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Cathy Rogers Responds Without Crashing
1) Time...
by AmigaAvenger
On Junkyard wars it always seemed that the teams had something in running condition before the end of the time limit. Was there ever a time when a team had ABSOLUTELY nothing worth sending into competition? (Wouldn't make for much of a show though...)
Cathy:
absolutely nothing? hmmm. i think that's a question of interpretation... did you see the hydrofoils show? neither of the machines worked at all. so what did we do... repeated the challenge for the british version of the show and that time... neither of them worked again. we just won't learn. but its funny - people use to think i was just being a smart arse when i would go in and give the teams a hard time for being behind, having nothing ready etc - but really i was terrified that we wouldn't have a last part of the show and was imagining that we'd all have to do the can-can or something...
2) Why do you think Engineering is so male dominated?
by Anonymous Coward
You have said in the past that it would be good to have an all female team, but as yet, we haven't seen this.
Why do you think so few women are interested in technology?
Cathy:
oh lord i don't know. i vacillate so much on this one - sometimes i think it is all just habit and training and sometimes i think there really is some different configuration of men's and women's brains - like when i see my little niece desperately wanting to wear pink and play dollies and my nephew constantly deconstructing the alphabet / numbers etc.
but we have actually had all-female teams a couple of times now - twice on junk and in the new show full metal challenge. (in fact there is a fabulous all women team in the show next week - the flamin' aussies who are all drag-racers and are cooool) and they've done well - but they're always a real battle to find. i thought it would be easier in america, where in many ways women's position in society generally is more evolved - but i was wrong. it seems just as tough. and its odd because in other areas of science women are ahead of men. its just something about wirey stuff and digit stuff and big hammer stuff. but any tech-keen ladies reading this, please please apply! you have my ear.
3) how do you do it?
by Suppafly
A lot of people don't realize that not only do you work on all of these shows, you help conceive the initial ideas behind them. How do you do it? Did you just one day have an idea and present it to a network, or did you work from the inside to have your concepts realized? What in your past got you interested in the whole build things from junkyard parts concept?
Cathy:
i was working for an independent tv company (rdf media) when we first hatched the idea for scrapheap challenge (the british name for junkyard wars). so i was in a good position in that i was talking to people at the networks here all the time about all kinds of ideas. and that was just one that hit home. the idea actually first came from the movie apollo 13 and being transfixed by the 'houston we have a problem' part. that scene in which all the very non-typical-hero boys at ground control had to figure out how to save the astronauts lives with nothing but a bit of knicker elastic and a plastic knife. it was that that got us thinking - making life-saving stuff out of rubbish - brilliant, and making the people who aren't normally heroes (i call them the grubby fingernail brigade) into heroes - fantastic. the junkyard and all the rest kind of followed from there. don't know quite how i have managed to end up doing so many shows about boy stuff though. i would much rather go to a nice art gallery.
4) American vs. British contestants
by banda
Have you found any differences between the contestants in different iterations of the show? Speaking as an American who spent part of his youth in England, I find the British contestants much more entertaining, insightful and engaging. Was it easier to work with any particular group? Were there any contestants that made the show difficult?
Cathy:
well here's a funny thing - a lot of americans prefer the british teams and a lot of british people prefer the american teams... what can it all mean? are we all riddled with self-loathing? are we all superbly positive and outward-looking and natural anthropologists? i don't know. i think there is part of the show which is about observing people doing their thing in their natural habitat, a bit like how we might watch a natural history film about baracudas. and in that sense it is easier to watch people who are bit removed from ourselves. i would say in terms of being a host (yuk yuk hate that word) - it is easier to do the american shows because american people are more 'tv-articulate' - they understand what is required for tv - i guess simply because tv is the most dominant medium in american life and history. whereas for brits, other media are still dominant if you look over the whole period of our history; we haven't quite let go of a time when we read dickens serialised in pamphlets, so we are more used to sitting quietly taking things in - rather than 'putting them out there' ourselves. americans can get away with saying things like 'i am the big cahuna' whereas british people just sound silly saying things like that. the only downside of the american show is that americans seem to be more competitive, which can mean that things get a bit serious sometimes. in the new show FMC the brits often lose and find it all rather funny and are very self-deprecating. but the americans sometimes cry!
5) Sounds from the indie records
by Mikey-San
Before the 'Heap, you were in a British indie-crash-twee-pop band called Marine Research, and before that, Heavenly. Do you keep in touch with Amelia and Rob these days?
Cathy:
indie crash twee pop?! yikes. don't let that get out. yes i do keep in touch with the old indies though i must say i don't go and shuffle along to shows as much as i used to. i saw britney in vegas so the tortured lollipops at the dublin castle will never feel quite the same...
6) As a musician, what do you think of...
by CSG_SurferDude
As a musician, what do you think of the music industry these days, specifically about the slave-labor-like recording contracts, industry ownership of copyrights, Peer-to-peer song sharing (MP3s), and the current fruitless atempts to copy-protect CDs?
Is there anything that you can do in your current position to help change any of that to the betterment of recording artists and consumers everywhere?
Cathy:
is this a leading question?! do you have a letter drafted for me to sign?!
er.. where to start? big corporations are scary in many many ways and the music industry is obviously no exception. but although there seem to be so many new issues today where normal people / artists / whatever are exploited i wonder whether it is really that different from when i was a kid and me and my mates used to tape everything off the radio and make compilation tapes (one of the greatest and most overlooked art forms) and never buy a record in our life. except if it was a local band or a band on a really cool label or a record where we just loved the cover and had to have it. its a big discussion - the only incontrovertible good is to support your truly independent labels. k records / kill rock stars / many others have proved that you can have integrity, great music and not go under.
7) Role of expert
by naarok
Watching on TV, it often seems that the expert provides some good initial insight into a problem, but then often becomes superflous. Sitting through many hours of actually watching the challenges unfold. How valuable were the experts in comparison to teams with general inventiveness?
Cathy:
it depends a lot on the challenge. if its something innovative and thought-provoking like 'build a car that fits in a suitcase' then most teams who have the necessary know-how to get on in the first place would be able to make a pretty good stab at it expert-less. but in other challenges, such as making gliders or submarines, they are dependent. it also depends of course how well they all get along....
8) massive disruption to geeks everywhere....
by gclef
So, have you ever been tempted to wander into somewhere like a LinuxWorld conference, just to see if you could stop all productive work from occurring? (you probably could, you know...)
If not, are you tempted now?
Cathy:
er. i blush easily. my sister and i used to have a fantasy about going to this event called 'crufts' (a really pompous but very-seriously-taken dog show in england (like, they show it on tv! ) where people parade their over-coiffured hounds around doing daft tricks and generally proving that to be english is to be humorous in this fairly tragic way) and doing a streak. but maybe just with bottom halves! it would be a totally pointless act of sort-of-harmless-sabotage of a worthless institution and this amused us.
i suppose what i mean (ie not evading your question quite so obviously) is that the notion of committing a minor act that leads to massive disruption is an appealing idea. but i'm not quite sure about yours....
9) Off screen testing?
by The Mutant
How much testing goes on off screen? For example, the episode where participants had to build a diving bell, descend to the bottom of a small pond, and retrieve a chest of gold.
I don't believe that this was not tested off camera, if for no other reason solely to insure you didn't inadvertantly end up making a snuff episode.
Same thing goes for pretty much any device where explosives were used, or even the airplanes.
Cathy:
worryingly little. its always the hardest decision - test them and make sure they work but risk them breaking during the test (which you're not filming) and then you have no show, or fail to test them and have true spontaneity and excitement about the outcome but risk them failing during the show or being dangerous or whatever. we debate it endlessly and there is often a half way house - the diving bells you can put in the water and test-pump some air, the gliders you can tow up on a winch without a person on them. but it never gives you the full picture and what you see in the show is invariably the first time the machines have been properly tested, people and all. scary isn't it?
10) Why Rollins? Why!!
by SanLouBlues
What's the coolest thing you've ever built yourself? Or, what's the coolest thing you've ever tried to build yourself?
Cathy:
well who else would look as good in a power station? i mean, just say the words 'disused power station' and you think of henry. i think he is fantastic - a force of nature. and he makes me laugh a lot.
what have i built? lord how embarrassing. you have outed me. the sad truth is the things i have made which have been the most impressive feats of engineering and construction have been cakes. sshhhhhh.
Contestants try and build a SHIFT key!!!
She is really a good host, and junkyard wars went to hell without her. I'm glad she's finally coming back. We need more british people on American TV!
And why did you staple the trout to the RAM?
I wish she would have read the thread with all the questions and possibly answered some of the questions that were good ones, but perhaps not modded as high (example the one about stocking the junkyard with needed parts). Aside from that It's always interesting to get a little behind-the-scenes on the Scrapheap.
There are only 10 kinds of people in this world... those who understand binary and those who don't
I don't know about you, but I don't think I could've trusted my life to a see-saw-powered airpump and a welded oil drum, especially without knowing if it would work...
Though, I can't say I would have been able to build anything as good as many of them have...
That what was all this school was for... to teach us how to solve our own problems. -- janeowit
...because american people are more 'tv-articulate'
I don't know I would take this as a compliment. Maybe I'm just getting older, but I find that many Americans today have a short attention span, sometimes too short to understand a complete explanation of whatever is happening. I find myself forced to condense complex problems into sound-bites just so users can follow the process.
Too bad life doesn't always apply itself to bite-sized answers....
JA
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Cathy is the reason I watched the show. I always found her to be a very sexy and engaging woman and after these responses, doubly so. (But she does need to capitalize.)
Love her haircut on the show as well.
STOP . AMERICA . NOW
He could have made an entire shuttle with a can of cream corn and a ballpoint pen.
That would be cool. Interview henry, roblimo, interview henry.
Reminds me of what I've always wondered anout Monty Python -- if I were British and actually knew where Luton is and the accents were unnoticeable to me, would they be particularly funny?
What I'm listening to now on Pandora...
my sister and i used to have a fantasy about going to this event called 'crufts' and doing a streak. but maybe just with bottom halves!
8-)
The Moore-Murphy Law: The number of things that will go wrong will double every 2 years.
in the new show FMC the brits often lose and find it all rather funny and are very self-deprecating. but the americans sometimes cry!
As an American, I feel a strange sort of pride at this. Yeah, it's just a TV show, but dammit, I've always felt that if you're going to commit to something, then commit yourself to doing the best job you can.
Sometimes it's best to just let stupid people be stupid.
"Editor, n. One who edits; esp., a person who prepares, superintends, revises, and corrects a book, magazine, or newspaper, etc., for publication."
Seriously, do we have any here?
Yes. It was.
You should learn where Luton is. If you lack that knowledge, you may accidentally go there.
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E_NOSIG
what self respecting geek doesn't like that combination? too bad there aren't more like her as the computing (not just tv) industry needs a little more gender diversity than the standard overweight male basement dwellers and insecure pimply dorky guys that seem to occupy most of it. this will hopefully change as time goes on and technology is more prevalent in schools and understood by 'the masses'. this seems to be the biggest open gap i see in the industry today...
Large print giveth, and the small print taketh away
That said,when I saw "Bumper Cars" I thought that it was the bumper cars you see on the board walk at the beach, or at a the carnival that comes to towm.
But aside from sumo, no car can deliberately damage each other...
[sigh ...]
"It is a greater offense to steal men's labor, than their clothes"
Backhanded, maybe? You have a point, but the flipside is that it is a valuable skill to be able to get your point across quickly and clearly. Clearly, she valued the fact that they were responsive to the needs of the media format, but I suppose we see this taken too far way too often, so there is some value in unselfconsciously going about your business. The comments about these differences are interesting.
If you want to know who she is, then follow this link.
C'mon you don't watch Junkyard Wars?!?
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This just in...
/. readers hoping for to spy a bit of the 'streak'.
The organizers of the Crufts dog show have just reported that tickets for the show have sold out for the next three years...seems like especially heavy sales from
Anyone have the ph#/web site for this crufts show?!?
The N.E.R.D.S. have a pretty good site about their time on the british show a couple years back.
http://www.the-nerds.org/
Sample episode:
---- "If we have to go on with these damned quantum jumps, then I'm sorry that I ever got involved" - Erwin Schrodinger
...then he's wrong. Cathy has said before and contestents on earlier shows have confirmed that in some cases they do stock the junkyard with a few essential bits. For example the rocket motors that they've used for the rocket shows -- I don't hang out in scrapheaps but I seriously doubt that you're going to find brand-new rocket motors just sitting in the truck of an old Pinto.
Also in one of the monster truck shows they even said on the air that some of the tires being used were on-loan from the company that made them.
-Coach-
Perhaps the world's greatest tragedy is that ignorance is not impotence.
one of the greatest and most overlooked art forms Anybody else catch that quote from John Cusak's movie High Fidelity? I didn't catch any Douglass Adams quotes, so maybe she's only pretending to be a geek.
The global economy is a great thing until you feel it locally.
OK, all of you have valid points and I'd liek to bring in mine if I may.
I'm a US citizen and I think the reason SOME of us are so confident/arrogant is that we seem to subliminally absorb more talk of our 'greatness' throughout history as a superpower and a free and fair country (now I'm not here to debate whether the US is the perfect Camelot like so many people who just say that and eat steak for dinner watching Fear Factor and I'm not saying that the US is a facists gov't masquerading as a Democracy like so many conspiracy theorists here).
This arrogance (again, of SOME of us) is annoying but calling all 'Americans' arrogant is a generalizations and generalizations usually are filled with trouble even seemingly harmless ones (gee, that Asian kid's sure good at math).
We US citizens, are more isolated from a lot of the world. Over here, going to another state is as easy as for one to go to another country in Europe. We seem therefore more, nationalistic, self-centered, etc.
But most of us are taught one good thing in childhood (usually). I'll never forget one of my 4th or 5th grade teachers telling us that competition is good, that competition built this country (the good along with the bad, but competition is not itself bad). He said that competition is the foundation for capitalism (not is so many words), and that it brings out the best in people.
Of course some people will take this previous remark as 'win at all costs' when one can take it as 'honest competition is noble' (etc), so that will immediately give you a good indication of what type of person you are.
I see nothing wrong in failing and being upset about it, whether you cry or not depends upon your personality and how seriously you take the competition or maybe how important it is to you. Failing miserably is much more worthwhile that never trying at all, IMHO. Regret is a bitch.
why run from Vincenzo?
At odds are my ever-present lust for telegenic renaissance women and my contempt for those pretentious art-school floozies who consider it cute and original to eschew the shift key. Such a contradiction! This is sort of paradox that destroys lesser beings....
I have decided to stand by my principles, and not accept any sexual proposition from Miss Rodgers. I implore the rest of you to follow my example. Let's not be soft in the face of bad syntax!
she never said whether she'd go out with me.
"Best interview ever."
"Sometimes a woman is a kind of religion, she can save your soul & set you free from all your sins" - Bad Examples
I'm curious as to the results of the Dan Gilmour interview - were the questions ever sent? Did he ever answer? Did I just flat-out miss the posting with his responses?
:)
Note: I ask not only for completeness of the interview, but also for personal reasons - I'm curious to see if my question was one of the ten sent to Mr. Gilmour
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"oh lord i don't know."
Cathy on how she comes up with these shows:
"don't know quite how i have managed to end up doing so many shows about boy stuff though."
Perhaps, Cathy, the engineering world is so dominated by males because females think of it as "boy stuff"?
Lowercase is damn sexy - very stream-of-conciousness-ey. I know a girl who talks like that on AIM all the time, complete with "er". *Sigh*. Some girls look sexy, some sound sexy, and some type sexy.
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The scrapyard/junkyard used in both the original British show and the subsequent American one is the same... and it is in London...
There are several times in both shows where Canary Wharf is visible on the skyline...
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Syntax is the structure of a sentence and the order in which the words are uttered or written. cummingsed sentences do not necessarily have flaws in syntax.
From what Cathy said, it sounds like attractive women (or any women) who would be good candidates for JW are very much in the minority. So much so that she has had troube finding them. I expect it says that women in general like building stuff out of scraps a lot less than men do. Why? Who the hell knows? The fact that Cathy is the only attractive women you've seen on the show probably says something about the ratio of attractive to unattractive women in the likes-to-make-stuff-out-of-scraps segment of the populace. It also says something (not necessarily bad) about the kind of woman you find attractive.
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Meanwhile, my wife asks me what a got-o statement is. ;)
I had no idea where Luton was, and curiosity got the better of me.. here it is:
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Now I know.
This would insightful and informative, if only it were true... Both Scrapheap Challenge and Junkyard Wars are filmed in the same junkyard, which happens to be located in England (near London, I think...) Oh, and for the other naysayers: It's a set but it's also a junkyard... it's part of a functioning and open junkyard, but they've walled off q section. And *sigh* yes, they do stock the yard a little.
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"Gravity is only a theory, not a fact!"It didn't even occur to me that women were under-represented in the engineering world until I actually started working, but even now I cringe when people call it "boy stuff". So it struck me as ironic that Cathy said she didn't know why there aren't more female engineers and then, a few paragraphs later, referred to engineering as "boy stuff." ;)
No, it's relative. Women are a minority in the make-stuff-from-junk area, not the whole population. Just like men are, I'm sure, a minority in the quilting community. I agree that the negative probably overwhelms the positive on the whole, and showing a women in a field like engineering helps encourage young women to go into these fields, so it's a Good Thing to choose an equally-qualified woman over a man in a case like this. Maybe even a slightly-underqualified woman. But doing this is discrimination, which is considered by nearly everyone to be Evil. I just thought it was interesting and wanted to challenge people's notions of discrimination.
I'm equally sure they wouldn't sacrifice the quality of the show by hiring dumb pretty girls; that's reserved for MTV.
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Oh, hello mr Shallow. She was british for god's sakes. Screw hotness, its the accent and organs that matter. This in itself is the problem with america. Recall the Debate between Reagan and JFK? (Yes, I suck at history), TV People thought JFK won because he didnt look nervous, while Reagan was sweating his ass off. On the radio side, they thought Reagan won, because he had good arguments, and a strong case. Now let me ask you something. What do you want, a president who looks good, or who will be adequate in office? Thats right, same applies to people. Dont judge me because I'm ugly, judge me as an idiot!
And why did you staple the trout to the RAM?
Mine is, my friend. And I count my lucky stars for that.
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Dangerous stuff. My wife has this great T-shirt with a 50's homemaker on the front with head tilted to the side. The caption reads "If you can bake a cake, you can make a bomb." True too. Given the right recipe, many interesting things can happen.
So, Cathy "the Baker" may be more dangerous than you think.
Nice benefit of the shirt... all the great looks.
Just to debunk a common misconception: discrimination is good! It's something everybody does, too. You married or have a girlfriend? Then you discriminated (ie you chose the qualities of one girl over others [asuming you had a choice, of course]). It's just that some forms of discrimination (racism, chauvinism, nationalism) are stupid and based on nothing.
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In the last 20 feet or so, air will expand by a factor of 1.6 times. This can kill. If the persons in the bell were trained and there were rescue divers nearby with spare second stages, any risk would be minimal.
Not so much 'Dirty Fingernails'... more 'Dirty'
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