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Canadian Bill C-234 to Require ISP licensing

Matthew Skala writes "In Monday's House of Commons proceedings, Canadian Member of Parliament Peter Stoffer (NDP member for Sackville-Musquodoboit Valley-Eastern Shore) introduced Bill C-234, an anti-child-pornography Bill. It requires all Internet Service Providers to get licenses from the Government, specifically including non-profits and individuals. Licensed ISPs then must block Web sites named by the Government as containing child pornography, and must "report information [of the Government's choice] to the Commission for the purposes of this Act" - a requirement that neatly slips in spy-on-your-users requirements under the radar of the ongoing Industry Canada consultation on "Lawful Access" (wiretapping/CanCarnivore)."

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  1. Private members bill by Tabercil · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's going to be difficult for non-Canadians to understand what's going on here...

    The NDP (of which Peter Stoffer is a member) is largely a rump party (holding only 13 seats of 301). So the amount of influence it has in Canadian politics at the moment is minimal beyond criticism.

    Since the NDP does not hold power, this means that Mr Stoffer's bill is a private members bill. These very rarely become law. Often what happens is these bills go into commitees and don't come out.

    I'd say the chances of this bill getting passed are about as good as Larry Ellison & Bill Gates becoming bosum buddies.

    If you want to learn more about how the Canadian political system works, try these links:

    http://frenchcaculture.miningco.com/library/week ly /aa030902a.htm
    http://www.parlcent.ca/canada/mg.h tml

  2. Re:Child P0rn, just a foothold to kill free speach by orthogonal · · Score: 3, Interesting
    By itself licensing ISP's is not a bad idea. It is a pointless idea, but not bad.

    Pointless is bad, when:

    it costs tax money to enact and to enforce

    it costs individuals and companies money to ensure they're in compliance

    it gives lawyers something else to ligitigate about

    it takes away government resources, like police time, from legitimate problems

    Just figuring out what laws apply, and what taxes accrue, given the mammoth complexity of federal law (in any Western nation), requires anyone doing business to pay far too much to a lawyer and to an accountant.

    Pointless costs money and time without producing any individual or societal good. Pointless is bad.

  3. Government provided porn list. by grent246 · · Score: 5, Funny

    So under this bill if you want to be kept up to date with all the latest child pornography sites all you need to do is register as a canadian ISP and the government will keep you up to date with lists of sites.

  4. Re:Child P0rn, just a foothold to kill free speach by t0qer · · Score: 4, Informative

    # it costs tax money to enact and to enforce

    That is such a terrible point.

    Coming from an abusive home, I have to say I am thankful for the taxes that went to my public defender, the taxes that paid for the childrens shelter, and the taxes that paid the judges salary. Now that i'm a somewhat well adjusted adult, I pay property tax on my house, income tax, all kinds of taxes. These kids that are being exploited on the internet need someone to look out for them, cause it sure as hell doesn't sound like you will.

    Kids are human beings and our future, they're not some commodity that you can make that sort of statement on. Cattle, yes, kids no. Whoever gave you a mod point should be ashamed of themselves