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IBM Working on Brain-Rivaling Computer

Obdurate writes "The first supercomputers to approach and even surpass the processing power of the human brain are to be built by IBM, under a $184M contract announced by the US Government yesterday. ASCI Purple and Blue Gene/L will be the fastest and most powerful machines built, with a combined capacity equal to the 500 best of todays computers."

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  1. Re:uhu by medscaper · · Score: 2, Funny
    how do they measure the processing power of the human brain?

    They time William Shatner doing some quick calculations...

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  2. No match for me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    How often does it think about sex?

    1. Re:No match for me... by Per+Wigren · · Score: 4, Funny

      Considering how much the average person thinks about sex, it won't take much more than a 2.5Ghz P4 to emulate the rest!

      With that in mind, a P2/266 will probably do it for my brain.. ;)

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    2. Re:No match for me... by scott1853 · · Score: 5, Funny

      "In that particular moment, I was reconfiguring the warp field parameters, analyzing the collected works of Charles Dickens, calculating the maximum pressure I could safely apply to your lips, considering a new food supplement for Spot..."

      Looks like it's only a low priority thread.

    3. Re:No match for me... by BrotherSeminarian · · Score: 2, Funny


      [jason:~] jawells% gcc -Wall sex.c
      sex.c: In function `sex':
      sex.c:3: warning: statement with no effect


      No effect? Drat, foiled again!

  3. Wow by Salden · · Score: 2, Funny

    Can this thing telecommute? It could hold several jobs since most people only use a fraction of their brain at work. I wonder if it can do its own taxes.

    1. Re:Wow by Tackhead · · Score: 3, Funny
      > Can this thing telecommute? It could hold several jobs since most people only use a fraction of their brain at work. I wonder if it can do its own taxes.

      No, and no.

      It's only got the power of one human brain.

      First, that means it's too stupid to telecommute, and probably prefers to sit in traffic for an hour or two each day in a busy-wait.

      Second, on the ability to do its own taxes, it's up against over 500 lawyers masquerading public servants on Capitol Hill who are drafting laws to make the tax code even more incomprehensible.

      Even if we assume a generous lawyer-to-human intelligence ratio, it's still outgunned at least ten-to-one.

  4. Brian's nothing special by 20goto10 · · Score: 5, Funny

    In fact he's a bit thick.

  5. Thank god by drunkmonk · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now we can have computers that screw things up at a rate that rivals our own! Because seriously, we needed the competition.

  6. brain-rivaling? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Big deal. My P133 with Word 97 exceeds the entire slashdot crew at spell checking.

  7. Processing power of the human brain? by mustangdavis · · Score: 3, Funny
    Is that measured in flops or mips?

    The first supercomputers to approach and even surpass the processing power of the human brain


    Actually, that won't be that difficult to do if they are comparing this computer with the "brain power" some of the doe-doe's I went to high school with ...

    1. Re:Processing power of the human brain? by micromoog · · Score: 3, Funny
      Was that rare female of the spieces?

      Was putting a spelling error and multiple grammatical errors in the same sentence an attempt at being ironic?

    2. Re:Processing Power of the Human Brain? by azimir · · Score: 2, Funny
      That's 40 Hz per unit in a large asynchoronous system of individual processing clusters.

      one that handles getting audio signals, one that handles getting video signals... and then completely different controllers for recognizing voice, music, speech, text, and images
      I think you just described an Amiga.
  8. Re:uhu by e8johan · · Score: 5, Funny

    I do 1-2 flops if I get easy numbers...

  9. Re:uhu by binaryDigit · · Score: 5, Funny

    Easy, just run SPEC-brain.

  10. Whose brain? by sstory · · Score: 3, Funny

    there's variability in human brains. I wonder whose brain it will rival. We don't need to spend $100,000,000,000 to wind up with an electronic version of Pat Robertson or Rush Limbaugh.

    1. Re:Whose brain? by G-funk · · Score: 2, Funny

      You've got an atari that can jizz on passing fat chicks? That I've gotta see!

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  11. Hooray! by RomikQ · · Score: 5, Funny

    Perhaps now we will get the Answer to Life, Universe, Everything!

    And it damn better not be 42!

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  12. Well - the Orange Catholic Bible says: by Etrigan_696 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thou Shalt Not Make a Machine in the image of the mind of Man.

    Somehow, I think that might be good advice.

  13. Re:uhu by TummyX · · Score: 3, Funny


    Then we rate them, by my calculations, you're brain is running at a level equivalent to a C64.


    Ouch.

  14. But... by r_j_prahad · · Score: 2, Funny

    Will it cuss whenever it gets a core dump? Will it cry when its favorite sysadmin leaves for a new job? Will it get horny when a cute little beowulf cluster comes sashaying by? Will it eventually get totally stupid and become a manager?

    My place in the universe is still very much assured it would seem.

    1. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      My place in the universe is still very much assured it would seem.

      Yup, your management position is safe.

  15. Future Timeline by Phoenix666 · · Score: 1, Funny

    2004 Blue Gene achieves processing power of human brain.

    2006, 2 a.m. Blue Gene becomes sentient.

    2006, 2:01 a.m. BG acquires control of DefenseNet

    2006, 2:02 a.m. BG declares 'First Post' on Slashdot. Modded down as offtopic.

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  16. And they will name it 'skynet' by the_mind_ · · Score: 4, Funny



    Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14am.

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  17. Re:not too far away... by Psx29 · · Score: 2, Funny
    We will have such chips implanted into our brains in order to reason even quicker, then we will develop newer chip that will help design newer computers that will miniaturize themselves as new implants that will help us...

    Hopefully it won't be running microsoft software

  18. Crayola by SplendidIsolatn · · Score: 3, Funny

    ASCI Purple

    I can't wait until a few years from now when we're treated to talking about ASCI Mauve, ASCI Burnt Sienna, and ASCI Periwinkle....

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  19. Hostess makes Twinkies that rival human brain! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Twinkies are not sentient in any way we can understand,
    but they rival the raw processing power of some human brains.
    "Especially when they're still in their colonies",
    says Hostess creamy-filling researcher.

  20. Government brainpower? by banda · · Score: 5, Funny

    So a computer with the processing capacity of a human brain is to be put to work by the government? Does the US government have any actual experience in managing something as powerful as a human brain? How long before the computer realizes it could do much better in the private sector?

  21. Cool! by Mitchell+Mebane · · Score: 2, Funny

    From the article:

    ASCI Purple will be built using 12,544 IBM Power5 microprocessors, the same chips that are used in Apple PCs and Nintendo games systems.

    So it's basically a Beowulf cluster of GameCubes?

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  22. Re:uhu by scotay · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's before overclocking.

  23. For the 2004 election by Frank+of+Earth · · Score: 3, Funny

    ..contract announced by the US Government yesterday. This computer will be delivered just in time for the national debates of the 2004 election, subbing in for George Bush.

  24. Business Proposal by limekiller4 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dear IBM,

    I couldn't help but notice that you were hard at work developing a computer to rival the human brain to the tune of $184,000,000.

    It just so happens that I have a human brain and I would be quite happy to let you use it for a tidy sum that is far below the aformentioned $184M.

    Please give me a call at your earliest convenience to work out the details.

    Thanks,
    Jason

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    1. Re:Business Proposal by limekiller4 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Dear IBM,

      While I appreciate and share your concerns regarding after-market brains, I can assure you that despite the label, this brain is in factory-fresh, like-new condition. She hardly ever uses it.

      Trust me. I'd know.

      Regards,
      Jason

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    2. Re:Business Proposal by Puu · · Score: 2, Funny

      Dear Jason,

      Thank you for your helpful offer. Unfortunately, we are aiming at an intelligence at least capable of telling the difference between dollars and pounds.

      Yours Sincerely,
      IBM

  25. There is hope for the scarecrow after all! by Joey7F · · Score: 5, Funny

    We can make mechanical hearts so the tin man is taken care of. All that's left is to give the cowardly lion a lot of booze and suddenly Dorothy is off to see the wizard by herself.

    --Joey

  26. He he he by ayjay29 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Imagine a bewul... --sssllllaaaaappppp!!!!

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  27. Re:uhu by einer · · Score: 5, Funny

    A phaser's energy pulse doesn't travel at c--if it did, we'd never see even a little streak in any scale small enough to see the crew or the enterprise. The directed-energy weapon has at least some mass to contain the energy.

    Hate to be a dick, but.

    It's people like you that make it hard for people like me to get laid. It's not just that you know a bunch of stuff about technology. It's that you know a bunch of stuff about technology that doesn't exist. For example, last week I was forced to break up a conversation that two of my cow-orkers were having on the relative merits and drawbacks of the different types of transporters used by the different races. Had that conversation continued, it might have made it impossible for any geek to EVER GET LAID AGAIN.

    Just the hearing phrase "computer scientist" causes most women to stop ovulating immediately already. Let's not make things worse on ourselves.

  28. Re:Brainpower by jafuser · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yes, but how many BP does it take to process one LOC (Library Of Congress) of data?

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  29. Re:Smaller is Better by josh+crawley · · Score: 3, Funny

    ---Our brain is the ultimate laptop.

    I beg your pardon... My girlfriend is my "ultimate laptop". heh heh..

  30. Re:Deja Vu by Gropo · · Score: 3, Funny
    Now whose brain are we using as a benchmark? Anna Nicole Smith or Marilyn Vos Savant?
    I might have an opportunity to meet Marilyn Vos Savant next month at the annual Parade Publications holliday party... I'll be sure and ask her the outcome of a 14 megaton detonation if it were to occur on the corner of 47th and Lex at about the 25th story level. I'll get back to you on that ;)
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  31. Re:Processing power only part of the issue... by deblau · · Score: 5, Funny
    So the human brain totally and utterly is secondary to the computer already.

    Ah, I beg to differ. Pour orange juice on a motherboard. Totally disfunctional in a few seconds. Now pour orange juice on your head.

    Brain 1, Computers 0.

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  32. Re:Processing power only part of the issue... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Now pour juice on the desktop case. Now pour juice on the brain during surgery.

  33. stupid name for a supercomputer.... by nebenfun · · Score: 3, Funny

    ASCI White, Deep Blue(understandable), but now
    ASCI Purple and Blue Gene/L ? WTF?

    Is the next version going to be called
    ASCI Pink and Purple? or ASCI Barbie's Dreamhouse.....

    Get back to naming the systems after Tolkien characters, or greek gods. ( :) )

    Skynet will rule the human race, sure enough, but it won't be called "Skynet". It will be known as
    ASCI SuperPoopyPants.

    nbfn

  34. Re:Deja Vu by Tackhead · · Score: 3, Funny
    > > Now whose brain are we using as a benchmark? Anna Nicole Smith or Marilyn Vos Savant?
    >
    >I might have an opportunity to meet Marilyn Vos Savant next month at the annual Parade Publications holliday party... I'll be sure and ask her the outcome of a 14 megaton detonation if it were to occur on the corner of 47th and Lex at about the 25th story level. I'll get back to you on that ;)

    The difference between theoretical and experimental science, in a nutshell.

    A theoretical physicsist knows that the simplest way to get the answer is to just ask Marilyn Vos Savant, wait a few moments while she derives the equations for the 14MT blast at the desired altitude from first principles, and then punches it into Blast Mapper to demonstrate that indeed, her answer of "well, it'll suck more than the 1MT blast, and less than the 25MT blast" is within the paramaeters of the open literature.

    An experimental physicist, on the other hand, will find out - and will do so much more quickly than the theoretician - simply by asking Anna Nicole Smith by means of a telephone call placed from at least 20 miles away, and observe the results as Anna's head explodes during her brain's attempted parsing of the question. (Predicted criticality point: somewhere between the words "outcome" and "of").

  35. Packrats by tomzyk · · Score: 2, Funny
    ASCI Purple will be built using 12,544 IBM Power5 microprocessors, the same chips that are used in Apple PCs and Nintendo games systems.

    Sheesh. My mom hates the fact that I keep my old 486 around. I can't imagine who would keep that many old Nintendos packed away in their basement/attic. (probably someone not living with their parents, I'm sure.)
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  36. Obligatory jokes by TheConfusedOne · · Score: 2, Funny

    The Windows brain:
    Clippy - It appears you're trying to catch a ball...
    *THUD* OUCH!

    The Linux brain:
    Guy named Beowulf #1: Move left 3 feet.
    Guy named Beowulf #2: Move forward 2 feet.
    Guy named Beowulf #3: Raise arms 10 inches.
    Guy named Beowulf #4: Catch ball.

    The Apple brain:
    This would be a lot easier if the ball were translucent. Also, the Apple ball only has one seam to make it easier for the user.

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  37. What you all don't realise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Microsoft is Skynet!

  38. Re:Brainpower by charon_on_acheron · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yes, the power of the human brain = 1 BP (brainpower).

    But that's the American system. The rest of the world uses Metric, and not even NASA can remember the conversion ratio. I seem to remember something about subtracting 32, but it's getting foggy.

  39. Re:uhu by AnalogBoy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now i'm curious... What are the different advantages and disadvantages to different races transporter technologies?

  40. Mike Nelson? by Rand+Race · · Score: 3, Funny
    Mike Nelson, IBM's director of internet technology...


    Shouldn't Joel Robinson be the director of this project? I mean, the guy made at least three AIs out of parts meant to stop and start movies! Mike was barely able to keep them functioning after Joel escaped.

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  41. Re:Processing power only part of the issue... by Trogre · · Score: 3, Funny

    Brain 1, Computers 0.

    Now evacuate all the oxygen from the room for thirty minutes:
    Brain 1, Computers 1

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