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Saddam's Inbox Hacked

MotorMachineMercenar writes "Wired News is reporting that Saddam Hussein's email account (press@uruklink.net) has been hacked into. The account had a five-letter login with the same password. Messages in his inbox sent from all over the world included everything from death threats to business propositions to offers to sell him WMDs. A choice quote from the article: 'One AOL user sent Saddam a one-word message: 'Imminent.' Attached to the Aug. 6 e-mail was a photograph of an atomic mushroom cloud.' I wonder what the login was." You'd think it was "press," password "press," but if it were that obvious I think someone would have said so.

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  1. Other good news for Saddam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Mr. Jambunju of Nigeria needs his help getting his family's money out of the country, and if Saddam helps, he will get half of it.

    Plus, thanks to the miracle of herbal viagra, he'll soon be able to sustain an erection all night, and please many women in bed!

  2. hmmm by pizza_milkshake · · Score: 5, Funny

    hmmm Saddam wasn't using AOL? he may be more dangerous than we thought.

    1. Re:hmmm by C0LDFusion · · Score: 3, Funny

      Of course not. Haven't you heard? Iraq OnLine is the 137,000,000th hottest internet service provider, serving all of 2 people (Saddam and the hacker)for the past decade! And it's growing fast! With new Dictator Controls, it's easier for Saddam to choose what access you have. And e-mail is a snap. Just ask the guy who hacked his inbox!

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    2. Re:hmmm by ncc74656 · · Score: 4, Funny
      hmmm Saddam wasn't using AOL? he may be more dangerous than we thought.

      Has anyone checked to see if the password is 12345?

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      20 January 2017: the End of an Error.
    3. Re:hmmm by sean23007 · · Score: 3, Funny

      That sounds like the kind of password an idiot would have on his email.

      Note to self: 12345 no longer an acceptable password for this account...

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      Lack of eloquence does not denote lack of intelligence, though they often coincide.
    4. Re:hmmm by superyooser · · Score: 5, Funny
      The real proof that Saddam is evil (from a web developer's perspective):
      <meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage5.0">
      Also, they're using Microsoft-authored Java classes using the deprecated applet element.
      <applet code="fphover.class"
      and they're obviously anti-/. too. ;-)
      codebase="./"
      Worst of all, there's no DOCTYPE declaration, without which, a validator does not know which HTML version to expect. This means that Iraq has no intention of complying with international web standards.

      I'm waiting for the U.N. to send in Web Inspectors.

  3. Hoax? by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I can't help but think this is bogus. What exactly is _Saddam_'s Inbox? Does _he_ read that mail, or do his subordinates? Anyway...interesting, no matter if it's true or not.

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    1. Re:Hoax? by Unknown+Bovine+Group · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I agree. A hoax or an intentional plant on Hussein's part. I immediately thought of the "orgy of evidence" line from Minority Report.

      On the other hand, if it's true, whomever "hacked" the account and told the press probably only duplicated a hack already done by the NSA, and caused Saddam to close the hole. Good job, bonehead!

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      m00.
    2. Re:Hoax? by HerringFlavoredFowl · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I vote Red Herring ...

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      TastesLikeHerringFlavoredChicken
    3. Re:Hoax? by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, like the article says, the address is the Iraqi equivalent of "president@whitehouse.gov". (As opposed to "president@whitehouse.com", which is something quite different. ;) So what it means, no doubt, is that a bunch of low-level employees do a first pass through it, filter out all the spam and death threats, then pass it onto their slightly less low-level superiors, who filter out most of the rest of it and write up summaries, then pass it on ... [repeat n times] ... until Saddam gets a one-page summary on his desk and maybe a couple of really interesting letters, like the one from an American to which he (supposedly) wrote a personal reply.

      Iraq's government is very, very different from ours in a lot of ways (duh) but it's still a government, and thus a bureaucracy, and all bureaucracies have certain aspects in common. The people who read the e-mail addressed to "press@uruklink.net" and those who read the e-mail addressed to "president@whitehouse.gov" would probably be able to fit quite nicely into each other's jobs.

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    4. Re:Hoax? by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 3, Funny

      Duh! Saddam doesn't read his email, one of the "Saddam Lookalikes" reads the email, and occasionally responds... so I guess you could call them "Saddam Typealikes".

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      "Can of worms? The can is open... the worms are everywhere."
    5. Re:Hoax? by dattaway · · Score: 3, Funny

      Its a hoax until I see links to mirrors of his inbox. It would be for historical purposes of course...

    6. Re:Hoax? by Genjurosan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      For some reason, I just don't see Saddam reading e-mail. What exactly would he expect? An outlook invite to the lunch and learn session on advanced tourture methods in the atomic conference room? Or perhaps he gives out his card at political functions so that people can e-mail him new ideas about how to fund terrorist operations without the world knowing about it.

      --
      Saddam Hussein
      President, god, and super nice guy (because I said so).
      Iraq, country of milk and honey
      (964)(1) 718-9267 (phone)
      (964)(1) 885-2286 (fax)

      "This issue is not inspectors, the issue is disarmament."

      - GWB

    7. Re:Hoax? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      Iraq's government is very, very different from ours in a lot of ways
      Yeah --- the guy they voted for got to be President.
    8. Re:Hoax? by bhsx · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's not over yet! The 0.1% of those who voted for "Not Saddam" are calling for a recount of the Floridastan votes.

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      put the what in the where?
    9. Re:Hoax? by timeOday · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're missing the point. The joke is not on Saddam, but on all those well-wishers, detractors, and would-be business partners who sent him mail. I found the excerpts very entertaining.

    10. Re:Hoax? by shogun · · Score: 5, Insightful

      We change our regime every 4 years

      I'm not an American but I'd like to point out that occasionally swapping between Democrats and Republicans is NOT a regime change.

  4. All Saddam's email are belong to us! by leviramsey · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hack inbox for great justice

    Seriously, when are people going to learn that short usernames with the username as the password are a bad idea? Maybe the US should bomb everybody whose email is stupidly secured like that?

    1. Re:All Saddam's email are belong to us! by Mr.+Sketch · · Score: 5, Funny

      Maybe the US should bomb everybody whose email is stupidly secured like that?

      I think you mean the US should set him up the bomb.

    2. Re:All Saddam's email are belong to us! by DahGhostfacedFiddlah · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think you mean the US should set him up the bomb.

      Your grammar is atrocious! For future reference:
      "I think you mean the US should set up him the bomb."

    3. Re:All Saddam's email are belong to us! by Mr.+Sketch · · Score: 3, Informative

      Wow, you're right. All this time I thought it was 'set us up the bomb', but after checking the bible you're right, it is is 'set up us the bomb'.

      Someone should go back and moderate my previous post -1 Idiot.

    4. Re:All Saddam's email are belong to us! by iocat · · Score: 5, Insightful
      It's offtopic, but I had to respond:

      An objective analysis of both W's record and Saddam's record reaveals that Saddam has a much worse record on human rights. It's funny and popular to say otherwise on Campus, maybe, but last time I checked, the US government doesn't maintain a specially horrific prision for the children of dissidents, doesn't gas its own citizens, doesn't execute military officers by the hundreds, doesn't explicitly repress free speech, etc. Which the Iraqi government, controlled by Hussein, does.

      Regardless of whether or not attacking Iraq is a good idea, saying what you said kind of makes you seem like a moron, because it's absolutely factually incorrect, and it lessens the impact of any argument you try to make.

      The worst Republican, on his worst, conspiracy-laden, evil, money-grubbing day is better than Saddam Hussein on his best, most charitable, not-killing-people day.

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      Dude, I think I can see my house from here.

    5. Re:All Saddam's email are belong to us! by dpille · · Score: 3, Informative

      on his best, most charitable, not-killing-people day

      If you set parameters like that, I have to disagree. Rumsfeld says he's letting people go from Guantanamo, meaning that all those people who said wait, you can't just imprison people who may be innocent were almost on the money. They only missed the part where they used may be instead of are. If you pick a day where Saddam isn't actually killing people, he's obviously doing no worse than this.

      I wouldn't have taken the poster literally- and with stuff like the above going on, his figurative point is easy to make.

    6. Re:All Saddam's email are belong to us! by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 4, Informative
      I can't stand Bush, but Bush is no Saddam. Saddam is a murderous thug, a gangster whose gang controls a country. It's as if Tony Soprano ran a country, but with fewer moral qualms. I don't think the US should be rattling its sabres and I don't think another war is warranted, but Saddam is still an asshole of the widest caliber.

      That said, Iraq is probably the only Arab country where women can wear whatever they want, fully participate in political life (well, to the same limited, oppressed amount the men can, anyway) and have full legal equality in both professional and personal domains. It's better to be a woman in Iraq than to be one in Saudi Arabia, or Kuwait, or even Egypt. To some extent, that's due to the nature of the Baath party's platform, and also to the fact that Saddam is a very secular thug.

    7. Re:All Saddam's email are belong to us! by Skjellifetti · · Score: 3, Informative

      That said, Iraq is probably the only Arab country where women can wear whatever they want, fully participate in political life (well, to the same limited, oppressed amount the men can, anyway) and have full legal equality in both professional and personal domains.

      Bahrain held an election this week in which women could both vote and run for office.

    8. Re:All Saddam's email are belong to us! by Hard_Code · · Score: 5, Informative
      Not to argue with your conclusion, but:

      doesn't gas its own citizens


      Oh really?

      US germ war tests on civilians

      Tuskegee syphilis experiment
      more

      US eugenics program
      more

      Intentional radiation of civilians during nuclear testing
      more

      Gulf War Syndrome, which was at first completely ignored and lied about, and finally recently acknowledged (although we still don't know what it is, nor do we know whether the government really knows or not - there have been accusations of experiments on our own soldiers).

      not to mention:

      Genocide of indigenous peoples as official policy
      by the way, this shit was [is?] still going on in uncomfortably recent history still going on:
      Article II of the Genocide Convention also expressly prohibits
      involuntary sterilization as means of "preventing births among" a
      targeted population. Yet, in 1976, it was conceded by the
      U.S. government that its ÒIndian Health ServiceÓ (IHS), then a
      subpart of the Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA), was even then
      conducting a secret program of involuntary sterilization which had
      affected approximately forty percent of all Indian women of
      childbearing age. The program was allegedly discontinued, and the IHS
      was transferred to the Public Health Service, but no one was
      punished. Hence, business as usual has continued in the ÒhealthÓ
      sphere: 1990, for example, it came out that the IHS was inoculating
      Inuit children in Alaska with Hepatitis-B vaccine. The vaccine had
      already been banned by the World Health Organization as having a
      demonstrated correlation with the HIV-virus which is itself correlated
      to AIDS. As this is being written, a Òfield testÓ of Hepatitis-A
      vaccine, also HIV-correlated, is being conducted on Indian
      reservations in the northern Plains region.


      Supposedly, Himmler kept a framed photograph of a Native American, as a reminder of the splendid example the United States provided.

      The list goes on and on. Sure, Saddam may be a war criminal. But our own history is not so rosy...in fact it is pretty fucking disgusting and we need to wake up to that fact. We don't have the moral highground we profess to have. In fact Iraq's entire history pales in comparison to the atrocities that have been committed in the names of US citizens. This doesn't make either right. It makes both wrong.
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      It's 10 PM. Do you know if you're un-American?
    9. Re:All Saddam's email are belong to us! by Dirtside · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah... whenever you're trying to remember which of two forms an AYB quote takes, just think about which one has more grammatical errors, and that's your quote. :)

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      "Destroy science and religion. Science would re-emerge exactly the same; but not religion." - Penn Jillette, paraphrased
    10. Re:All Saddam's email are belong to us! by etymxris · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I really don't think it's fair to compare the Iraq of today with the US of 100 years ago, or even 50 years ago. As for the more recent "atrocities" you mention:

      • We don't know what caused Gulf War Syndrome, or if the US government is responsible. The only evidence of a coverup is the evidence that the symptoms are so vague that no one even thought to look at it as a separate illness until sometime after the war.
      • Doing bad things with nuclear, biological, or chemical weapons before we knew the dire consequences of using them is one thing. But it is another thing to use such weapons on civilians when you know exactly what the effects will be.
      • That the US government was giving Hep B vaccines to Inuit children in a covert attempt to increase incidence of AIDS among that racial group during the 1990's is just ludicrous. It may very well be that there are bad side effects to the Hep B vaccine, and it may be that the US government was negligent in exploring the effects of such vaccines, but to say that the use of the Hep B vaccine was done intentionally and solely for the purpose of giving Inuit people AIDS is just ludicrous, and I'll regard it as such until you can come up with better evidence.
    11. Re:All Saddam's email are belong to us! by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 3, Informative
      Women are freer in Kuwait than in Saudi Arabia (talk about lowering the bar!), but still less than they are in Iraq, or even Iran (where women can and do vote and participate in the political sphere and hold office, even if they still have a very conservative dress code.)

      Kuwait's biggest political problem is its failure to provide basic civil and political rights for the majority of its residents, of course - the majority of residents are non-Kuwaiti "guest workers".

    12. Re:All Saddam's email are belong to us! by Hard_Code · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Point 1: Granted. Gulf War Syndrome is still vague and relatively little is known about it. But the government DID now that lots of soldiers were complaining about it. They first ignored them, then told them there was no such thing, and now, whatever the heck it is, the government is finally admitting there may be something to the claims (whether or not the military did something intentionally, or the soldiers were exposed to enemy chemical agents, etc.). The point is, the government was willfully disinterested in GWS.

      Point 2: Forgive me if I reserve a healthy skepticism of the naivete and innocence of those who perpetrated "accidental" civilian casualties and ailments during the course of experimentation. Vague enemies on the other side of the planet are eternally convenient, yet, inexcusable, reasons for such behavior.

      Point 3: I never made the claim, and neither does the article, that the US was trying to infect any group with AIDS. The point is, the US has been in violation of the Genocide Convention (I was not aware of this particular convention), perpetrating involuntary sterilizations as recently as 1976! With similar callousness, according to this article, the US apparently used sub-par or experimental vaccines on Native Americans.

      I didn't make this stuff up. Just because they don't teach it to you in namby pamby middle school US history doesn't mean it is not real. Search Google yourself. Better yet search your library. This stuff is historical fact, not speculation. We just refuse to acknowledge the dirty portions of our past...which I think does ourselves a disservice - especially when we expect to use our moral highground to sidestep international law and treaties to "do the right thing".

      As far as our history with dealing with Native Americans, I suggest:

      Rethinking Columbus: The Next 500 Years

      The sooner we dislodge the fantastic myth, and somberly acknowledge and admit to our real past, the sooner we become a better people.

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      It's 10 PM. Do you know if you're un-American?
    13. Re:All Saddam's email are belong to us! by Nailer · · Score: 3, Funny

      Your grammar is atrocious!

      you're grammar, friend. ;)

    14. Re:All Saddam's email are belong to us! by Mojojojo+Monkey+Inc. · · Score: 3, Funny

      Oh no, the day has come when modding up an AYB reference is Informative instead of Funny! The end is definately upon us.

    15. Re:All Saddam's email are belong to us! by Fjord · · Score: 5, Interesting

      One thing to consider is that a lot of these atrocities don't come out in the open until many years later. 50 years from now, there may be someone else in another forum saying "I really don't think it's fair to compare the X of today with the US of 100 years ago, or even 50 years ago"

      Plus, a lot of these were less than 50 years ago. The Sarin, Soman, Tabun and VX civilian tests were from 1962-1973 and the Native eugenics was in 1976. That was only 12 years before Saddam used Sarin on the Kurds.

      The original poster is certainly wrong when they said GW is worse than Saddam, but GW's only been in power for 2 years, Saddam's been there for 23. I think if you add up all the atrocities the U.S. government has done in the last 23 years (known and unknown, to it's own people and to foreigners) it would outpace what Saddam has done in that time, but then again, the U.S. has a lot more influence over the world.

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  5. Password? in english? by Jonny+Balls · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Don't you think his password wouldn't be in ENGLISH?

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    --JonnyBlog
    1. Re:Password? in english? by dr_dank · · Score: 4, Funny

      C'mon, don't let facts get in the way of a good story.

      Remember our friend from last year?

      Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna play some Doom 3.

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      Where does the school board find them and why do they keep sending them to ME?
    2. Re:Password? in english? by babbage · · Score: 4, Insightful
      What, so "press" is the Arabic word for a journalistic contact address now? What a cognate!!

      You make a valid point, but English does seem to be the lingua franca of the interweb, even (apparently) among contries at the "axes of evil". The site seems to largely be in English, so the people running it presumably are English speakers as well. I can say, just from some of the foreign-born students I've known, that people that learn a technical subject in a particular language will tend to think in that language when practicing the craft, even if otherwise they speak something else. (For example, a Russian friend who studied aeronautical engineering as his father did, but couldn't discuss the subject with his dad because he only knew the English terms for everything & didn't know how to express the same concepts in his native language.)

      So, like I say, I think your point is insightful, but at the same time I don't think it's unreasonable that the un/pw would have been English terms if the rest of the site was also English (as, from the little I poked around, it seems to be).

    3. Re:Password? in english? by sfe_software · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, I kinda assumed that the press@ address is, most likely, an alias that points to a similar Arabic-worded address. I could see that easily. If you have visitors from English-speaking countries, you'd have an English contact address (just like how they have an English version of the site).

      If the site weren't slashdotted I'd try to find the corresponding "Contact" link on the Arabic version, to verify this...

      The article didn't say that the username/password was a 5-letter *English* word -- just that it was 5 letters. That "press" happens to also be 5 letters is probably just coincidence, as if it were press/press I'm sure it would have been hacked a long, long time ago...

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  6. WMD by po8 · · Score: 3, Informative

    WMD = Weapon of Mass Destruction. Not obvious, IMHO.

    1. Re:WMD by Pike65 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh OK.

      . . . . How exactly do you send someone an e-mail trying to sell them a weapon of mass distruction?

      Sadam,
      You have been approved.
      You can receive a thermo-nuclear warhead!
      Did You Know?
      -There are No special requirements to obtain these weapons.
      -These are weapons that you NEVER have to repay!

      Sadam,You Qualify!
      Click Here
      Limited Time Offer!

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      "If being a geek means being passionate about something, then I pity those who aren't geeks." - Pike65
  7. I wonder.... by JoeLinux · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hmm...this would make for a good fark contest: Make a email that might be in Saddam's inbox.

    To: Madmn@aol.com
    From: GWBush@whitehouse.gov

    Subject: Hahahahaha

    Prepare your Camels, 'cause we're about to get medeviel on your scud-launching ass. And if you use Bio weapons, you won't stop glowing for a LONG time. And don't think you can bankrupt us. We use weapons on you, we order more, our side gets more jobs. So let us in, or we'll come down on you like the hand of god.

    Party on,

    GWB

    1. Re:I wonder.... by Malcontent · · Score: 5, Funny

      If it mentioned oil I could have sworn dubya himself wrote that email. Grammer mistakes and all.

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      War is necrophilia.

    2. Re:I wonder.... by JoeLinux · · Score: 3, Funny

      To: Madmn@aol.com
      From: GWBush@whitehouse.gov

      Subject: Re: Hahahahaha

      Forgot to add: If you are going to send the big bad Republican Guard after us, please be sure to equip them with white flags and THEIR own hand restraints. It was quite annoying last time to have to resort to plastic ties.

      Oh, oh, and please pass out white flags. We'd hate to accidently kill one of the many thousands trying to surrender.

      And once again, use bio weapons on us, and we'll do something truly evil back: Feed your people. Including the Kurds.

      We have food
      Are you afraid?
      Down with Iraq
      Down with Iraq

      GWB.

    3. Re:I wonder.... by sql*kitten · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Party on

      You know, I can't help but thinking that in another time and another place, Saddam and Dubya would have been good buddies, probably frat brothers. They both have an insatiable appetite for the good life, they both make all their money from oil, they both affect a religious piety when it suits them, they both love to be a "man of the people". This isn't as unlikely as it sounds, George Bush junior once owned a company (Arbusto Energy) jointly with one of Osama bin Laden's many brothers.

      What the world really needs is for one of Dubya's daughters (not Jenna, the other one) and one of Saddam's sons to fall in love. Then, after many Baz Luhrmann-esque antics their fathers can be reconciled, and live happily ever after on a ranch in the sovereign state of Texraq.

    4. Re:I wonder.... by babbage · · Score: 3, Funny

      An obvious forgery, there aren't nearly enough typos, grammatical errors, garbled logic, etc. It is well known that the real GWB write at a 2nd grade level, but this is solid 5th grade stuff. Nice try... :-)

    5. Re:I wonder.... by mikerich · · Score: 5, Funny
      kinda like how austin powers and doctor evil went to school together?

      With Tony Blair co-starring as Mini Me?

      My god it's all starting to make sense!

      Best wishes,
      Mike.

    6. Re:I wonder.... by grammar+fascist · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I think you both forget that Osama's entire family has disowned him.

      Gotta love guilt by association.

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    7. Re:I wonder.... by Zigg · · Score: 3, Interesting

      George Bush junior once owned a company (Arbusto Energy) jointly with one of Osama bin Laden's many brothers.

      As damning as this may sound, it should be remembered that Osama is the black sheep of the family.

  8. CONFIDENTIAL PURPOSE by limekiller4 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes, but did he get any business propositions from Nigeria.

    That's what I want to know.

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    Limekiller
  9. Re:Scary by Iamthefallen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Contrary to popular american beliefs, Europe is NOT pro-Iraq, we're just not as keen on resorting to force nowadays since we saw the result of it at home.
    The US hasn't in modern times seen widespread destruction on home turf, we still remember it vividly.

    If the US could prove to European leaders (and European population) that Iraq is indeed the threat the US makes it out to be, then I'm sure European nations would also support military action and possibly be a part of it, as most have stated, they want a UN mandate first. But, the "He dun tried to kill mah paw" argument isn't that convincing on the European side of the pond.

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  10. examples of leaders' bad passwords... by TWX_the_Linux_Zealot · · Score: 5, Funny

    King of the Druids: "One... Two... Three... Four... Five."

    Dark Helmet: "That sounds like the combination an idiot would have on his luggage!"


    <snip>

    President Scrooge: "One two three four five? I can't believe it! I have the same combination on my luggage!"

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    IBM had PL/1, with syntax worse than JOSS,
    And everywhere the language went, it was a total loss...
  11. Re:Scary by pubjames · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Contrary to popular american beliefs, Europe is NOT pro-Iraq, we're just not as keen on resorting to force nowadays since we saw the result of it at home.

    Hey guys, just to make the argument clearer could you please make a distinction between Saddam and his cronies and the people/country of Iraq. I'm sure many Europeans (and hopefully Americans) would consider themselves pro-Iraq if we are talking about the country and people, but anti-Iraq if we are talking about Saddam and his cronies.

  12. Y2K-Not OK! by phawley · · Score: 5, Funny

    from article:

    The version of webmail software used by the Iraqi ISP is known to have several security holes -- but the patches available for them do not appear to have been applied.


    from uruklink.net website:

    October28 ,102

    like Y2K? ;)

  13. In related news by Theodore+Logan · · Score: 5, Funny

    Saddam's personal homepage is right now being subjected to what appears to be a large scale DDOS attack. After Saddam has butchered his sysadmin and the hackers, he's coming for you Jamie...

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    "If you think education is expensive, try ignorance" - Derek Bok

  14. Re:Scary by Iamthefallen · · Score: 3, Informative

    Ah good point, but IF military action is taken, it's not enough to simply remove saddam, the entire government employed staff needs to be looked at, every cache of arms that could pose a threat be destroyed, a new system of government needs to be made, new police, new army etc etc etc. Basically, little will remain of the old Iraq except for the people and the borders. Therefore it will be a war on the nation, not against a person.

    IF action is taken, it must be such that no one will have to go back and redo it again 10 years from now.

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  15. Re:Scary by TheCaptain · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Contrary to popular american beliefs, Europe is NOT pro-Iraq, we're just not as keen on resorting to force nowadays since we saw the result of it at home.


    I would have hoped you also saw the result of NOT using force when it should have been...like keeping Hitler from rearming after WWI.

    I am not trying to be a troll or leave the wrong impression, but Saddam and his crew are not the types you want to have that kinda stuff. The U.N. knows it and made resolutions to prevent it...unfortunately, none of them are being enforced.

    There were agreements made to stop the last war...like weapons inspectors that wouldn't be interferred with etc. Saddam isn't abiding by his side of the deal, so the other side isn't bound to the ceasefire either. This has very little to do with GWB wanting to kill him because of his father...and that is a really really lame accusation, IMHO.

  16. So who exactly did the hacking? by Dan+Crash · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Did Brian McWilliams, author of the article, do the actual hacking? Or was he just informed of it by some skript kiddie? The article is mysteriously vague about who did the deed.

    Assuming they did do the hacking, this is ethical... how? Does this mean they figure it's all right to hack into anyone's e-mail and publicize the results? What if it were your e-mail?

    It may have been a nifty trick that someone happened to guess the right password, but as journalism, this is beyond the pale. I'd like to see someone from WIRED News comment a little more specifically on who the hacker was, why his or her name wasn't disclosed, and how WIRED justifies reporting on the hacked contents of an e-mail account, and where they draw the lines.

    --
    He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.
  17. All involved US corporate leaders arrested! by erroneus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Some of these commercial offers might even be considered high treason.

    I hope that all U.S. corporate leaders involved are immediately arrested and charged with treason or some other appropriate offense. This is wrong on so many levels it churns my stomach. The arrogance of these people astound me to no end.

    I sincerely hope this is a hoax but somehow I can see that it's possible.

    If there is truth to U.S. business attempting to solicit business with Saddam Hussein, then I expect to see reports of arrests and investigations in the news. But I can already hear the paper shreading machines in operations and the degausing machines humming...

  18. Uruks from Iraq? by merriam · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm confused. Is Saddam breeding orcs now?

    1. Re:Uruks from Iraq? by user+flynn · · Score: 5, Funny


      Send this message to Saddam:

      Uruk Hi!

      Somebody set us up the bomb.
      We get signal.
      What happen?
      Main Screen, turn on.
      It's you!
      How are you? All your base are belong to us!
      You are on the way to destruction.
      What you say?!?
      You have no chance of survive! Make your time! muhahah muhahahaha!
      You know what you doing!!!
      Move oil for great justice!

      Sincerely,
      George W. Bush

      Sounds like something from a GW press conference :).

      --
      In the distance you hear an ominous moo.
    2. Re:Uruks from Iraq? by kldavis4 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Uruk is a city in Iraq.

    3. Re:Uruks from Iraq? by TedCheshireAcad · · Score: 5, Funny

      All your joke are old to us.

    4. Re:Uruks from Iraq? by Nept · · Score: 3, Funny

      Frodo: But he was destroyed. Saddam was destroyed.
      Gandalf: No, Frodo. The spirit of Saddam endured. His life force is bound to his weapons and the oil survived. Saddam has returned. His Orcs have multiplied. His fortress of Baghdad-dur is rebuilt in the land of Mordor. Saddam needs only these weapons to cover all the lands with a second darkness. He is seeking it, seeking it, all his thought is bent on it.

      --
      "Teachers leave us kids alone ..." - Roger Waters, Pink Floyd
  19. Credit where credit is due, slightly OT by Theodore+Logan · · Score: 3, Informative

    Just in case that is actually modded up and someone finds it funny, I didn't come up with it myself. I read it in a Plastic discussion a while ago. I can't remember which, however, and I can't remember who said it, so I guess this isn't much help tracing down the original source. I just didn't want credit for such a brilliant acronym unless I came up with it myself.

    --

    "If you think education is expensive, try ignorance" - Derek Bok

  20. Still vulnerable? by m0i · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It looks like uruklink.net is still vulnerable:
    -port 110 is opened
    -it reveals they're running Ipswitch IMail 7.07
    -this software has a known overflow and exploit on the web client side
    -http://mail.uruklink.net:8383/ is opened.

    What are their sysadmin waiting to shut down 110/8383? Wake up!

    Side note, it's funny to see that they are running an american OS and mail software..

    --
    have you been defaced today?
    1. Re:Still vulnerable? by daeley · · Score: 3, Funny

      What are their sysadmin waiting to shut down 110/8383? Wake up!

      Somehow, I doubt they're sleeping, nor their families, except in the morbid, metaphorical sense of 'to sleep' that Hamlet uses in his soliloquy. :)

      --
      I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
    2. Re:Still vulnerable? by tswinzig · · Score: 3, Funny

      Side note, it's funny to see that they are running an american OS and mail software..

      Yes, astoundingly they didn't feel like using anything from the huge Iraqi software market!

      --

      "And like that ... he's gone."
  21. Re:Pearl Harbor ring a bell? by Samrobb · · Score: 5, Insightful
    America hasn't got enough 'history' and so can't understand these things.

    No - we have more than enough history... your history, as a matter of fact. We understand these things very well, thank you, which is why we go to great lengths to keep our homeland from experiencing the sort of things that have happened elsewhere in the world.

    So - what next? Are you going to claim that only someone who dies from lung cancer is smart enough to know that smoking is dangerous?

    --
    "Great men are not always wise: neither do the aged understand judgement." Job 32:9
  22. Re:Fake? by tx_mgm · · Score: 3, Funny

    most hated man in america for several years running? i think not.
    about a year ago, the most hated man in america was, without a doubt, another mid-eastern man.
    and he probably still should be, too.
    but hey, since we can't find him, lets listen to dubya and go finish daddy's business so we can get that pesky economy off of our minds!
    *end sarcasm*

    --
    Gentlemen...BEHOLD!
    -Dr. Weird
  23. Journalistically speaking, by Jerf · · Score: 5, Interesting

    To play Devil's advocate, from a journalistic point of view, Wired's primary responsibility is to validate the source of the info. Once that is done, you can make a very good case that this is, at least potentially, the sort of thing that People Must Know, which overrides most other considerations.

    The contents were probably awfully mundane, perhaps too much so to qualify for The People Must Know, but one could imagine at least in theory that they might have found something interesting in there.

    There is precedent for this: For a big example, consider the Watergate scandal. The New York Times wasn't "supposed" to be in possession of that material, and they certainly weren't "supposed" to publish it, but The People Must Know overrode their reservations, and most of us would consider that the right decision based on the info they had at the time.

    On the other hand, hacking into my email and telling the world about it would be unethical; there is no need for anybody to know what's in there, so they'd just be rumormongering.

    What, you say this "The People Need To Know" is an awfully fuzzy criterion to be using? Damn straight! These ethical things are hard.

    (Remember, I'm playing devil's advocate here; I don't believe it's black and white, but I do think there is a strong kernel of truth here.)

  24. Some people just have no sense... by coupland · · Score: 5, Funny

    The part I thought most comical was the people writing to warn him that the CIA would be after him and to exercise caution, or with ideas on how to win a war. Yes, I'm sure Saddam fired off a hardcopy of that e-mail, brought it to his War Ministry and they all read it in awe.

    "By the grace of Almighty Allah, skater601@aol.com has shown us the road to salvation!"

    Jeez, people can be so dumb...

  25. /. is a weapon of mass destruction.... by Ashurbanipal · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...that we have now loosed on Iraq's feeble Internet connection.

  26. President Skroob by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 3, Funny

    That's incredible! I have that same combination on my luggage!

    --
    You see? You see? Your stupid minds! Stupid! Stupid!
  27. Official Body Count! by EggplantMan · · Score: 3, Funny

    Deaths directly linked to the (mis)use of:
    IIs : 1
    Apache : 0

    Is using IIs really worth the risk? Please, think before you deploy IIs.

    --

    ?-|||-----x<*))))><
  28. Ominous date by f97tosc · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Attached to the Aug. 6 e-mail was a photograph of an atomic mushroom cloud.' It is probably not a coincidence that Aug 6 was the 1945 date that the nuke was dropped on Hiroshima.

    Tor

  29. The password is... by jabber01 · · Score: 3, Funny

    1.. 2.. 3.. 4.. 5..

    Same as the code on G.W. Bush's luggage.

    --

    The REAL jabber has the user id: 13196
    What you do today will cost you a day of your life

  30. No more hacking Saddam's inbox? by Jouster · · Score: 4, Informative
    So, rather than actually shutting down the ports in question, they just turn off DNS resolution for webmail.uruklink.net. Of course, their NS entries still exist, and a quick subnet scan on port 8383 (nice of them to choose an odd port number, wasn't it?) reveals that adding
    62.32.60.16 webmail.uruklink.net
    to your /etc/hosts (or C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts for us Windows users) quite nicely lets us into the webmail system.

    Alas, the user/pass is not "press"/"press", nor a mispelled "sadam"/"sadam". Ah, well.

    Jouster
    1. Re:No more hacking Saddam's inbox? by Jouster · · Score: 4, Informative
      And for those who care...
      # nmap -vv -P0 -O -p 25,110,8383,8389 62.32.60.16 #webmail.uruklink.net

      Starting nmap V. 2.54BETA31 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
      No tcp,udp, or ICMP scantype specified, assuming vanilla tcp connect() scan. Use -sP if you really don't want to portscan (and just want to see what hosts are up).
      Host (62.32.60.16) appears to be up ... good.
      Initiating Connect() Scan against (62.32.60.16)
      Adding open port 25/tcp
      Adding open port 8383/tcp
      Adding open port 110/tcp
      The Connect() Scan took 12 seconds to scan 4 ports.
      Warning: OS detection will be MUCH less reliable because we did not find at least 1 open and 1 closed TCP port
      For OSScan assuming that port 25 is open and port 33201 is closed and neither are firewalled
      For OSScan assuming that port 25 is open and port 39570 is closed and neither are firewalled
      For OSScan assuming that port 25 is open and port 39827 is closed and neither are firewalled
      Interesting ports on (62.32.60.16):
      Port State Service
      25/tcp open smtp
      110/tcp open pop-3
      8383/tcp open unknown
      8389/tcp filtered unknown

      No OS matches for host (test conditions non-ideal).
      TCP/IP fingerprint:
      SInfo(V=2.54BETA31%P=i386-redhat-lin ux-gnu%D=10/28 %Time=3DBD8674%O=25%C=-1)
      TSeq(Class=TR%TS=0)
      T1 (Resp=Y%DF=Y%W=564%ACK=S++%Flags=AS%Ops=MNNT)
      T2( Resp=N)
      T3(Resp=N)
      T4(Resp=N)
      T5(Resp=N)
      T6(Re sp=N)
      T7(Resp=N)
      PU(Resp=N)

      TCP Sequence Prediction: Class=truly random
      Difficulty=9999999 (Good luck!)
      TCP ISN Seq. Numbers: 5E47AE5C A0B64F86 4F9BF508 BFC8A529 A3713D10 9EA869AA
      IPID Sequence Generation: Busy server or unknown class

      Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 94 seconds

      Jouster
    2. Re:No more hacking Saddam's inbox? by Jouster · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I love it!

      The changes are propogating across DNS now... "webmail.uruklink.net" is now a private address in the 10.0.0.0/8 class A!
      Non-authoritative answer:
      Name: mailserv.uruklink.net
      Address: 10.0.0.16
      Aliases: webmail.uruklink.net

      Jouster
  31. Here is the WHOIS note contact ama_72@yahoo.com by Brigadier · · Score: 5, Interesting


    Kinda wierd to think the most clear and present danger to the free world uses a yahoo address for there administrators.

    Registrar:domaininfo.com
    Domain Name: URUKLINK.NET

    [Owner of domain name]
    osama khalid
    27 april street
    baghdad, 0000
    IQ

    [Administrative contact]
    khalid, osama
    27 april street
    0000 baghdad
    IQ

    Email: ama_72@yahoo.com
    Phone: +964 1 5372494
    Fax: +964 1 5434731

    [Technical contact]
    khalid, osama
    27 april street
    0000 baghdad
    IQ

    Email: ama_72@yahoo.com
    Phone: +964 1 5372494
    Fax: +964 1 5434731

    [Zone contact]
    khalid, osama
    27 april street
    0000 baghdad
    IQ

    Email: ama_72@yahoo.com
    Phone: +964 1 5372494
    Fax: +964 1 5434731

    Record created: 29 May 2000
    Record last changed: 22 Nov 2001
    Record expires: 29 May 2005

    Nameserver: nic1.warkaa.com (62.32.60.1)
    Nameserver: nic2.warkaa.com (62.32.60.2)

    1. Re:Here is the WHOIS note contact ama_72@yahoo.com by danimrich · · Score: 3, Interesting

      They even use Frontpage!
      <meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage5 .0">

      Does this mean that M$ is bad or that Saddam's web "designers" are stupid?

      --
      where's all that Karma?
    2. Re:Here is the WHOIS note contact ama_72@yahoo.com by zephc · · Score: 5, Funny

      it means that MS supports terrorists! Or... something... :-D

      --
      "I would say that 99 per cent of what my father has written about his own life is false." - L. Ron Hubbard Jr.
  32. an aside by Luyseyal · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A friend of mine was in the Gulf War -- US Army infantry. He said he and all his buds were "encouraged" (i.e., berated by the sargeant until they did it) to sign a waiver and receive an injection of non-FDA-approved anthrax vaccine. I've wondered if this had a possibile relation to Gulf War Syndrome. Any idea?

    -l

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  33. Re:Free weather service by BoneFlower · · Score: 3, Funny

    Reminds me of a joke about Afghanistan:

    Q: Whats the 7 day forecast for Afghanistan?

    A: Three days.

  34. Mod parent down (was: Re:Mod parent up) by Theodore+Logan · · Score: 3

    Agreed. It wastes a lot of people's time when editors or story authors (in the absense of competent editors) try to show how "with it" they are by not expanding acronyms, especially when they have not recently been used in a slashot headline.

    You could not possibly be serious. If you have read any single issue of any newspaper during the last year you must have seen that acronym. And the latter part of your comment is just hilarious. It hasn't featured in a Slashdot headline, so you couldn't know about it? Want them to clarify who Saddam is too? He doesn't frequent Slashdot headlines all to often either.

    Sorry for flamebating/trolling/whatever, but really, try to get out of your cubicle just a little more often, willya?

    --

    "If you think education is expensive, try ignorance" - Derek Bok

  35. New way to combat spammers.. by James_G · · Score: 3, Funny
    Saddam's inbox also contained several solicitations from American companies hoping to do business with Iraq -- despite U.S. prohibitions and United Nations trade sanctions.

    To: Saddam, Subject: MAKE MONEY FAST!!!
    To: Saddam, Subject: Generic Viagra! $2.50 each!
    To: Saddam, Subject: Increase your penis size!

    Wouldn't it be so nice to close down spammers because they're breaching UN trade sanctions? Maybe you could even get them charged with treason.. Muahahaha

  36. Gaiacomm Technical Docs by KlomDark · · Score: 3, Informative

    I found their "technical" documentation - it was a wildly entertaining read, the ultimate in nonsense techno-babble. What in the hell is a "tetra-gigahertz"?

    Great phrases like:

    "Mathematical expressions have been eliminated to allow the reader to interpret the words and draw pictures in his mind to see what I, and so many others in the past have discovered but were afraid to write about or do until now."

    "The frequency dependence of attenuation in the earth ionosphere wave-guide channel is known but will not be disclosed in this paper."

    "If after reviewing all the this data including the above written data, if the reader still does not have a clear understanding then it is clear that the reader does not have the ability to think outside the circle (remember, my condition at the outset?)"

    Definitions of acronyms like ATM and CDMA at the end, although none of those terms are discussed in the document.

    Read it, laugh your head off! :)

  37. Yeah, whatever. by Find+love+Online · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Doing bad things with nuclear, biological, or chemical weapons before we knew the dire consequences of using them is one thing. But it is another thing to use such weapons on civilians when you know exactly what the effects will be.

    So you're saying it's somehow more morally acceptable to experiment on unwitting people who have done nothing to you then it is use tested and proven poisons on people who are in the middle of an uprising? It's not like Saddam was out gassing people for fun, "His own people" were trying to overthrow him.

    We used biological, chemical, and radiological substances we thought would hurt people on innocent people to make sure it worked. Saddam used weapons on people trying to overthrow him. One of them is worse then the other, and it isn't Saddam

    1. Re:Yeah, whatever. by statusbar · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Not only that, the Kurds that Saddam gassed were fundamentalist muslims that are now in full support of Osama Bin Laden!!! We dropped bombs on supporters of Bin Laden in Afghanistan. What's the difference?

      --jeff++

      --
      ipv6 is my vpn
  38. if I were the hax0r.. by Suppafly · · Score: 3, Funny

    If I were the one that hacked his inbox, I think I would have sent emails to all of his followers telling them to kill themselves.. or maybe I just would have taunted the rest of the world with email riddles and chain letters.

  39. Saddam as a unix user? by Choachy · · Score: 3, Funny

    SunOS 5.6

    login: joshua
    password: joshua
    Last login: Mon Dec 25 2000 00:29:33

    You are logged onto sandbox.uruklink.net.
    Unauthorized access to this system will result in shooting, stoning, or hanging.

    Mon Oct 28 16:36:42 EST 2002 /export/home3/iraq/saddam
    sandbox% ls
    mail public_html games

    sandbox% cd games /export/home3/iraq/saddam/games

    sandbox% global_thermonuclear_war
    global_thermonuclear_war : Command not found

    sandbox% global_thermonuclear_war
    global_thermonuclear_war : Command not found

    sandbox% global_thermonuclear_war
    global_thermonuclear_war : Command not found

    sandbox% @#$*&(@^#
    @#$*&(@^#: Command not found

    sandbox% exit

    Connection to host lost.

  40. hmm by mr.+sleepy · · Score: 3, Funny

    I first read this as, "Saddam's X-Box Hacked", and I can't stop laughing.

  41. Re:what by isorox · · Score: 3, Funny

    asshole probably can't even use a computer at all without wanting to shoot or gas it.

    But to be fair, we all feel like that on a monday morning