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Conspiracy Theorists, Meet The Moon

Spock the Baptist writes "You can read about an article entitled: "Telescope to challenge moon doubters" in the online edition of Sydney Morning Herald. The SMH reports that, "European scientists are to use the world's newest and largest telescope to see whether the spacecraft are still on the lunar surface." Does anyone really think that this will change the alleged minds of doubters?"

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  1. Won't these pictures be part of the conspiracy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    An 18 meter telescope has a Dawes Limit of .0077 arc seconds, (doesn't it?). But, the angular size of a 1 meter object at 400,000 kms is about .0005 arc seconds. How big was the biggest object left behind on the moon? Can this telescope actually resolve anything as small as an Apollo lander?

    Is that Rocket Guy still around? Maybe it'd be easier to put these people on one of his rockets and they can take a closer look for themselves.

  2. Re:Who cares? by zmooc · · Score: 4, Informative
    New projects will be financed

    Projects are financed by the state which is financed by it's people. Now some of those people don't believe their money is really spent right with NASA. That might hurt financing in the long run or may already do so; getting people enthousiastic is very important. And to get that done, they first have to believe.

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  3. Re:And in other news.... by kmellis · · Score: 3, Informative
    You mean "...doubting Christopher Columbus's trip to Asia and to prove that the world is really just about as big as people thought it was". No one thought the world was flat.

    Hey, what do you know? Turns out that all the naysayers were right and Columbus was a deluded nutcase.

  4. Taking care of various conspiracy arguments by weird+mehgny · · Score: 4, Informative

    Maybe someone posted this before me, I could've missed it, anyway:

    http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.htm l

    It's pretty thorough.

  5. Re:The American flag by fredrik70 · · Score: 2, Informative

    AS other pointed out Hubble would probably get fried. ALso, even if it could do it, it would only be able to see things down to about 100 meters across.

    see here

    and here

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  6. Re:What if... by GospelHead821 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Unfortunately, I've seen disturbing evidence that some of the citizenry values the greed of corporations over the needs of the people. The other day, after reading the /. article about Nissan vs. Nissan, I told my parents about it, and they agreed that Nissan has more right to defend its name than Uzi Nissan does, because it's bigger, and that it would most appropriate for Uzi Nissan to change the name of his site or give up the URL entirely.

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  7. Re:Conspiracy Theorists... by Tzoq · · Score: 5, Informative

    No mystery there. You'll notice that all of the "disappearing" crosshairs go behind bright white objects. As it happens, when film is exposed the bright areas tend to "bloom" and bleed into neighbouring dark areas. So what happens when a thin black line goes through a bright white area? The bloom washes over the black line entirely and it disappears.

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  8. we already have proofs.. by da5idnetlimit.com · · Score: 5, Informative

    As far as I remember, the crew that landed on the moon had for mission to place some highly reflective mirrors on the moon surface.

    Those mirrors are used to calculate the exact distance bertween earth and the moon by using a large laser and getting a few photons back to make the calculations.

    Now, except if the doubters find a way to slingshot a miror on the moon, THIS is a quite valuable poof, as they DO exist and are used everyday.

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  9. Re:Doesn't matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    Then they'd just claim that what they were touching was just some mock-up put there after the fact. You really can't win with the irrational.

  10. Plagiarised!!!! by siliconeyes · · Score: 2, Informative

    Dude, at least give credit where it's due. Thought I'd read that before! Googling turned up

    Link 1
    Link 2

    Basically a copy-paste job.

  11. radiation by Dexter's+Laboratory · · Score: 4, Informative

    Ofcourse the conspiracy believers will not accept any proof. They will just counter it with a stupid explanation. This is one of the characteristics of pseudoscience; they refuse to listen to anything that might spoil their own beliefs. Right now it seems to be the radiation. While I'm certainly not an expert in that field, here is a link that explains more on the topic:
    http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html# radiation

  12. Re:Doctored photos by Bob+McCown · · Score: 2, Informative
    Several years ago at Cape Canaveral, Florida I had the opportunity to tour the full scale relica of the Ducan Hindes.

    I'm sure you mean the Golden Hind... Duncan Hines makes food...

  13. Use interferometry to boost resolution by flowerp · · Score: 2, Informative


    To get detail images of the moon landers, you have to use interferometry.

    Your telescope's aperture limits the resolution of the image. Since it's no where practical to build 100m mirrors, you have to use interferometry. That means bundling several beams into one, like they do with the VLT telescope on Mt. Paranal.

    With radio telescopes you can use recordings of the signals, taken thousands of miles apart, using atomic clocks for synchronizing the recordings.

    If you were to send radar pulses onto the moon surfaces and watched the returned signal with several radio telescopes all around the world, I am pretty sure that you could recognize the shape of the moon lander descent stage on the moon's surface. Possibly even the rover and the other equipment they left behind.

    But who would want to fund such a huge thing, especially considering that scientists don't usually doubt that there has been a moon landing.

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