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Sklyarov Denied Visa to Return to U.S. for Trial
Kurt Foss writes "Visa applications for Alexander Katalov and Dmitry Sklyarov of ElcomSoft were recently denied by the American Embassy in Moscow, jeopardizing their return to the U.S. in time for
the company to face criminal charges for allegedly violating
the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) last year. The
already rescheduled trial is presently set to begin in the
U.S. District Court of Northern California on October 21."
The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. Reminds me of the IRS. :-)
Someone put a black hole in my pocket and now I'm broke.
In Russia they tell jokes about the insane bureaucracy in America.
"I think all foreigners should stop interfering in the internal affairs of Iraq"
-- Paul Wolfowitz, 7/21/2003
Let me guess, they can't can't get a Visa to enter the country for their trial, because they are charged with crimes in the US?
The Department of Justice demands their presence in the U.S., but the Department of State denies it. Neither organization is accountable to the other. It's not like the DoJ can say 'well they didn't show up, it's their fault...'
This is too amusing to NOT be picked up by the media again. I don't think it will result in protests so much as the DoJ and DoS being the butt of jokes for a few weeks, but still.
I am a science fantasy fan
The insane bureaucracy tells jokes about YOU!
Sounds like it's time for a new campaign...
Or maybe we can start a campaign to bring Dmitry here "virtually" via web-conferencing or something... he deserves the right to defend himself!
..On the other hand, maybe we should ask him first... maybe he's happy to have a legitimate excuse not to come...
When he wants out of America they detain him. When he wants back into America they refuse him. If he was smart he'd send them a note pleading with them to find him guilty.
The CIA killed her and framed him for it because of the research he was doing into Psychic Warfare and Mind Control. Wake up, you cad!
I don't know about America, they do to Canada but here we call it "immigration". ;-)
[Right Hand] Hey Lefty!
[Left Hand] Yeah?
[Right Hand] What'cha doin'?
[Left Hand] ......
[Right Hand] Well?
[Left Hand] Well, what?
[Right Hand] What are you doing?
[Left Hand] I do not know such information. Nor could I pass along said information if I did know such information.
Chas - The one, the only.
THANK GOD!!!
He did die in the attack. But that didn't stop the INS, powerful bureaucrats that they are...
Hi-
Exactly! They sent him his visa in the mail well after he was already dead. (months, IIRC) How hard is it for the INS to realize that he was one of the hijackers?
--Quentin
Maybe if they broke the DMCA again the US would let them in?
-- I have monkeys in my pants.
Mod this guy up. Boy George has decided its ok to have your cake and eat it too. Everyone in the world is held to US laws, EXCEPT US Law Enforcement Officials.
errr....umm...*whooosh* *whoosh* Is this thing on ?
He should sneak in from Canada and under the glare of TV lights show up in court at the appointed time. I can see the row that wouls happen in that court when the INS show up to deport him for being in the country illegally.
..when you need them.
(The nice green little postcard you fill in on entry to the US)
:-)
Are you a member or representative of a terrorist organization as currently designated by the U.S. Secretary of State? (YES) (NO)
Have you ever participated in persecutions directed by the Nazi government of Germany; or have you ever participated in genocide? (YES) (NO)
(and so on and so forth, with "Are you seeking entry to overthrow the government?" especially notable)
Actually, my favorite is not the questions themselves, but two remarks at the bottom.
"WARNING: If you answered YES to any of these questions, you may not be permitted to enter the United States." (Like, why don't they add an eighth question, "Did you lie on any of the above questions?".)
and better yet, at the bottom there is a note saying "If you find a way to make this process less cumbersome, write to The Paperwork Reduction Project..." with a two-mile-long address. Yeah, duh! I'm sure terrorists will declare themselves as terrorists at the border. What did people smoke when they invented this, anyway?
The government is stupid,
is stupid,
is stupid,
the government is stupid,
in everything they do.
That's what happens when one part of the government doesn't allow another part of itself to get its job done. And you wonder why it takes years to get a stamp on a piece of paper or something stupid like that.
How can you put the death penalty, torture and slavery in the same basket as cannibalism? C'mon man, cannibalism is just totally barbaric!
Yes, it is. With limited exceptions, the US Constitution applies to anyone under its jurisdiction, meaning that they have the right to free speech, the right to a speedy trial, the right to not have troops stationed in their homes here, etc. Gun ownership is the only one that comes to mind that may have exceptions, other than the exceptions anyone else is under (no yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater, etc).
You can never go home again... but I guess you can shop there.
And yet the US is the world only military and economic superpower and - de facto - runs the United Nations, and the World Bank. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
If you were blocking sigs, you wouldn't have to read this.