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Korea World Leader in Broadband/Technology at Home

bozoman42 writes "67% of Korean Internet users are connected to broadband, some at 32Mbps! In fact, according to the Guardian Article, Korea is leading in nearly all walks of a modern high tech life. But there may be downsides. (Especially as covered here last week.)"

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  1. Multiplayer games are HUGE in Korea. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Multiplayer games are absolutely huge in Korea, people have played themselves to death. And there are examples in real life beatings because of stuff that happens in multiplayer games.

    SIG: Don't support Redhat until they support basic democracy in the dictatorship China vs democratic Taiwan issue. It's an evil company.

  2. That would be North Korea... by ethnocidal · · Score: 2, Interesting
    As opposed to South Korea, the focus of the article.

    Or did you mean the United States' potential development of new nuclear arms in violation of a Congressional ban?

    Funny old world!

  3. Re:They lead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    South Korea is leading in nearly all walks of a modern high tech life.

    North Korea is involved in the development of nuclear weapons in violation of international treaty?

    Please read the article and your link again, as there is a big difference between the two countries.

  4. Theres a huge demand for broadband in the UK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Unfortunatley BT refuses to upgrade rural exchanges for ADSL, and people are very angry at this. The town of todmorden recently made the headlines for being the first town to reach the threshhold of being upgraded. I live in an 'unupgraded' town, but I dont really care about BT, because Im happy with my cable modem from telewest. The cable companies are more determined than BT to supply broadband, but they can only cover where their cable network goes.

    Satilite broadband is becoming popular too, but its expensive, one way and low latency.

    1. Re:Theres a huge demand for broadband in the UK by cruachan · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Satellite's now two way. I'm in the Scottish Highlands with a satellite connection courtesy of Bridge Broadband (a reseller of course, Hughes Satellite Systems underneath).

      Bandwidth is 512kbs UNCONTENDED down and 2Mbs burst contended. Only 150kbs up, but that should improve soon. It's expensive to put in, but with a pipe that size share the connection with a few neighbours and it's no more expensive than BT's ADSL offering.

      Latency is only a problem if you want to play games. Notice that because the line is uncontended I've actually got considerably more bandwidth than you get in practise from ADSL.

    2. Re:Theres a huge demand for broadband in the UK by digithed · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You are correct when you say that there is a huge demand for broadband in the UK, but the really sad thing is that what is being offered to fill the demand is already out of date. In this day and age ADSL can hardly be described as 'broadband' as it is in most cases only 512Kb/sec. The UK government is dreaming if they really believe that everyone having an ADSL connection will make the UK the most competative place in Europe for e-business. By the time they have managed to roll out ADSL to the majority of the population, most of the rest of Europe will already have installed fiber networks and consumers will have 10Mb/sec connections. Sadly, at the moment, the UK governement either doesn't have a clue or doesn't have the inclination to even start talking about fiber networks.

      I am from UK, but I live in Sweden in a town of approximately 120,000 people (small by UK standards) and I have a 10Mb/sec ethernet connection in my appartment for which I pay 300kr per month (about £25 or $30). ADSL costs the same as this in UK and in most cases is 20 times slower. Why can't UK get its act together? And before people start talking about BTs monoply causing problems please considered that Telia in Sweden also have about the same kind of monopoly position as BT in UK but this does not seem to have hindered the roll out of high speed consumer broadband in Sweden!

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      Steve Brammer
      (From UK but currently living in Västerås, Sweden)

  5. Re:But there may be downsides... by User+956 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How did you know they were talking about South Korea? I noticed this during the world cup. Since when did South Korea become Korea?

    Probably around the same time Taiwan became officially recognized as "China", by the US Government

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    The theory of relativity doesn't work right in Arkansas.
  6. Measuring the speed of light by PhysicsScholar · · Score: 1, Interesting

    After reading this article, I got to thinking about computer networks a bit in detail. Normally, we all worry more about software and more tangible things rather than the bridges that link our computers to the Internet.

    I just gave an assignment that dealt with relativistic calculations and using c, the speed of light, which is equal to 3x10^8 m/s.

    What I got very curious about was the following -- "Is there a way to measure the speed of light, precisely, with a computer network?"

    The answer, I think, is a resounding YES!

    I believe that if I can simply reflect packets of data between adjoining computers on an Ethernet (perhaps here in my lab) and measure the time it takes to complete a round trip, then my collegues and I could use a few simple electromagnetic equations to compare electrical signals in cable with visible light, thus measuring the speed of light to a very precise value!

    Who would've thought the Ping utility would be so handy!

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    Department of Physics and Atmospheric Science, Dalhousie University, Halifax, N.S., Canada, B3H 3J5
  7. I don't doubt that they watch VOD more by keyed · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Having got broadband internet, Koreans use it much more. Dr Heejin Lee, a lecturer at Brunel University, says Koreans rack up an average of 1,340 minutes per month, which compares with the UK average of 382 minutes. The high usage stems partly from it being fast enough for video on demand: people can use it to time-shift TV programmes, or catch up with episodes of soaps they have missed. Also, 54% of Koreans play online games.
    Their TV stations do VOD the right way. You can watch any show up to that they've aired for up to a week and without commercials. My mother, who lives in San Antonio, TX, and knows nothing about computers, watches these after she gets home from work. The quality of the video streaming isn't that good at times, but that probably has more to do with the fact that it's being streamed from Korea. It doesn't bother my mom too much as she watches the news and old style music shows that she liked when she left Korea 20+ years ago.
  8. Fast and impressive, but is it free? by twitter · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Are these networks free or gimped like US? Can the average Korean set up web, email, ftp, cvs services at the end of that fat pipe? If so, they will surely kick the world's ass in software development. If not, entertianment is nice but their net will be disipative.

    Here in the US, broadband "internet" is becoming more and more like cable TV. Unilaterally changeable service contracts ban useful services, ports are blocked and upload rates are artificailly reduced. It's mostly because of bad laws which alowed the regional bells to stomp fledgling DSL competition and other bad laws which essentially give cable operators exclusive franchises in huge areas. Rather than embracing the communications possibilities of wires in our homes and networks we have built, we plod along with pay per minute, voice only, long distance telephony.

    Has Korea learned from our mistakes or will they repeat them?

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    Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.

  9. Statistics like this... by Recca · · Score: 2, Interesting

    are probably why North Korea is giving strange information that seems contradictory to other policies before. They're trying to change to a more open and capitalist government. North Korea has made other announcements besides nuclear weapons. They also disclosed the abduction of Japanese during the 70's and early 80's. Information here. Anyway, back on topic, North Korea has realized that nuclear weapons do not serve any good day-to-day purpose, because unlike video games using nuclear weapons in a recreational manner is highly illegal and non-productive in a down economy.

  10. Jack Schofield??? Nooooooooo not him! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why you listen to anything that this guys says.

    If he isn't being paid by M$ he should be. Read his other articles...

    A hard sell for cuddly new XP

    The mother of all operating systems

    Sun sues Microsoft from inside a glass house

    To name a few ... I don't think you'll find a bad word said about Microsoft. Nice to know.

  11. Gosu ^^ by jedie · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Think about the fact that Korean gamer's can become official "sportsmen" with corporate sponsorship etc.

    Game finals are even brought live on TV there.

    Gaming IS a sport there, look at "starcraft" the prizes you can win in the rounaments are insane.

    But that trend is starting to rise in the west too: think of CPL for instance, it's a worldwide event with international clans fighting for the first place (internationally!) in FPS games. And some clans even have dedicated fans nowadays, some players even have groupies (I kid you not: pretty girls, who take pictures with their webcams ofthemselves in their bra's holding a paper with the name of their favourite CS player for instance).



    In a way I think that's a logical evolution in the world of sports: why would sport have something to do with only the physical? Look at chess, and snooker etc.



    I mean, dedicated gamers even behave like real life jocks: they have the whole "yeah we're so 1337" thing going and act real tough (online that is ;))

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    1. Re:Gosu ^^ by prelelat · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You know what I think it would be kind of cool to watch some FPS games and other RPG games on tv. You could even call it Unreal TV. I'm sure that some Network will come up with it here in some respect in the future. It would probably be a big thing. Host tournaments to see who gets to be on the show and then have a big game of ctf or CS with some of the best players in the world(the internet allows for anyone to play).

      I would go and watch that anyways.

      What do I know I don't even run linux anymore...

  12. Re:Why is this shocking!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    What is shocking is that the citizens of the US have brought this upon themselves by electing leaders that are obviously more beholden to big money interests than those of the people. There is no real technical reason why this would not be possible in the US today.

  13. This would never work by Nazmun · · Score: 2, Interesting

    For one thing Light isn't moving in a straight line in fiber optic cable so the speed of light is considerably slower when moving from one place to another.

    Also the ping utility would be terribly innacurate for someting like this. It would also involve delays in processing at each computer, the slightest delay would be extremely harmful for something like this.

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    Hmmm... Pie...
  14. Re:But there may be downsides... by ergo98 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's sort of a given, isn't it? Good things=South Korea. Bad things=North Korea. I'd call that a stereotype if it weren't for the fact that it's completely true.

  15. Spam spam and spam by mosschops · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I wish they'd spend as much time and money controlling the amount of spam leaving Korean networks, rather than getting more (ab)users hooked up with insanely fast connections.

    I still use Spamcop to report most spam I get, but it's hard to know whether it actually does any good for mail originating in the Far East. Do they not have any responsibility to their peering networks?

  16. Re:This is offtopic (sorta) but interesting! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    It has more to do with stupid dictatorship than with communism. In my country (USSR) the energy supplies, the quality of life, life expectancy, literacy and all other measures of civilization were WAY higher during the commie rule than they are now. I'd give capitalism another 5 or 6 years in Russia. If it won't bring in some dramatic improvement in the ways people live (I can't see it happening) there will be a landslide return of communists to the power and a fast nationalization of all private property without any compensation. Then we will have reliable enegy supplies, good public transit, ambitious space program, low infant mortality, high literacy, world-class education, broadband in every household and true democracy under the scarlet banner with hammer and sicle.

  17. Re:Interesting to Note... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    What is the work situation there? What chances does a farang have of getting a job (specialized IT skills, speaks only english)

  18. Re:Weird world of Korea by ergo98 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    For a historical example, just take a peek at East and West Germany, or virtually all of the Eastern Bloc countries, and the reunification thereof. While there was much doom and gloom about the trouble that would result, it looks like they did a pretty good job, and much of Eastern Germany got pulled up by its bootstraps to a similar level that West Germany had enjoyed.

  19. Re:This is offtopic (sorta) but interesting! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    According to this, it is from composite photographs:

    http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap001127.html

  20. Re:Korea sounds more sensational than Japan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yeah I just thought I'd post and add to this. I've lived in Korea for the last 5 years.
    Yeah Japan had 3G phones first. I don't think broadband is quite as pervasive in Japan, but I don't have any hard statistics. And yeah the population density has a lot to do with the ease of implementation. But it's still damn fast. I usually snicker at my friends back in Canada when they tell me about their ADSL services.

    You can run web,ftp, etc etc services from your home end.

    The spam is a big problem, the government is trying to figure out solutions to it. Though it's the government, so don't expect a speedy (or logical) response to the problem.

    I didn't bother creating an account, cause man I'm dumber than a post and rarely even read the forums here.

  21. Shows effects of US intervention too.... by Brian_Ellenberger · · Score: 4, Interesting

    And if it weren't for the *EVIL* United States, there would be a single Korea and it would be one massive hellhole instead of half hellhole and half really nice place to live.

    Right now the US has tens of thousands of troops right now helping the South Koreans hold of a million man North Korean army. With the news that North Korea has broken the treaty that gave them economic aid in exchange for giving up nukes, it should be increasingly obvious that the current US foreign policy that is heavy in, ahem, consequences, is not so naive after all. What is naive is the idea that you can solve all your problems with mean people by just talking nice to them.

    I wonder how if South Vietnam would be doing as well as South Korea of the US had succeeded in defending it.

    Brian Ellenberger

  22. Hmm, which statistic is correct? by 5lash · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Ok there's a big difference between "Some 67% of Korean households now have broadband" (As said in the article), and "67% of Korean Internet users are connected to broadband" (As said in the /. post). Anyone know which is correct? I heinously doubt that 67% of Koreans have broadband, its more likely 67% of internet users.

  23. Re:(OT) Re:But there may be downsides... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    US didn't finish any WWII by dropping nukes. It finished its war with the Japanese Empire. It's not like the Germans and Japanese were close allies or anything, not like, say, Austria or Italy. BTW, Japan did not officially surrender unconditionally, just accepted the terms of the Potsdam Agreement. The reason for this was that Japanese military officials believed they could have kept fighting and won the war.

    Germany surrendered May 8. Japan surrenders Aug 15, 6 days after Nagasaki and a week after Russia declares war on Japan (which it was obliged to do following Yalta in Fenruary). Japanese did not fully surrender until Sept 16, when Hong Kong fell. The Potsdam Conference begun after the surrender of Germany on July 16 (and after succesful test of the nuke), and Japan did not participate.

    A good description of the surrender of Japan is here: http://www.ww2pacific.com/surrender.html