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Astra 1K Communications Satellite now Space Junk

bachelor#3 writes "Astra 1K, which was to replace 3 other satellites, didn't make it. Launch services were being provided by International Launch Services. Here's a timeline, from T-minus 30 minutes onwards."

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  1. Alcatel. by penguin_punk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seeing as it was made by Alcatel Space and Alcatel just axed another 10,000 jobs yesterday (or the day before?) Do you think it was a sign? I'm just a conspiracy nut.

    (ddaadaataaday! wee! look at me, I'm waiting for my 2-minute-filter to wear! ladeedaa)

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  2. Iridium by Gary+Franczyk · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thats nothing! Compare that to Iridium, which had 66 satellites that became space junk shortly after being launched. :-)

    1. Re:Iridium by jfroot · · Score: 5, Informative

      Iridium is alive.. in fact I have an Iridium sat phone (Motorola 9505) sitting on my desk right now that I use to call our people who are away on ops. With Iridium it is much cheaper to call phone-phone. Landline LD to an Iridium phone is abour $10/min. whereas Iridium to Iridium is about $1/min.

  3. WooHOo by esac17 · · Score: 5, Funny

    MOSCOW, Russia (Reuters) -- Russia has failed to put a five-tonne European communications satellite properly into orbit and it will now circle uselessly until it eventually falls back to Earth, space officials said.

    Nice, does that mean we will have another chance at free tacos from taco bell! ??

  4. Perhaps adding this ... by Snoopy77 · · Score: 4, Informative

    would help us all know why this is so important to the /. community

    The French-made Astra satellite is the world's biggest communications satellite, with antennae spanning 37 metres. It was due to be used for radio and television broadcasts as well as for mobile telephone and Internet services in western Europe.

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  5. Contributions Anyone? by Mister_Personality · · Score: 4, Funny

    If this was done by the same folks who handle the "Rich Bastards Go To Space" missions I am more then willing to contribute to Lance Bass ticket. Either that or my tasteless, N'Synch loving kid. Makes no difference which of them ends up stranded in orbit awaiting a painful reentry just so long as SOMEONE MAKES IT STOP! Anyone else have a buck to spare to ease my plight?

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  6. Re:Space Junk is like Earth Junk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dude you are a freakin dumbass.

    Space is a LOT bigger than earth. Like 10 times bigger or something... at LEAST!

  7. Not good. by carlmenezes · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The second failure in 25 launches. That's a success rate of 92%? That's also a 1 in 13 chance of failure with multi-million dollar equipment.

    T+plus 6 minutes. Second stage separation should have occurred, followed by third stage ignition. However, ILS has stopped its live commentary to show a video. We'll provide any additional information on the actual flight performance as it becomes available.

    Problems started here maybe?

    T+plus 8 minutes. Confirmation has now been received that the second stage engines shut down, the spent stage was jettisoned and the third stage has ignited. Also, the payload fairing enclosing the Astra 1K spacecraft atop the rocket has separated.

    seems ok...

    T+plus 10 minutes. The third stage burn should have been completed by now, followed by separation from the Block DM upper stage. However, no word has been received from ILS.

    Looks like ILS noticed trouble brewing here and were trying to redeem the situation... .. ...

    FAILURE. International Launch Services has announced that the second burn of the Block DM upper stage suffered an anomaly, failing to deliver the Astra 1K spacecraft into the proper orbit tonight.

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  8. It's a conspiracy! by bcwalrus · · Score: 5, Funny

    You can't even send a satelite to its orbit, and you're telling me that we landed on the thing called "moon"?!

  9. Re:Secretivity... by Skater · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Hubble was at least fixable. What about Challenger and the whole unit conversion fiasco? Those were much worse problems--at least we could do something about Hubble and not waste the money getting it up there.

    It's sad to see so much money and effort put into these satellites, only to have something go wrong and have it all for naught. It's too bad there isn't some way to recover the satellite or push it into its intended orbit. (I wonder what insurance policies are like on satellites, if they're even available.)

    On the other hand, we have to remember that nothing is perfect in human endeavors. When this happens, the best we can do is learn from our mistakes and then move on. Certainly NASA is more careful about O-rings than they used to be.

    --RJ

  10. A little perspective, please by Siriaan · · Score: 5, Funny

    You see, it goes like this: Space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely mind-bogglingly big it is. You may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space.

  11. Lifetime Launch Vehicle Reliability by Rareul · · Score: 5, Informative

    These are applicable statistics taken from: faa.gov

    Table 5. Lifetime Vehicle Reliability Rates

    Vehicle-----Launch Attempts----Reliability
    Atlas 1 & 2------49---------------95.9%
    Delta 2----------73---------------98.6%
    Delta 3-----------1----------------0.0%
    Ariane 4---------81---------------96.3%
    Ariane 5----------2---------------50.0%
    Proton----------254---------------89.4%
    Soyuz-----------958---------------99.3%
    Long March-------54---------------90.7%

    (Source: STAR Database, October 14, 1998)

    ?sp

  12. Astra 1k (I'm trashed and just dreaming...) by inode_buddha · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Does anyone think there's a chance to recue this mission with the next several US shuttle launches in exchange for a mostly ready-made comms platform aboard the International Space Station? If yes, why? If no, why not? This could be a very valuable contribution to the ISS from the USSR, given their current difficulties otherwise, IMHO.

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  13. Re:"No Danger" by MacAndrew · · Score: 4, Informative

    I think the "pebbles" terminal velocity would be a lot less than 200 mph. Indeed, the old story about pennies cracking the sidewalk around the Empire State Building turns out to be UL. Here is an account of objects falling with and without air.

    But a perversely arrow-shaped piece of debris that did not tumble, that could be bad news. Then you just have to rely on statistics.

    Trivia: the Shuttle SRB casing fall at about 350 MPH without parachutes, and 50 MPH with. Hey, I was curious....

  14. To Russia With Love by Orne · · Score: 4, Funny

    A Russian State Commission is being formed to determine the reasons for the anomaly.

    If there's one thing the United States taught Russia right about our form of democracy, it's bureaucracy...

  15. Re:Cheaper? by Dunark · · Score: 5, Informative

    The shuttle can't reach geosynchronous orbit, which is where the satellite is supposed to be.

  16. Space Salvage Rights by herbierobinson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If somebody else went up and fixed it, who would own the satellite?

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