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What Would You Do With a New Form of Encryption?
Kip Knight asks: "I've been sitting on an invention for six months now. I'm debating whether to 'give it to the world' or patent it. I would obviously like to feed my family on the fruits of my endeavour but don't see much hope in the open source route. My invention improves upon the 80 year old One-Time Pad encryption turning it into a 'Many-Time Pad'. Since I haven't got my export license to speak about the details yet, I won't describe further. The advantages are proof (i.e. unbreakable) against brute force attacks and known-plaintext attacks (unlike the OTP). The disadvantage is carrying around a very large digital key (which could easily fit on one of those USB memory key fobs). My question is this: Could I sell enough $10 shareware GPG extensions to compensate for not locking in 20 years of patent protection (and the $20,000 to patent it)?" While the claims made by the submittor have yet to withstand the crucial test of time (and prying eyes), if you had developed a new form of encryption, what would you do?
then encrypt the patent.
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I've been sitting on an invention for six months now.
Butt is a prior art, iirc.
Don't do anything to make it public. Just keep it for your own personal use.
That would be the best encryption you can have. The one only you know about.
First, I wouldn't "Ask Slashdot"
(sound of pitter-pattering many greedy feet scurrying to the nearest PTO)
Second:
1. Patent new encryption algorithm.
2. Sell to highest bidder.
3. ???
4. Profit.
Ah well, you could always be more philanthrophic than me, and support FSF, but hell, I'm just a capitalist at heart.
I think you should trade this patent for some stock in VA Systems! How could that fail to make you wealthy?!
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I'm sorry, everything that hasn't been invented yet has already been patented last decade. Never underestimate an infinite number of lawyers on an infinite number of typewriters submitting claims to the US Patent Office.
The first thing I would do is change my ISP/e-mail address.. no one is going to believe you with your current AOL one.
Does it bother anyone else that the creator of the encryption scheme that will save the world uses AOL? (check his email addy...)
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But how did you get the monkeys to wear the pants?
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How dare you insult my mother like that!
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Never underestimate an infinite number of lawyers on an infinite number of typewriters submitting claims to the US Patent Office.
What, they ran out of monkeys and had to go lower on the evolutionary ladder?
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My invention improves upon the 80 year old One-Time Pad...turning it into a 'Many-Time Pad'.
You idiots! They are talking about a new reusable maxi-pad for the elderly, not encyption! Cripes RTFP!
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A commercial? What a gip!
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Then the out-of-work perl programmers would get jobs again!
Where does the vegetarian pirana fit in to the algorithm?
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Create a little tune and lyrically read your patent submission, any source code, and detailed description of your technology. Then the MPAA's actions will cover you. ROT-13 it and the DMCA will also cover you especially if you also distribute decoder rings with your developer's package (pricing and availability not specified at press time)
Mail it to himself? Why bother? All he's gotta do is encrypt it using his method then post it in a whole bunch of Usenet newsgroups. If his method is really as good as he says it is...
I'm reasonably sure that he has just described a one time pad. For a second I wasn't sure what he meant, since that happens to be the only unbreakable crypto possible, but then I got it.
He didn't say 'incredibly weak.'
Rather, he said 'incredibly week.'
How can something be week (a calendar unit) rather than a week? While sometimes nouns are used as adverbs, extending the meaning. The most likely meaning for the adverb week, would be: having to do with a week, or weeks. And since our names for the week-days come from ancient gods, he was probably likening the one time pad to the unbeatable thunder god Thor.
Thor, of course, would be totally unbreakable.
For someone to see all this instantly--and then call it obvious--means that he is on a level of genius that our puny mathematical brains cannot possibly understand--nor should we try to.
(Mathematics is simply the art of finding equivalent statements. Psycho-analyze all the word problems and you're guareenteed at least D--so build from there.)
... name the algorithm threefish, then sell the patent and name to Microsoft, then watch Counterpane sue them and then read Bruce add another reason to hate Microsoft security on Crypto-Gram, like he does every other issue.
20 gigs on the Usenet is too much? Apparently you've never been to any newsgroup with the words "binaries" and "DVD" in them.
I'm not going to jail for you, or you, or anybody!
...Now all we need to do is combine this Infinate One Time Pad idea with the Infinate Compression Algoritm and well have an Infinate amount of Libraries Of Congress stored securly in only obe bit!
Wow!
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They had to bring in the lawyers after they noticed that the monkeys were negligently avoiding possible money-makers since "even an untrained monkey" could see that the patent was sensless and without merit.
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Encrypt it and post it to the internet. You'll know if you did a good job when nobody can break it. :-)
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All I got from that was: "You're gonna shoot your eye out".
*shrugs*
In case anyone is scratching their head at this...
Where does the school board find them and why do they keep sending them to ME?
"My invention improves upon the 80 year old One-Time Pad encryption turning it into a 'Many-Time Pad'."
I take a one time pad...use it to set 3 no 4 wheels each with 26 letters on them. then have 2 additional wheels to interchange. I have a plugboard on the back to further complicate things. It reuses one time phrase but alters after each use to defeat all known cryptanalysis. thus many-time pad from initial one time pad.
*checks patent*
seems some german guys are using this....
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I would do exactly the same. I'd ask Slashdot!
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With OTP the size of the key and message are identical, and has been proven unconditionally secure. It has also been proven that no encryption with more bits of message than key can ever be unconditionally secure.
Even simpler than using an OTP, just distribute your message using whatever secure means you used to distribute your OTP. Patent office, here I come!
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How dare you insult my mother like that!
heh... its like a nerdy rorschach inkblot.
The same thing I do every day. Try and take over the world.