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How The DMCA Is Enforced

Hank Scorpio writes "Bob Cringley's latest column talks about a company, BayTSP, that performs most of the enforcement of the DMCA on the Internet. This is the company that collects data about who is sharing music or movies online, and this is the company to go after when you get busted! They claim to "go to the same places any user could go, look at the same files anyone else could look at, and we only probe the ports on your computer that you have made public." Interesting."

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  1. Step 1 to Solve Problem Company by oval_pants · · Score: 5, Funny

    1.) Post company website link on Slashdot.
    Step 1 complete.

    Excellent

  2. How is this not illegal? by Phosphor3k · · Score: 5, Informative
    and we only probe the ports on your computer that you have made public
    This is illegal, at least in Maryland. Article 27, Sections 45A and 146 of the Annotated Code of Maryland prohibit "illegal access and the unauthorized manipulation of data using computer resources". Thus, in order for this to be legal, I'd have to give them permission first.
    1. Re:How is this not illegal? by SirSlud · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So it's illegal to probe the HTTP port on computers in Maryland with robots because you didn't get permission from the guy who admins the web site?

      Isn't a public port part and parcel with permission to access said port?

      --
      "Old man yells at systemd"
    2. Re:How is this not illegal? by DrSkwid · · Score: 4, Informative


      In the UK it has to be shown that the person making the attempts to connect had knowledge that their attempt was unauthorised.

      Computer Misuse Act 1990

      1.--(1) A person is guilty of an offence if--

      (a) he causes a computer to perform any function with intent to secure access to any program or data held in any computer;

      (b) the access he intends to secure is unauthorised; and

      (c) he knows at the time when he causes the computer to perform the function that that is the case.

      (2) The intent a person has to have to commit an offence under this section need not be directed at--

      (a) any particular program or data;

      (b) a program or data of any particular kind; or

      (c) a program or data held in any particular computer.

      (3) A person guilty of an offence under this section shall be liable on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale or to both.

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  3. Where do I start? by GigsVT · · Score: 5, Funny

    "and when the abductors are caught and you look on their home computers, you inevitably find kiddy porn. So it is a precursor to this bad behavior, and just as the Internet makes it easy to distribute child pornography, it effectively encourages these criminals. We are working to end that."

    Hmmm, So we go after people for crimes they have yet to commit, is what he is arguing. Someone should make a movie about that.

    Ishikawa, the FBI thinks terrorists are sharing information by hiding it in images posted on eBay using a process called steganography.

    What a penis. I guess he doesn't keep up on research.

    If you look at Mark Ishikawa's business card, you'll notice that it lists no street address for his company, BayTSP, just [...] a post office box in Los Gatos, CA, but could really be anywhere in the Bay Area.

    Or it could be located here: BayTsp (BAYTSP-DOM) 3150 almaden Expressway #234 San Jose CA,95118 US

    Just publicly available information, Right Ishikawa?

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    1. Re:Where do I start? by wowbagger · · Score: 5, Insightful
      and when the abductors are caught and you look on their home computers, you inevitably find kiddy porn. So it is a precursor to this bad behavior....


      Logic error (as others have pointed out). Allow me to demonstrate:

      and when the abductors are caught and you look in their homes, you inevitably find air. So air is a precursor to this bad behavior....


      Correlation is not causation.

      However, that said I think people who ar turned on by kiddie porn have a problem, and people who DISTRIBUTE kiddie porn are criminals.

      But let us not go down the slippery slope of incorrectly reasoning to justify our actions, 'mkay?
    2. Re:Where do I start? by dbrutus · · Score: 4, Informative

      OK, Baytsp.net (registered by the same Mark Ishikada) has 4 NS entries.

      Two of them are in an IP range owned by garageband.com and two of them are in a range owned by SuperBusiness NET, Inc., a Nevada corporation. The nameservers for SuperBusiness Net's ARIN range are... the identical ones for baytsp.net and the tech email is noc@baytsp.com.

      A google search for "SuperBusiness Net, Inc" yields a link to an ISP who claims credit for the sbusiness.net domain. The sbusiness.net whois record yields... the same Nevada PO Box as the superbusiness Net, Inc. IP range.

      The NS records for sbusiness.net point to web1000.com, a "free hosting service with no ads" that seems to have a strong presence in the porn serving arena.

      What, exactly, is the relationship between SuperBusiness Net, Inc. and web1000.com is unclear but they share phone numbers on their whois addresses, though their PO Boxes are different.

      So, boys and girls, what have we learned?

      Mike Ishikawa is running at least:
      BayTSP.com
      BayTSP.net
      SBusiness.net
      and is probably running
      web1000.com

      His BayTSP.net seems to be more substantial than his BayTSP.com presence but the web1000 infrastructure is truly massive and if, in fact, he runs that corporation, it's via there that he's likely running his scans.

  4. Re:Mirror please. by cadillactux · · Score: 5, Funny
    Why Mirror them. We just took out the company that collects data about who is sharing music or movies online . What fun it is. We did the RIAA once, care to hit this one while you are at it.

    Well, We only probe(d) the ports on your computer that you have made public.. .i.e, port 80.

    Okay, you can mod me down now.

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  5. This is a private company? by jweb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So let me get this straight.... a PRIVATE (non-govmt) company is basically doing the dirty work for the FBI and *AA's?

    Shouldn't investigating and collecting evidence for criminal cases (which is what their doing, the DMCA is the law of the land whether we like it or not) be the responsibility of a government law enforcement agency?

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    Think For Yourself. Question Authority.
  6. Re:Welcome to my firewall! by faster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    this means you can block 209.204.138.* and eliminate most probing from them

    Um, no.

    Their web site is hosted by sonic.net. Blocking that only means their web server can't probe your systems.

    I'd bet they're using a variety of cable modems and DSL connections with dynamic IPs to do the probing.

  7. Only probing the address he made public... by futuresheep · · Score: 5, Interesting

    BayTsp (BAYTSP-DOM)
    3150 almaden Expressway #234
    San Jose
    CA,95118
    US

    Domain Name: BAYTSP.COM

    Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
    Ishikawa, Mark M (MI70) marki@BAYTSP.COM
    Ishikawa,Mark
    PO Box 1314
    Los Gatos, CA 95031-1314
    US
    408-399-0600 408-979-7969

    Record expires on 11-Jun-2004.
    Record created on 11-Jun-1999.
    Database last updated on 19-Sep-2002 16:19:51 EDT.

  8. We only probe public ports... by AtariDatacenter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    > ...we only probe the ports on your computer that you have made public...

    A number of people have pointed this out. However, if this was a valid legal/ethical statement, then that would be the perfect justification for any electronic crime. A hacker says, "I wasn't doing anything illegal! I was only probing the ports that they made public!"

    I like the argument in a way. It says, "Hey, I didn't go beyond my authorization to do this. Their site already had the authorization wide open for me to do this!" On the other hand, it can be used to justify anything.

  9. BayTSP is small potatoes by -=OmegaMan=- · · Score: 4, Informative

    The big boy is MediaForce lead by the ever-pleasant Mark "The Tool" Weaver. Their complaint level dwarfs BayTSP's. Their complaint accuracy level, though, leaves much to be desired.

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  10. how to block baytsp by reflector · · Score: 5, Informative

    run shareaza (gnutella) and install the shareaza security update, get the magnet: link here:
    http://bitzi.com/lookup/ZYNHYUHEI3VQHUJTTT5 UOZZMUZ 7ADXKA.B3GVXM74XKME5FPIREMVW3YKTW42JSN6FYQO2HI

    or, if you want to do this yourself, here's the info:
    209.204.130.0 netmask 255.255.132.0 (baytsp)
    209.122.130.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 (baytsp)

    the first block (209.204)seems to be the one they're using, my security manager shows 58 hits
    there with none on the second block.

  11. Only a few years ago by killmenow · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Gee, only a few years ago, it looks like Mr. Ishikawa was hosting some porn sites and contributing to the spam problem...

    Received: from out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229] by in7.ibm.net id 935310503.141204-1 ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 08:28:23 +0000
    Received: from slip202-135-81-145.bg.th.ibm.net (slip202-135-81-145.bg.th.ibm.net [202.135.81.145]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA12758; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 08:28:16 GMT
    Message-Id: <199908220828.IAA12758@out2.ibm.net>
    From: (victim)
    To: "marki@SBUSINESS.NET" <marki@SBUSINESS.NET>
    Date: Sun, 22 Aug 99 15:28:12 +0700
    Subject: You provide connectivity to criminal marketing fraud

    TO: Mark Ishikawa, Coordinator, SuperBusiness

    Dear Mark,

    According to traceroute below, you provide connectivity to web1000.com, which operates a system of pornographic internet marketing frauds criminalized under the recent Virginia statute on UCE. They even advertise their webhosting service on the same webpage with the pornography. (I have record copies with me for future use.)

    You are now on notice that you are a witting accomplice to web1000's criminal actions.

    Please shut off connectivity to this fraud. If you continue to provide connectivity, the Virginia Attorney General can have your California corporate registration revoked for operating contrary to your charter (which is to conduct only legal businesses).

    Kind regards,

    (victim's signature block)

    C:\>tracerte 216.49.10.14
    0 bang1br1-tok1.ba.th.ibm.net (152.158.213.46) 187 ms 157 ms 187 ms
    1 bang1br1-tok1.ba.th.ibm.net (152.158.213.46) 156 ms 157 ms 218 ms
    2 sydn1br1.nz.ibm.net (152.158.248.2) 375 ms 313 ms 312 ms
    3 lang1sr1-2-0-1.ca.us.ibm.net (165.87.224.14) 594 ms 500 ms 468 ms
    4 lang1br2-ge-6-0-0-0.ca.us.ibm.net (165.87.32.181) 594 ms 468 ms 469 ms
    5 sfra1br1-so-0-1-2-0.ca.us.ibm.net (165.87.232.41) 531 ms 500 ms 875 ms
    6 sfra1sr2-5-0-0.ca.us.ibm.net (165.87.13.13) 531 ms 500 ms 500 ms
    7 165.87.160.225 (165.87.160.225) 500 ms 500 ms 500 ms
    8 12.123.12.222 (12.123.12.222) 500 ms 593 ms 500 ms
    9 ar3-a3120s1.sffca.ip.att.net (12.127.1.149) 500 ms 562 ms 563 ms
    10 12.127.196.94 (12.127.196.94) 593 ms 531 ms 532 ms
    11 216.49.0.117 (216.49.0.117) 524 ms 532 ms 531 ms
    12 www.webjump.com (216.49.10.14) 523 ms 532 ms 500 ms

    C:\>whois -h whois.geektools.com 216.49.10.14
    SuperBusiness NET, Inc. (NETBLK-SBN)
    150 Almaden Blvd, Suite 500
    San Jose, CA 95113
    US

    Netname: SBN
    Netblock: 216.49.0.0 - 216.49.63.255
    Maintainer: SBIZ

    Coordinator:
    Ishikawa, Mark (MI70-ARIN) marki@SBUSINESS.NET
    +1 (408) 278-4400 (FAX) +1 408 346-0661

    Maybe he got burned and that's why he's so anti-pr0n now.

    See here for some of his congressional testimony.

  12. I've been thinking about the DMCA and by SquadBoy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I can see at least one good thing coming of it. That would be the increased use of strong crypto. And it has the addedd advantage of pissing off guys like this. Since those of you who know what I'm talking about and agree with me already agree with me I'm not going to go on and on. For anyone who does not know what I'm talking about but hates the DMCA I'm simply going to post a few URLs and you can educate yourselves.

    http://freenet.sourceforge.net/
    http://www.rubb erhose.org/
    http://www.gnupg.org/
    http://www.goo gle.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe =UTF-8&safe=off&q=crypto&btnG=Google+Searc h
    Also research on the SSL enabled IM clients and servers out there could lead to SSL enabled P2P. Good stuff.

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  13. Sounds perfectly reasonable to me by Wraithlyn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I see a lot of arguments on here about how he shouldn't be able to find out what stuff you're sharing by probing your ports.

    This is so stupid.

    You're illegally sharing files (I'm not here to debate whether it's right or wrong.. merely that it IS illegal), making them available to be downloaded by complete strangers anywhere in the world. And then you complain that it's possible for someone to find out that you're sharing them!? Get a grip people.. what did you expect was going to happen? Whining about "port probing"... what do you think the file sharing software does when it queries your computer? They probably just reverse engineered the query protocols.

    There will be some high profile arrests, and it will probably cut down on some of the most flagrant sharers. People will still share files, and if the environment becomes more hostile to them, it will simply drive file sharing underground, to private FTP sites and the like, where it has always been, and always will be.

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  14. where is Martin Luther King when you need him? by Chris+Canfield · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The DMCA, which was put in effect in 2000, was an attempt by the U.S. Government to bring copyright law into the cyber age. But many people -- including, oddly, Mark Ishikawa -- think the DMCA goes too far by making it illegal for me to even tell you how to circumvent encryption or copy protection technologies. It makes the very passing of knowledge against the law whether or not that knowledge is ever used.

    "It's a very flawed piece of legislation," says Ishikawa, who predicts that the government will rewrite the copyright law again "in eight or nine years" to correct the mistakes in the DMCA. But until then, the DMCA is the law of the land, and Mark Ishikawa is the Internet's top cop.

    Mark Ishikawa feels that the DMCA is flawed wrt the conveyance of encryption information. Yet his company helped put Dimitry behind bars for many months, keeping him from his family and threatening to put him away for the rest of his life.

    If he didn't do it because he believes in the legislation, then Ishikawa's motivation for helping Skylarov arrested must have been purely money. Ishikawa took half of a year of a man's life for simple cash.

    I was going to feel bad that this copyright-enforcer was recieving death threats, until I realized what he had done to a foreign family soley in the interest of money. Where is the heroism? Where is the spine? "Oh, that part will be fixed later, I'm sure." Nothing happens on it's own, buddy. You of all people are in the best position for a little... nonviolent protest.

    Of course he won't do that: money and success are demanding mistresses. We just shouldn't feel bad for this person, whatever reprocussions his actions bring down upon him.

    -C

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  15. An analogy by RobinH · · Score: 4, Interesting

    we only probe the ports on your computer that you have made public

    Isn't that like saying, "we only searched houses of people who left their front door open"?

    Where I'm from, leaving your front door open is a public invitation for neighbours and friends to knock and come in, but police and investigators still don't have the right to come in and search my house without an invitation or a warrant. Also, if someone came in and stole my TV while I was busy in the kitchen, they would still be a criminal. Of course, if they just listened to a few of my CDs and left, that probably wouldn't bother me too much.

    --
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  16. Pegging the Hypocracy Meter by GroundBounce · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In the past, whenever a story about the DMCA came up, by far one of the most common responses was:

    "Why not go after the violators instead of taking away everyone's fair use rights?"

    This is a reasonable response. Clearly the DMCA is bad because it takes away both fair use and certain forms of free speech that have never previously been banned. On the other hand, widely distributing copies of copyrighted material without the owner's permission is also not right in most people's minds (I realize that there are those who disagree with this).

    So, we have an entity who is trying to go after the offenders (and primarily just the big ones), and many people here are criticizing it as some kind of evil activity. This seems pretty hypocritical.

    In the past, the coexistence of copyright and fair use has worked because of the balance that existed between the allowing of petty violations (things like making a tape of a record for a friend) and the enforcement of big time content pirates.

    The popularizing of the internet has allowed the many petty violations to become far-ranging, and hence the balance has been upset to some degree. As a result, the content providers' response has been to enact the DMCA, which has been bad all around because it attempts to eliminate fair use and petty violations but does little to stop big time piracy.

    This company (BayTSP) is attempting to restore the balance by helping to ferret out larger pirates on the internet. If this works, it could actually provide justification for softening the overreaching DMCA by restoring the balance of petty and big time copyright infringement that existed under traditional copyright law.

    1. Re:Pegging the Hypocracy Meter by JordoCrouse · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So, we have an entity who is trying to go after the offenders (and primarily just the big ones), and many people here are criticizing it as some kind of evil activity. This seems pretty hypocritical.

      This guy is obviously not just in the business of going after people who illegally distribute music or movies. That has nothing to do with the DCMA, its a copyright crime, and if he can make a buck off of it, thats great.

      The problem with this guy is that he is going after people like Dmitry Sklyarov and others who are breaking the DCMA, and by doing so he is contributing to the indocrination of that law, which is bad for all. Basically, he's back for more cash - taking advantage of an unjust law while it lasts.

      As a result, the content providers' response has been to enact the DMCA, which has been bad all around because it attempts to eliminate fair use and petty violations but does little to stop big time piracy.

      The DMCA is *not* about priacy. It is about breaking security. Napster and its friends are not about encryption or security, they are about copyrighted materials. Two very different things. Like I said, if this guy wants to go after copyright pirates, he can do it, with my blessing even. I'm pissed about him going after people that do nothing more than talk about security concepts for any number of reasons: academic knowlege, improvement of security, etc..

      Everyone seems to forget that copyright piracy was on the books long ago. The DCMA is the new evil that threatens to put any one of us in jail for describing how to watch our own DVDs on our own laptops.

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  17. "Probing His Open Ports...." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The following is public information culled from
    public websites :

    Public information - Mark Ishikawa

    http://www.toyotaatlantic.com/Team.asp?ID=43 - toyota racing team same cell #
    Ishikawa, Mark M (MI70) marki@BAYTSP.COM
    Ishikawa,Mark PO Box 1314
    Los Gatos, CA 95031-1314
    US 408-399-0600 408-979-7969

    BaySpider BayTSP.com
    Contact: Mark Ishikawa (CEO)
    3150 Almaden Expressway #234
    San Jose, CA 95118 USA
    Phone: +1(408)979-7900
    Fax: +1(408)979-7969
    E-mail: sales@baytsp.com
    World Wide Web: http://www.baytsp.com/

    BayTSP.com Intellectual property protection: About BayTSP: Contact Us
    15466 Los Gatos Blvd. Suite 109-368 Front Desk Fax Toll Free 1.877.9BAYTSP
    Information Career Opportunities Investment Opportunities Sales Information Your
    Thoughts spiderbites@baytsp.com

    Phone # listing for Ihsikawa in CA
    Results:
    MARK M ISHIKAWA
    LOS GATOS CA 95030
    (408) 399-4361
    Results:
    MARK M ISHIKAWA
    LOS GATOS CA 95030
    (408) 399-4391
    Results:
    MARK M ISHIKAWA
    LOS GATOS CA 95030
    (408) 399-4571

    http://www.clerkrecordersearch.org/

    16346860 07/08/2002 1 RELEASE LIEN ISHIKAWA, MARK M (E) COUNTY OF SANTA CLARA TAX COLLECTOR (R)
    16147701 03/08/2002 1 CERT AMOUNT DUE ISHIKAWA, MARK M (R) STATE OF CALIFORNIA FRANCHISE TAX BOARD (E)
    16088662 02/01/2002 1 CERT AMT DUE ISHIKAWA, MARK M (R) COUNTY OF SANTA CLARA TAX COLLECTOR (E)
    16088661 02/01/2002 1 CERT AMT DUE ISHIKAWA, MARK M (R) COUNTY OF SANTA CLARA TAX COLLECTOR (E)
    15957939 11/13/2001 8 DEED OF TRUST & ASSIGN RENT ISHIKAWA, MARK M (R)
    HOUSEHOLD FINANCE CORP CA (E)
    14624059 01/28/1999 1 RELEASE LIEN ISHIKAWA, MARK M (E) FRANCHISE TAX BOARD (R)
    14595929 01/13/1999 1 REQUEST FOR NOTICE DEFAULT ISHIKAWA, MARK M (R)
    BARRETT, JOHN C (R)
    14595928 01/13/1999 1 RELS TAX LIEN ISHIKAWA, MARK M (E) UNITED STATES (R)
    14595927 01/13/1999 1 RELS TAX LIEN ISHIKAWA, MARK M (E) UNITED STATES (R)
    14595926 01/13/1999 4 DEED OF TRUST & ASSIGN RENT ISHIKAWA, MARK M (R)
    BARRETT, JOHN C (E)

    A possible alternate email address for
    Mr Ishikawa.
    Mark Ishikawa
    Los Gatos, US
    marki@valuserve.com

    Now I am not saying The above are all the same
    Mark Ishikawa, but at least some mark ishikawa lives in santa clara county and seems to not pay his taxes.....

    Oh where, oh where has my privacy gone???

  18. We only enter unlocked homes... by KFury · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The problem, unlike what you probably expected after my trolling subject, is that just because someone left a port open and had DCMA-relevant content behind it, doesn't mean they broke the law.

    If my mom flips a switch on OS X to allow personal web sharing, and doesn't understand that this means someone can traverse her iTunes library, then just because some guy can exploit that security breach doesn't mean that she violated the DCMA any more than someone who forgot their purse on a bench, and someone photocopied the book they found inside.

  19. 84% of us are guilty. by KFury · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The next time an IE glitch is found that renders your machine open to full directory access and, after a reasonable amount of time, you still haven't applied the patch (if Microsoft actually released one), then are you guilty of DCMA violations?

    Of course not, but what if people intentionally didn't apply the patch, and others created handy software to exploit the hole, so by tacit agreement you share in this 'non-intentional' way. Now don't you think they'd go after everyone?

    Because that's basically the same as leaving ftp access open...

  20. Re:Hi Mark by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Right, well, he frequently used to post on YNOT News - an adult webmaster information board.

    Doesn't mean he was one, of course. He definitely used to be 'chief operating officer' of Infonent.com, Inc. His current fax is (408)979-7969... and an example of his current work is here.

    Of course, he also gets mentioned in Sex Tracker press releases. He claims to be an 'anti-porn advocate', which is interesting, given the work he does protecting the valuable intellectual property of Cinnamonbunz, 'the largest collection of sexy, erotic models!' and Suze Randall the erotic photographer.

    I wondered if this had anything to do with him (if it does, he's got some nerve 'I hope you don't mind me taking a graphic from your homepage!') particularly given the reference to driving and the Skyline Blvd. address again. He works for an erotic photographer, amongst others.

    Let's see what else; if that is him, he has a web page on AOL of all places
    . Plugging that new information into Google we also get maki177@aol.com as a potential address; if you search Google for maki177, you discover 'makiboy' is an alias apparently used by whichever Mark Ishikawa this one is, and taking this chain of improbability to its logical conclusion we discover makiboy@hotmail.com, NYC Jock/Ballet Sissy, and, last but not least, In Search Of... Men Seeking Men. The last includes the interesting blurb, "would like to hear from or meet other trim, athletic guys, 18 - 30s, who enjoy footed nylon or lycra tights. Shiny lycra is best, but nylon is okay too, as long as the tights are footed."

    Oh, and he lies to his ballet-loving pals about his age :-)

    Hey, makiboy, it's all publicly available information. Now you see why people don't go snooping - they might come to the wrong conclusion - if this is wrong?

    Answers on a postcard please to:

    "We lurve those tights!",
    19020 Skyline Blvd.
    Los Gatos, CA 95033

    The small print: Half of this information is speculative, uncertain, and totally devoid of context. Don't think of it as fact. But it's a similar style to the information he'll use to report you to the cops - therefore, I would consider it to be poetic justice of a sort.