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Console Image Quality Guide

Jakub writes "We've posted a comprehensive guide on how to improve your console's image quality. It covers everything from the various connectors through cables to fine-tuning by modifying sharpness and brightness. Though the article uses the prolific PlayStation 2 as an example, it applies equally well to all video devices."

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  1. console image quality?? by matt4077 · · Score: 5, Funny

    My console is text-only. Are these console-images a new feature in the Linux 8.0 that just came out?

    1. Re:console image quality?? by setzman · · Score: 5, Funny

      Answer is yes since nearly all consoles can run Linux these days...

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  2. Improving image quality by bytesmythe · · Score: 4, Funny
    guide on how to improve your console's image quality.

    • squint
    • get glasses
    • stop playing with yourself

    I think those would be a good start. If they don't help, try:

    • turning up the brightness knob
    • turning on the display
    • plugging in the display
    • plugging in the console
    • inserting a game

    If after following these steps your image quality hasn't improved, consider taking the console back for a refund. Or better yet, just send it to me and I'll take care of it for you.

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  3. ad for monster by lubricated · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This really isn't about improving your image quality. This article is one giant add for monster cable. When you buy monster cable you not only pay for cable you also pay for advertising. There are other good cables out there.

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    1. Re:ad for monster by jonnythan · · Score: 5, Informative

      But the article is all about Monster Game.

      Any audio or videophile will tell you Monster Cable is way overpriced... and Monster Game?! Stick another name on it and up the price!

      There is tons of good cable out there. Notice he didn't compare the Monster Game S-Video with the $6 Wal-Mart S-Video. Hmmm.

    2. Re:ad for monster by BaronVonDuvet · · Score: 3, Informative
      I worked in hi-fi/tv sales for a number of years so spent quite a long time trying different cables. All hi-fi people agree that the cheap cable you get in the box isn't up to much and that a slightly more expensive shielded cable will give you better results. The problem is the differences are small, so most people would be hard pushed to tell the difference between a very expensive cable (such as Monster) and something cheap from Wal-Mart.

      It's definitely better to have something like S-Video rather than an RF connector. However, a cheap S-Video would only look bad compared to a more expensive cable if you are using good quality Home Cinema equipment. I'm not convinced the output of a game from a console is that good. Generally you'd be better off cleaning the screen, buying a cheap connector and breaking & making the connections periodically to avoid the build-up of dirt.

    3. Re:ad for monster by AnimalSnf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think the author of the article, Alan Dang, misspelled his name. It seems Dung fits him much better since it's also the quality of his article. Couple of points:

      (1) Not a SINGLE comparison is between the same kind of cable. Every single comparison is between the regular RCA and Monster S-Video cable. What's next, comparing an optical cable with RCA?

      (2) The article is completely devoid of any facts other than some really slowly loading screenshots.

      (3) You need a monster cable like you need a lobotomy. Not only do many other cables found in big chain stores are just as good, remember this if you are actually considering buying one: That $20 cable costs about $2 to make, which might explain why other cables sell for so much less.

    4. Re:ad for monster by Boone^ · · Score: 3, Interesting

      There's a guy here who's incredibly proud of the fact that he's "had to" spend $150 on cables to connect his bp2002 fronts. He claims that with cheap $75 cables he wouldn't be getting the same sound quality and he'd be wasting his speakers.

      Nothing irks me more than people who believe that the money:quality ratio is constant. It just isn't always the case... for instance, based on pure horsepower, I'd take my $700 AMD box over a $1500 Mac.

    5. Re:ad for monster by _|()|\| · · Score: 3, Informative
      Notice he didn't compare the Monster Game S-Video with the $6 Wal-Mart S-Video.

      Actually, if you made it to page six, the article does just that. I couldn't see a difference, except in the zoomed-in screenshot.

    6. Re:ad for monster by dododge · · Score: 3, Interesting
      There's a guy here who's incredibly proud of the fact that he's "had to" spend $150 on cables to connect his bp2002 fronts. He claims that with cheap $75 cables he wouldn't be getting the same sound quality and he'd be wasting his speakers.

      Bah, $150 is chump change. If he just wants some expensive cables, he can get a pair of Opus MM speaker cables for around $23K. And don't forget the $1000 power cables for each component. Not to mention high-end power outlets and/or regenerators. You mean your outlets use steel screws to connect to house wiring instead of brass? Ha! They're useless! :-)

      And this isn't even close to being the absurd stuff. This guy sells a pen that he claims will improve the sound quality of CDs by writing affirmative messages on their jacket covers. I have seen audiophile discussion boards where making fun of such products will get you flamed; "how can you say it doesn't work if you haven't tried it"?

      Nothing irks me more than people who believe that the money:quality ratio is constant.

      I generally just build my own cables these days. For example I've found Belden 8281 (a 75ohm coax normally used to wire broadcast studios) for as little as $0.10/foot from folks who just want to get excess spools out of their warehouse. The tools and terminators easily end up being more expensive than the cable itself. I've also tried a few more exotic things like DIY braided power cords, which did reduce a ground loop I was having at the time but are mostly just a fun project even if they don't make a noticable improvement.

  4. In other news by back_pages · · Score: 5, Funny
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    And finally:

    Screws: Righty-tighty or do they work better if you use hammers?

  5. How about this guide? by wumarkus420 · · Score: 3, Funny

    How about a guide on how to improve your webserver's traffic-handling capabilities.

  6. What you really need to do by ilsie · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you want to get your TV perfectly calibrated, hire a professional. Second best thing to do is pick up Avia's Video Essentials. I would definitely take this "guide" with a grain of salt. They gloss over one of the most important issues of video calibration, which is that you have to calibrate it with the amount of ambient light that would normally be present with normal usage.

    Also, they could HEAR the difference between two different TOSLINK cables? Gimme a break. Sounds like a sponsored ad for Monster cable, whom audiophiles know is a rip-off anyways.

  7. New guide? by Flakeloaf · · Score: 3, Funny

    Laugh all you want, I enhanced the display on my GBA using the undocumented brightness knob and now I can see *erverything*.

    Um... what's that fizzing noise?

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  8. X-Box hint - buy the S-video adapter by mbourgon · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not sure which one to buy, but apparently (and according to everyone in the office who bought it - damn my television's 1 S-Video!) the difference between RCA and S-Video is nothing short of stunning. Not sure if the monster cable is worth however much extra they get over the Microsoft (or generic) kit, but if you have the ability, get the S-Video cable.

    Now if it only helped the gameplay...

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  9. Comprehensive? by tubs · · Score: 3, Funny
    posted a comprehensive guide on how to improve your console's image quality.

    Dear Sirs,

    I cannot find any information on your site about my "Scart" connection, which is the only other input my TV has - surely such a basic connection should have been covered in your "Comprehesive" guide to improving image quality.

    Yours Faithfully

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  10. Sharper image looks worse by papasui · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I like a little bit of a less than perfect image on my tv because it gives it a little bit of an antialiased look smoothing out some of the blocky edges that you get when you tweak everything. Sure a nice sharp image is great for 2D stuff but just the little bit of blur looks nice for 3D.

  11. Useless article by a3d0a3m · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ok, here's what the article says in 1 paragraph as opposed to their >5 pages. Use A/V cables over RF, use S-Video over A/V, and use Component over S-Video. Also buy a monster cable if you can justify the expense to your wife/parents. Then, turn down the contrast and sharpness on your TV and PS2 because they do nothing to add to the image. The end. Was any of this a no-brainer to you? It all was for me.

  12. PS2 Beats XBox Again! by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 5, Funny
    the prolific PlayStation2

    ...And here with my XBox churning out two novels and an ice sculpture a year, I thought It was prolific!

    Damn M$, And thanks, SlashDot, for setting me straight yet again!

  13. Slashdotted already? by UserChrisCanter4 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I can't even get to the article, but it seems pretty simple.

    Don't use the composite video cables that came with your system. All kinds of TVs from 19" on up now ship with S-Video and even Component inputs (JVC ships a 20", 25", and 27" TV with component-in), so if you're anywhere near being in the market for a TV, there's no reason why you shouldn't be getting one with those inputs. $25 gets you the Sony-brand component cables, ditto for Nintendo (although you have to order them off of Nintendo's website). XBox component cables have been a little cheaper, $20 at most places, but the cables themselves look kind of cheap.

    While the difference between S-Video and Component isn't quite as pronounced (I mostly only see the difference in the colors, not in the fidelity of the picture), the difference between composite and either of the upper-tier inputs is enormously pronounced. On larger televisions in particular (32" and up), you can see very pronounced scan lines and blurriness of the image when using composite cables. The Nintendo Gamecube can give you a great demonstration fo this fact. The back of the unit has the standard video-out and then the "digital-out" port where the component video hooks in. You have to have both jacks connected and active, since the video is only fed on the component port, and the analog audio is still fed along with the composite video. Hook up both signals, turn on a game, and just flip back and forth between component and composite. You'll see what I mean.

  14. Some missing points by MetalHead666 · · Score: 4, Informative
    This was a fairly good guide, but not as comprehensive as one could wish.

    As one reader noted it would have been interesting if they actually wrote about something other than cables, eg how to set up your TV/HDTV/projector to make things look as good as possible, how VGA-boxes compare and so forth. And as far as I am concerned, Monster Cable are not by far the only manufacturer of high-end cables. Interact make some good stuff too, and about a million Hong Kong-manufacturers have different budget variants that will improve your results, if not by as much.

    More specifically, a note that while MC do produce S-Video cables for all recent consoles, the PAL GameCubes do not support this kind of output, and thus a little test of RGB-Scarts wouldn't have been such a bad idea, eh? Especially considering that more people have Scart/Euro-connectors than S-video on their TVs, and that an RGB-Scart is easily on par with S-video output.

    Since most people also only have one "good" Scart input on their TV set, a little write-up on different Scart-splitters and how they affect the quality would have been nice too.

    Well, well, just a few thoughts. I guess we'll have to test these things ourselves, seeing as they who wrote the article are sponsored by MC and not interested in alternatives, which the consumer always is...

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  15. my experience with a ps2 vga adaptor by Sarin · · Score: 4, Informative

    I had a spare 21" monitor here, so I thought it would be nice to buy a vga adaptor for my playstation 2.
    It's definately not worth the money:

    -some games were black/white, it had something to do with the pal/ntsc switching of the console.
    -the games that were displayed in color were in some sort of scanlined resolution on the monitor with a very low refresh-rate.
    -there was no way to tweak the settings.

    A couple months later I bought a better scart adaptor for my television set, which made the image a lot clearer and I gave the monitor to my little brother.

  16. Nifty S-Video trick by droopus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Ok, we know S-Video is better: I use it from the HP P3 500 (movie box) I have behind my big screen to the TV's S-Video input.

    But buy S-Video cables? Hey they are 'spensive. But there's a great substitute, and you probably have one in your basement right now.

    Old-style Mac ADB (printer/modem) cables are perfect as S-Video cables: same pin arrangement. (Sound of 5,000 /.'ers running for the box o' old cables in the basement)

    Funny that in my house, a PC is connected to a Toshiba projection screen via an old Mac cable. B) Yep, Apple just keeps on giving.

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  17. Re:buy the PC version of the game by Godeke · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Have to agree with you there - if you are concerned about "image quality", console gaming isn't probably where you want to be in the first place. The games are hard wired for an resolution that was last popular in gaming during the 486-early pentium era, and when you buy a modern PC with a modern video card (said video card costing 150% of an entire console, admittedly) you can have "image quality" that console gamers don't even *know they could* dream about.

    (That said, I still play console games because they aren't in my home office, making it *appear* I'm not at the same computer activity I was at for the previous 12 hours working... obsessive compulsiveness I guess.)

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  18. Rabbit Ears by sharkey · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What about those of us with rabbit ears and bow-tie connected to the two screws? I ain't runnin' out to get a fancy new TV just to get an "rf connector", when my TV still works!

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  19. Cable hype by dswan69 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    From the article:
    Designing speaker and video cable takes a lot of science

    This certainly isn't true when it comes to speaker cable - the audio cable industry would impress even PT Barnum, I'm sure he didn't realise just what suckers people are.

    And note the distinct lack of any actual scientific testing of the cable and no comparison amongst S-Video cables. You'll see the same thing in audiophile magazines in their so-called cable reviews. If we're going to use subjective tests then I can say that the picture I get with my cheap S-video cable looks just like the one they're getting with the Monster Cable.

    Reality is that any decent quality cable will give you the same results as a cable that costs thousands of dollars. And when it comes to speaker cable decent grade lamp flex will equal any cable out there unless you happen to have your speakers at least 50m from your amp (differences are only really even significantly measurable at around 100m and up).

  20. Composite CGA by RatBastard · · Score: 3, Interesting

    About the cheapest image upgrade you can do, if you don't mind a small image, is almost any composite CGA monitor. The image quality is much higher than almost any non-HDTV TV set.

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  21. You're wrong about the cables... by fireboy1919 · · Score: 5, Informative

    And any true audiophile who has done a blind test (switching the cables on their system using EXACTLY the same speakers/reciever/amps) will tell you that cables aren't important and that the rest of the audiophiles have been fed a line.

    Any such audiophile who does research on the physics of cables will come up with the knowledge that the very, very, slight benefits of higher end cables can only be achieved at lengths of greater than about HALF A MILE.

    You can argue this 'till you're blue in the face, of course, but I suggest that instead you use the scientific method: hook your cheap cables and your good cables up to a switch so that all the other equipment is the same. See if it makes any difference whatsoever.

    I have a friend with a LOT of monster cable who became a bit depressed after this test, because he owned a LOT of Monster cable. He could have spent the money on even more expensive speakers to actually improve his sound.

    Qualifier: there is a difference between shielded and unshielded, twisted pair, and straight. However, there is very little difference between Radio Shack 16 gauge shielded, twisted pair and Monster 16 gauge shielded, twisted pair.

    My qualifications: I've been a sound technician for 9 years now, and a musician for 17 years. I can play four instruments, have a vocal range of three octaves. I have worked VERY hard to have a critical ear over this time period, and I think I do.

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    1. Re:You're wrong about the cables... by fireboy1919 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Transducers aren't really everything. Of course, in the case of ear-bud headphones they are, but usually you've got at least mixer, an amp, a power supply, and a variety of filters (including a microphone) between yourself and the sound source.

      Any and all of these WILL add noise to the signal, and they will all almost always cause slight nonlinear filtering effects. So buying more expensive versions of these things are justified, as the more expensive versions can take care of these problems. Cables, however, are just plain linear resistors; they don't really do much to the sound at all - at least not at first.

      As far as the half a mile thing, like I said, the effect is supposed to be very, very slight. Apparently there's a latency issue with low frequencies that can cause some phase shift. This effect is supposedly discernable at no less than half a mile.

      Fortunately for sound, phase is not really important - or rather, the only important thing is that everything is in phase. There are now digital devices that can realign the phase after a very long signal transfer.

      Note that this effect (phase shifting) will have the following results:
      1) Everything will sound a little quieter than it would have otherwise
      2) Instruments with very different ranges (such as Piccolo and Tuba) will not blend as well.

      Note that phasing is a common side-effect from nearly every sound system component.

      Phase effects are also canceled by reflection - that is, when they hit a wall and bounce off, or something like that. Also, if you've got enough sound sources, the amount of phasing due to this effect should be miniscule compared to the natural amount. Don't bother with worrying about this if you are using it to listen to rock music. You won't know the difference.

      Now I'm STILL not sure I buy the fact that cables produce nonlinear phase-shifting, but it does seem possible. Like most people, however, I run a max of about 100' of cable to my speakers, so I don't EVER have to worry about those effects (and I don't get to check and see if the cable people are lying about that, too).

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  22. Re:You can hear the difference in Audio Cables. by shepd · · Score: 3, Informative

    >We did a blindfold test. I could hear the difference in microphone cables. Line level cables are harder but at least 80% of the class still got it.

    EE says that's highly unlikely, unless you were comparing something like balanced vs. unbalanced cables. I really, really, really doubt that a reasonbly cheap Mic cable (not the absolute bottom barrel) and an expensive Mic cable have anything different other than durability (I think a 2-input summing/inverting Oscilloscope could show there's no difference). But, in the home stereo world, you don't get balanced, so you need to stick with decent quality cables.

    If you're really worried, use RG-6 satellite cable for home stereo stuff. Cheap, easy to get ahold of, and if the quality is good enough to carry 1 GHz 100 ft., 20 kHz is not going to be a problem.

    >Furthermore you can hear the difference between minidisc and CD and MP3.

    Go here and read it. 320 kbps MP3 (which is similar to MD for recording time) is better, bar none, when coupled with a decent encoder and decoder. It actually picks up more of the (admittedly useless) frequencies that the MD doesn't.

    >Furthermore you can hear the difference between a 2 million dollar Sony Oxford and a Behringer and an SSL.

    Can't fault you there. But most people don't have a 2 million dollar budget.

    >If you could not tell a difference professional studios would just use shit cables.

    No they wouldn't. In a professional studio, cables get stepped on, ends crushed, and they get yanked out of the sockets by the cable. They need the durability that a good cable brings. Not to mention that you're looking at 100ft.+ runs -- you don't want a cable with high resistance. They don't need a cable that goes flaky the fist time the audio engineer rolls his chair over it.

    >There is a difference its just that for some electrical applications the difference is less.

    Seriously, electrical applications (by which I'll assume all electronic applications) often work in the Ghz range. Even a $100/ft. Balanced XLR cord won't handle that, nosiree.

    But audio frequencies aren't even within a factor of 100 of that.

    >Use good cables for speakers

    Use 16 or (if you can find it and have high-current speakers/stereos) 14 AWG lamp cord for speakers. Nice and flexible, and unless you run it parallel with your fluorescent light ballasts/power cables, very clean sound.

    >Use pretty good cables for line level signals and you should be ok.

    Of any signals, line level reqiures the best cables. We're talking less than 1V signal level in some applications. Thin, crappy cable will not do.

    Just my 2 cents.

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  23. Tron by interstellar_donkey · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I was pleasently surprise to discover one of the bonus features on the Tron DVD was a pretty comprehensive utility that you can run through to improve the image quality on your TV.

    From what I understand, a good portion of poor image quality has to do with improper television settings. After I ran through that utility, the picture quality on my TV was dramatically improved.

    I wonder why more DVDs don't do this, or even video game consols. It just seems like such a good idea to improve the quality of the experience.

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  24. This is what I use: by Alex+Belits · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My setup that I have made a year ago, is relatively cheap (the only non-computer expensive component is Proxima Ovation, an old LCD projection panel) and nice enough to displace a TV from my living room. Original version used composite video from PS2 to the TV capture board instead of S-Video, and image quality was pretty terrible. VCR's tuner happened to be better than one built into the capture board, and I didn't care much for improving audio quality beyond a reasonable level, so audio goes through rather cheap components.

    LCD panel, projector and PC produce more noise than what I would prefer, and adjusting image on a projector was a pain in the neck (Proxima's bit depth sucks), but in the end image quality ended up being far superior to a TV. I have found out that in this configuration xawtv works better with Xv disabled, and many games look terrible if blown to a full 1024x768 screen, so I keep them at the NTSC resolution. DVDs are played with Ogle on a computer.

    Proxima Ovation has S-Video and composite inputs, however the scaling algorithm that it uses for them, is absolutely horrible.

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