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Which Artists Support Music Swapping?
jtauber asks: "With RIAA's new campaign to 'educate' people that unauthorized downloads of music are illegal and with the range of artists who are endorsing the campaign, I thought it would be interesting to ask the question: which well-known artists (if any) go against the RIAA and are _in favour_ of music swapping? Certainly many unsigned bands like my own encourage it, but what about those signed with major record labels?" We did a question along a similar veign not too long ago, except its focus was non-RIAA Record Labels. What artists are you aware of (popular or not) who have come out in favor of music-swapping?
that moron fred durst of Limp Bisquick supported napter
Rage Against the Machine would like to sincerely apologise to all of our fans who were kicked off of Napster for downloading 'Renegades'. The move to take action against Rage fans was taken completely unilaterally by our new management. In their zeal to keep the record from getting out before the release date, they did not consult the band before instructing Sony Music Corp. to institute the Napster ban. As soon as I was made aware of this horrible mistake on their part, I immediately phoned our management and the record company to see what we could do to get our Napster-using fans reinstated as soon as possible. I'm told that the easiest way to get back on Napster as quickly as possible is to download one of many files floating around on the Internet to get around the ban.
Most of the artists who came out against it in the early days, like Metallica, did so because studio tracks were being leaked before they had even been decided upon. Because they don't face a lot of risk from any potetial lost sales, or gains from additional sales, the sales aspect is not a big concern at least from what I have seen. I think if pre release tracks were not shared, most artists would not care. The artists coming out against sharing are probably doing it to please their contract holders.
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It's quite irrelevant what most popular artists think, since they don't own the copyright on their recordings.
What artists are you aware of (popular or not) who have come out in favor of music-swapping?
Me!!
Although, with the really lame license I have, I'm desperately wishing for the Creative Commons to get the heck on with it and put their license generator online!
- Phish
- Grateful Dead
- Tenacious D
- Oysterhead
and so on. There are several communities that can help you get lossless versions of shows from these bands and others:- www.etree.org
- www.furthurnet.com
-MikeBONO: "My feeling," he adds, "is that it is cool for people to share our music -- as long as no one is making money from the process. We tell people who come to our concerts that they can tape the shows if they want. I think it is cool that people are so passionate about our music"
THE EDGE: The terror of online song-trading and bootlegging that has occurred in the wake of Napster is not something the members of U2 are losing any sleep over. "In fact, as long as fans aren't being exploited and bootleggers aren't raking in huge money from the practice, it's a part of the music business they've come to accept."
You can find four (count 'em!) complete and unrestricted songs by yours truly here. They're in RealAudio, I'm afraid; at the time I didn't know any better. I'll get around to replacing them with MP3s or OGGs one of these years. I'm too old and cynical for a career as a musician now, so do whatever you like with them, as long as you don't sell them or represent them as someone else's work. Ta!
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...Janis Ian?
She has at least 2 articles on her website, http://www.janisian.com, that are quite anti-RIAA.
Only in slashdot are posts of solidarity modded at -1 Redundant, while posts of antagonism are modded as -1 Flamebait.
Projekt Records' frontman Sam Rosenthal has been quite supportive of P2P music trading, saying that it's an excellent way for the "smaller" labels like his to get more of a widespread audience. You can find a lot of Projekt bands on mp3.com, etc, too. If you sign up for the weekly email list thing, he'll rant about it occasionally. He was quite pissed off when Napster got shut down.
Al Qaeda has ninjas!
Radiohead have commented about this before, saying that they're ok with live concerts being redistributed at will, but apparently their publishers aren't quite as keen as they've shut down several sites because of it.
Prince. He released a single on Napster. He appears to take the U2 stance: He doesn't like bootleggers who rake in cash from his work. But he appears to appreciate anything that shakes up a broken system... as explained in: A Nation of Thieves (As seen in a previous Slashback)
The recording companies continue to rake in billions, and artists continue to starve. The labels are the real pirates! Any RIAA affiliated artists who publicly voice their support for file trading face retaliation from management. Boycott the Recording industry.
How ya like dat?
I assume the question is what artists support Napster scale digital swapping. Heck, even Lars "Napster Bad!" Ulrich has supported analog tape swapping amongst friends. It's the lossless generational copy, free for all with the entire universe he doesn't support.
I never understood. Limp Bizkit vs Steely Dan. Limp Bizkit vs Steely Dan. Not that I'm in the market, but if I was looking, the choice seems pretty obvious to me.
Ani at least used to have a thing on the back of her CDs about it being OK to make copies for your friends, but that they should buy it if they can afford it. This was before Napsterchic was in effect. I wouldn't be surprised if she wasn't into it anymore, she's lost some of her coolness. :P
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David Bowie is the most enlightened artist that I know of as far as this goes. I don't care for his music, but he seems to "get it."
:-(
OTOH, his site is flash only
Now, flame on about how he is already rich, blah, blah.
-Peter
I don't think it's clear at all from the text of the license that this is the case. The only relevant clause is: The music is not used for any form of advertising or promotion. You certainly can't use the music in an advertisement, but that's something else. I don't think a court would consider playing a song for free on an ad-supported station "use in advertising or promotion."
Regardless, it's a little ambiguous, and it's a pretty lamely worded license in general. This sort of confusion is why I'm excited about the CC's license generator project. Like it or not, there is a reason they have actual lawyers write this crap up.
Note that the original question was "which artists support file-swapping" -- which this license explicitly does. The question was not "which artists use licenses that would make Richard Stallman happy".
Judging by this article in Salon Magazine, I'm guesing that Courtney Love isn't that big a fan of the recording industry and she (sort of) supported/defended Napster when it was still around.
Karma: Chevy Kavalierma.
Check out www.musiciansview.com I haven't had alot of time to work on it but I will post any info I can confirm at contribute@musiciansview.com with info on how a musician or band sees it.
Novel theory: Modern Man evolved from psychopath
Dave Matthews Band was on Carson (Daly) a month or two ago, and said (if I remember correctly) that they don't mind song-trading at all, except when it involves their unreleased studio tracks, which they're a little embarrassed about.
...which is the most reasonable thing in the world. There's a real need for making licensing options a natural part of music distribution, for both the artist and consumer. I'd actually like to see an industry standard for encoding specific licensing grants (e.g. commercial use, derivative works, etc.) as a part of standard audio formats. A curious listener could just click a button in their audio player to see a track's licensing. Since audio generally doesn't come with a README, making this information part of the file format itself is essential.
Responsibility for respecting copyright ultimately falls on individual consumers -- so it seems a good idea to make that responsibility as easily and approachable as possible.
and encourage non-commercial trading of live performances of their shows. A given venue they are playing at may not permit taping, of course. :),
Some links if you're unfamiliar with the Dots:
fall 2002 north american tour dates so you can go tape
The Official Live LPD Archive, roughly 30 live shows complete, over much of their twenty-year history
LPD official website
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I think just about every single indie band supports it, or at least doesn't mind. The more people these bands can get their music out to the more people who will come to their shows. I know that I will look up show listings for my area, download some MP3s of the bands I haven't heard before, and make my decision as to who gets my money for that weekend.
I know I've heard a few bands say that turnout for shows in smaller cities has actually been getting better, and a lot of kids will say it's because they checked them out via MP3.
Leftover Salmon those crazy "Polyethnic Cajun Slamgrass" musicians allow live taping of their shows and have several shows "off the board" up in MP3 format on their website here.
:)
I think the majority of bands of the "jam band" genre are cool about low key bootlegging and people trading their music.
The local jam band from my whereabouts Toadstool Jamboree is pretty cool about bootlegging as well. I got permission to throw my DAT on the board at a couple of their shows.
I think its mostly the uptight corporate bands that have such an issue with people MP3'ing. Most of the lowerkey / unsigned / indie bands don't really make much off of CD Sales and aren't in music to make a bundle, rather they love entertaining and would rather you buy a t-shirt and pay admission to their show. They also manage themselves typically so they aren't getting screwed by industry insiders.
Just my Opinion, but check out Toadstool and LOS... rocking music, plus you get to say slamgrass
Rule of Life Number 2: Remember, it can all go to hell at any minute. --Jimmy Buffet
...on www.musicunited.org which is the website of the RIAA backed organization behind the recent ads and TV spots. If you check out their page of quotes you'll notice that some of the quotes like "artists should get paid" have apparently been taken out of context. And their list of 80 names really isn't very impressive considering the numbers they could have gotten.
For instance, they quote Neil Young as being against file-sharing by using a quote from Yahoo! Entertainment News: "I don't like to have a record out and have people hear versions that we don't want them to hear. With the Internet, there is no more privacy and not even the chance to express yourself in front of your audience in the intimacy of a concert that lets songs evolve. You can't do this because they immediately get circulated."
For enough, but this doesn't necessary mean he's against file-sharing, only that he's frustrated when unauthorized songs are released. Maybe they did get his permission, but since he isn't listed on the actual ads I sincerely doubt it. He's also on the record as talking to BusinessWeek about Napster: "It's great. Whatever gets the music around. The record labels will worry about that, and I'll worry about the music." I wonder how many of these other artists have similar views and if they realize they are the being represented as the poster children for anti-piracy.
I would LOVE to see someone make a parody of the these ads with a list of equally prominent artists that have come out in favour of file-sharing. You could change the tag-line to "we don't care about file sharing" or something, and maybe take a dig at the RIAA for mispresenting certain artist's views ("libel is wrong").
My next sig will be ready soon, but friends can beat the rush!
In another interview I read, she said she composed the album with the idea in her mind of her fans sharing the album through the web, and wrote much of the lyrics as a kind of "whispered secret" for listeners to enjoy. I think she's one of the few artists who realizes that without her fans, she wouldn't be where she is today.
Chuck D. has also seemed to be fairly clueful about the web, although I'm not sure how he feels about P2P apps.
Free music from Jack Merlot.
I do. And you're right, that's pretty much exactly what happened. It got even funnier when Offspring started to sell Napster-logo hats off their website.
There were 25 copies pressed on vinyl that were given to friends with instructions to copy it and give to the world.
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From spfc.org:
"A followup to Machina, and the last album from the band. As a final farewell, and a "fuck you" to a record label that didn't give them the support they deserved, a limited pressing album was made (3x10" +
2LP, 5 discs total) and given away to be bootlegged out among the fans."
"Just to clear up any possible confusion, this is the final album from the band. There are 25 copies on vinyl only. There is not, and will not be a CD pressing."
Feel free to share my music files:
bengarvey.com
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They don't technically exist anymore, but they're all for getting their music heard. Download their songs from mp3.com, or the solo songs from the lead guitar/singer, Charles Balter.
I 'worked' for two years as a musician(only - no day job), and it was hard work and rewarding ($$ and otherwise).
Fun is fun, but people should get paid for entertainment. It's their time and talent in exchange for your money.
Hmm. That sounds a lot like my day job.
Forgive me, but when I hear 'get a real job' I about have to smack the person (who most likely has never even attempted what I do - drunken kararoke doesn't count)