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Aqua OpenOffice for Mac OS X
rhetland writes "An article on O'Reilly network discusses the new port of OpenOffice to Mac OS X. The public beta, due out next week, will be posted on the OpenOffice Mac site. I have been waiting for this for months, and can hardly wait."
Now I can hopefully migrate the last of out machines from any microisoft code. $ months ago we got the go ahead for open source (after a 2 year battle) and now this!
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That's probably OmniWeb, by the Omni Group.
today is spelling optional day.
This is great news, but consider what this really means. What we really want & need, a fully native version, is still someway off. The subtext is the more people who can help the faster and better off we will be.
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No more Microshaft stuff on my beautiful OS X!!!! I can't wait to use the beta, just wish I could do more than just beta test, but you do what you can, I hope all OS X programmers help out this project where they can!
i followed the link.....it's not omniweb.....very strange....ive never seen that before either
A computer without a Microsoft operating system is like a dog without bricks tied to its head
With an Aqua version of Open Office soon available, and Open Office shipping as default install on Red Hat 8.0, are we seeing a dominant #2 player in the Office Suite market?
I only came here to do two things; kick some ass, and drink some beer...looks like we're almost out of beer.
It is Omniweb, thats what their icon looked like before the most recent 2 (?) updates to it.
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Actually, it is the icon for the 4.1 beta versions of OmniWeb. I was kind of disappointed when they changed it to the current blue/green globe, rather than the more Aqua looking globe seen in the screenshot. But both are vast improvements over the pre-4.1 icon.
Only Mac users would argue about icons. ;-)
It _is_ omniweb, however the screendump is not this new release. See http://www.neooffice.org/ for more details.
Lots of people would say that having three different suites is a bad thing, but I don't think so anymore:
My father is a blogger.
X11 is going beta next week, not aqua. the aqua version is still in the planning stages.
i stand corrected.....i just realized i havent updated omniweb in a while :-O
A computer without a Microsoft operating system is like a dog without bricks tied to its head
This is still the X11 version. Sure, it'll be nice to try it, but it won't have Mac look and feel, and certainly won't obey the Human Interface Guidelines yet. It seems that the Aqua demo was of NeoOffice, which is just a proof of concept for developers, not a real distribution.
Looks like there's a lot more work to be done...
Oh wait, what other competing companies are left?
The link above should be http://www.neooffice.org.
Yes, you're right; the attractive aqua globe was the OmniWeb icon though the entire 4.1 beta/sneaky peak period, and The Omni Group then changed it to the blue-green globe on the release of the 4.1 final.
But why? I have yet to hear anyway say the preferred the blue-green icon to the aqua one.
Well, apparently the reason they changed the icon is due to Apple. Apple asked for the change, because they felt the icon was too similar to the iTools icon. Now personally, I think that was a bit heavy-handed on Apple's part. Besides, most people never see the the iTools/.Mac icon now, since it started to cost money...
Although I have open office for OS X in X11. It makes it a real hassle to run. I usually end up running Appleworks except for open office. Although I would prefer to use Open Office then Apple Works but it takes a while for XDarwin to start up which in most cases gets in the way. And the fact the interface is differnt from the rest of the application on the Mac so it effect my productivity because I have to adjust my way of thinking to switch to apps.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Omniweb is great, but I can see Apple's point, they don't want third parties making stuff that people mistake for Apple software.
Are you sure it was such a kickass licensing deal, or did your school get blackmailed by MS and as a student you now how to spend a large portion of your student technology fees on these products.
If its anything like my school, MS blackmailed the school out of Five Million Dollars a year that would have gone to upgrading computer labs and paying technology consultants fair and equitable raises, forcing a maximium numb of non-Windows Servers on campus as well as placing a cap on the funny hardware systems faculty might buy such as Macs.
Don't kid yourself, MS came to your school and threatened to sue it for piracy and otherwise if it didn't agree to the terms as it has with all the other schools.
But but but ... it's inaccurate! The landmasses aren't all green! Where are the deserts, the mountains, the clouds, the subtle silhouette of the atmosphere??? (see http://www.solstation.com/stars/earth.jpg) I liked the abstract Aqua one better, though I realize Apple is mercilessly aggressive about its intellectual property.
OK, I'm a Mac (l)user.
Having digressed to browsers, I hope everyone has tried the very nice free beer/speech Chimera for OS X.
hmm...interesting subtext: openoffice.org is released under the LGPL and SISSL which allow for closed source extensions to the source base and commercialization. According to the next to last NeoOffice FAQ entry the prototype is under the full GPL license and Sun employees know they can't use its source code directly.
Is this the first salvo in a free source vs. open source war?
Omniweb Icon
Omniweb Replacement
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Actually, it was my understanding that the previous OmniWeb icon looked too much like the icon for the 'Internet' pane under System Preferences, not the 'Network' icon. And, comparing them, they do look pretty similar, especially at the small size at which the 'Internet' icon is usually viewed in the System Preferences window. Too bad, though: I really preferred the old OmniWeb icon to the current blue-and-green one.
This case doesn't seem to be the classic one of Apple getting tough on third parties over UI issues. I could be wrong, but it looks like Apple simply asked the Omni Group to change their icon, and the Omni people granted their request. It would make sense that these two companies would want to remain on good terms, as the Omni Group, as far as I'm concerned, is setting the standards for how OS X applications should look and behave--in some cases, even more so than Apple is.
And how could you not love a software company who states that their mission is to "make software that is useful and fun?"
I have Open Office 1.0 running on my OS X machine, but it is so buggy that it is unusable. I hope the new version works better. An aqua version would be awesome; I don't mind running XF86 in rootless mode, but an aqua version would make the whole experience more seamless.
.doc format anyway. it is such a piece of crap and there are major privacy issues with it...don't beleive me? open up a .doc with BBEdit or something...
for now, I use TextEdit which comes with OS X. It is very stable and usable, though not too good at advanced formatting. And why of why does everybody have to use
IMHO, Apple knows what they are talking about when it comes designing an interface, so the HIG seem to be a great resource for anyone to use.So, any of you programmers for windows and *nix pay any attention to them?
A lot of people talk about trying to get linux on the desktop and how to do it...call me crazy but perhaps if developers kept the HIG in mind it would push things forward quite a bit as far as linux usability goes...
note: I am not saying the HIG must be followed to the letter but it seems like it would be a great starting point for developers of any GUI based software...
Any thoughts on this? Can the HIG be a valuable resource for anyone?
"Empathise with stupidity, and you're halfway to thinking like an idiot." - Iain M. Banks
We have the same deal at the University of Cincinnati. Techically, the apps are free - the 5 bucks covers the cost of distributing the media, so I can legally copy my friend's office x disc if I am too lazy to walk to the bookstore and get it. It's microsoft though, so I feel a little dirty participating in this deal. Maybe I'll try openoffice and then be rid of all my microsoft software.
We also have a similar site license agreement with Adobe, but somebody (either Adobe or the university) decided to be a jackass and extended it to everybody EXCEPT students. So the people who can least afford it because they are busy paying the tuition that partly pays for the license agreement have to pay full price. Nice.
Yes it is way cheap, but you have some really wonderful clauses in the licensing:
At least the license converts to a permanent license if you graduate (your parting gift!).
I've been using Open Office for a while now and it's great. Not quite as polished as commercial apps but certainly nothing to laugh at.
The only problem I've experienced so far is that after a certain size (haven't quite narrowed it down yet) Open Office refuses to open a file. This isn't any wierd file, just a simple plaintext file, yet for some reason Open Office won't open it. It opens fine under other programs, but not OO. Has anyone else come across this problem or does anyone know how to fix it?
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Note that the beta release is for Darwin, which means you need an X server running on OS X to use it. This really isn't worth much to OS X users until the Aqua part comes along.
* As is generally the case, my opinions do not reflect those of my employer.