecrets
heh no they didn't - you had to install third party opengl drivers to get quake[1,2,3] to work at all.
Silly troll!
Gentoo Linux
www.gentoo.org
There are lots of smart ex-BSD users there and I moved from FreeBSD 4.6 to Gentoo.
I am very pleased I did.
That's nice touch. Precise persuasive words, sharp and subtle morale sense.
That's my Linux boy!
...whether the driver will be open-sourced or not... since AFAIK the Linux driver is not GPL-ed or even BSD-ed, I bet this driver will be closed-source too...
This is excellent news for people who prefer to Quake on the best OS available.
Why, do these drivers work with Windows 2000 somehow?
1. XP is BigBrotherWare. ;).
2. W2K with SP3 is BigBrotherWare.
3. XMAME under NetBSD runs better than Mame32 under W2K.
4. FPS games are overrated
And how about getting some native NetBSD drivers? If we can't get source, we should be able to at least get someone to bash on it ('less everyone is h*ll bent on getting NetBSD eradicated for some reason)...
--*greywolf;
Astroturfing your own trolls? That's not right.
You fucking gay ass queer...
I'm drinking a nice big glass of your Mom's breast milk right now while I fuck her silly.
Loser!