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Apple Gives Laptops Speed Bumps

sockit2me9000 writes "Apple released their new PowerBook today. They include faster processors across the board (up to 1GHz), Radeon 9000 GPUs, and the top-of-the-line model will include a slot-loading SuperDrive. Price points remain about the same. New iBook was released as well."

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  1. PowerBook G4 & iBook by catwh0re · · Score: 4, Informative

    All laptops are now $200(USD) cheaper than before.

  2. Re:argh by mgaiman · · Score: 3, Informative

    You can return them. Apple has a 10 day return policy (if they're opened though, you'll have to pay a restock fee).

  3. "speed bumps"? by pongo000 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Hey, Pudge, where I live, speed bumps are used to slow people down. I couldn't figure out why in the hell Apple would want to slow their laptops down.

    Mayhaps you were looking for "speed boost" or "speed increase"?

    1. Re:"speed bumps"? by qengho · · Score: 4, Informative

      where I live, speed bumps are used to slow people down.

      Heh. Although the term seems incongruous, it's shorthand for "bumps up the speed."

  4. Re:argh by MoxCamel · · Score: 5, Informative

    Be advised that Apple (well, the Apple Store) has a "no return" policy if you change any configuration, such as adding more memory or a bigger hard drive.

    I know this because I wanted to exchange my 15" iMac for a 17" iMac. They didn't want to do it because I had ordered my iMac with extra memory. I had to talk to a manager who not only accepted the exchange, but waived the stocking fee. Their staff was courteous and professional, but persistence pays.

  5. Re:Apple proves the 'rumours guys' wrong by zaren · · Score: 5, Informative

    MOSR has been irrelevant in the rumors "industry" (in my opinion) since they completely missed the boat on the iMac all those years ago. Their "rumors" tend to come from pie-eyed "what-if" scenarios snarfed form IRC these days.

    There's much better Mac rumor sites out there - MacRumors and Macslash being two of them.

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  6. Re:Must be a first by binaryDigit · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well not quite. They still have the original iMac for $799. So the iBook can be thought of as the most expensive G3 they sell.

  7. Re:It's expensive, but .... by strictnein · · Score: 4, Informative

    IMHO a 1Ghz G4 is about the same as a 4Ghz P4 in speed.

    lol

    come on now, that's just silly and you know it. the length of pipeline does not a processor make (or some stupid thing like that)

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  8. Re:This is great!! by simong_oz · · Score: 3, Informative

    yeh, not to mention that the bottom of the range laptop costs $999 in the US and £849 in the UK (more than US$1300).

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  9. Re:128MB? by dhovis · · Score: 5, Informative
    cracking an iBook or PowerBook open can be a little daunting (and warranty-voiding if done wrong)

    You haven't done it, have you? Easy as pie. Pop off the keyboard. On the TiBook, you will see the 2 slots. On the iBook, you need to remove the Airport card (if installed), and 2 small screws to remove the cover over the memory slot. Even if you don't know what you are doing, it doesn't take more than 10 minutes.

    In fact, I think there is a diagram on the bottom of the keyboard to help you. There are definitely directions in the owners manual.

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  10. Re:128MB? by Fugly · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, while normally outrageously expensive, apple memory happens to be pretty cheap right now. You can double the ram in any system for $40. Bumping the TiBook from 512MB of RAM to a gig of RAM for $40 sounds like a pretty sweet deal to me. Bumping the 256MB iBook to 512MB for $40 doesn't sound bad either.

  11. Re:Nice and cheap by edmo · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually, apple has had always had good stuff like this, everybody just sees the price and doesn't bother to check the specs

    Also Mac's do have a longer life then most other computers Iv worked w/
    I once read a quote that said a mac has a useful life of 8-10 years, at that I laughed my head off, until I realized I wuz reading it on my PPC from 95(only thing that's gone out in that time is the monitor...)

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  12. Re:MegaHertz Myth!! by kasparov · · Score: 5, Informative
    Google to the rescue!

    So as not to be a complete ass, the first link from that article as a statement that a P4 overclocked to 3.9GHz (wow--he used liquid nitrogen) was only able to do 4.9 Gigaflops. A dual-G4 1GHz did 15 Gigaflops...

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  13. EU is screwed on price, as usual. by forged · · Score: 3, Informative
    Here's a quick chart:

    US version
    $2299 867mhz
    $2799 cdrw
    $2999 superdrive

    European version
    2988 867mhz
    3682 cdrw
    3945 superdrive

    IF you can get a flight for less than $1000 you're saving money.

  14. Re:It's expensive, but .... by pauljlucas · · Score: 5, Informative
    Maybe a USB-serial converter would work.
    They do work. Try Keyspan.
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  15. Re:still not cheap enough by Planesdragon · · Score: 3, Informative

    The lower classes need something affordable, dependable, and proven, and for this reason we will continue to stick with PC manufacturers such as GateWay 2000 and DELL. I hope Apple figures this out soon.

    (Gateway dropped the "2000" bit three years ago.)

    The lowest priced iBook is $999. Dell's lowest priced model is $899, and Gateway's lowest priced model is $999. They've hardly got Apple beat on the "value laptop" end.

    And, like a different poster said... if you're sturggling along doing dock work, what do you need a shiney new laptop for?

  16. Re:battery life by BinxBolling · · Score: 5, Informative
    So can I watch an entire DVD on a single battery charge?

    Yes. Also, if you download something like DVDBackup and use it to copy the DVD to your hard drive before your trip, the Apple DVD player can play it from there, which will probably consume less power than spinning the DVD drive would.

  17. Re:It's expensive, but .... by Draoi · · Score: 3, Informative

    Some of them definitely work - the question comes up on the darwin-developers list regularly. There's a /dev entry for serial devices & also the XServe has a fully-working serial port on the back of the machine. So yeah, MacOS X natively supports serial ....

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  18. Re:iBook still stuck at G3 by 0x69 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The current iBooks use the new IBM 750fx "G3" CPU's. What's holding them back is *marketing* - the 750fx goes up to 1GHz (25% faster) with 200MHz (100% faster) bus, but Apple's too afraid of eating into (more profitable) TiBook sales to ship faster iBooks.

    IBM did a *really* nice job designing the 750fx CPU. Back in May/June (when Apple introduced it in the iBook) one of the Apple hardware sites did some G3(750fx) vs. G4(Moto) comparison benchmarks. Bottom line: for anything that wasn't written to use AltiVec, the IBM G3 was just as fast as the Moto G4 (at same MHz).

    Weak video systems really slowed older iBooks down in (eye-candy-full) OSX. It's far less a problem in the new iBooks.

    Understand what you'll be using it for and do your homework BEFORE spending the $$$ to get a G4.

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  19. Re:No USB 2.0? by BlueGecko · · Score: 3, Informative

    Apple has said several times at shareholder meeting that they will not adopt USB 2.0. Generally speaking, Apple feels that it alone is responsible for the success of USB 1.0 in the first place, and therefore is pissed that Intel would target their FireWire technology with USB 2.0. Essentially, Apple feels as if Intel is backstabbing them.

    All that said, I don't see FireWire going anywhere. I do see it redefining its niche to be purely high-bandwidth applications such as video cameras and very fast external drives. Do remember, however, that FireWire 2 is due very soon and will literally double the bandwidth. Could change things considerably.

  20. Re:Nice by Knobby · · Score: 3, Informative

    The PowerBooks are pretty easy to work on. I've upgraded the Harddrive, memory, and recently even swapped the g3/400 processor card for a g4/500 card in my Bronze Powerbook. The processor upgrade took 15 minutes which included the time required to watch the quicktime video that stepped through the process..

  21. Student Developer discount by alikat · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually, if you're a student in the US, you can get a high-end TiBook for $2400! You just need to pay for a 1 year membership as a student developer ($99), and then you can order through their ADC Hardware Purchase Program.
    Details:
    Student Developer Membership
    Student Hardware Purchase Program
    TiBook in the Hardware Purchase Program

  22. Re:iBook still stuck at G3 by RevAaron · · Score: 3, Informative

    IBM makes the G3 chips Apple uses and Mot makes Apple's G4s. AltiVec is something by and from Mot only. Apparently the G5/PPC970 will implement something very much like it, a clone, at this point IBM doesn't have the rights to AltiVec.

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  23. Re:No USB 2.0? by Onan · · Score: 3, Informative
    In theory. But in practice, firewire is actually substantially faster. cf this comparison.

    Firewire also offers things like isosynchronous transfers, and a more flexible chaining topology.

  24. Ditto and... by BiOFH · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...Firewire's life is and will be driven by DV cameras not external disks. As long as the cam manufacturers continue to use Firewire (and Sony is going to, rest assured), then USB will not kill Firewire.

    Besides, recent test results have shown that USB may not be the Firewire killer it's touted to be in real-world situations.

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  25. Re:iBook still stuck at G3 by jpt.d · · Score: 3, Informative

    I run a 700mhz ibook with the radeon w/16mb vram. Jaguar is certainly not as fast as windows is on my desktop, but it is still a load faster than 10.1.5 . I do in fact have Quartz Extreme as well.

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  26. Re:No USB 2.0? by Tuzanor · · Score: 3, Informative
    You have been caught in the marketing hype :-)

    USB 2.0 has a PEAK transfer of 480 mbps, whilst firewire has a SUSTAINED transfer of 400 mbps. As the other poster at my level also stated, firewire also chains better, is more consistent in its speed and generally is better for high bandwidth purposes. USB 2, while it has gained some support in external hard drives and CD-Rs, is still an inferior product that was created more for political reasons.

    USB belongs on the low bandwidth end (mice, webcams, keyboards) whilst higher transfer devices should be firewire (digital camcorders, iPod, hard drives).

    Heh, I don't even own a Mac and I'm praising firewire, lol!