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MS Asking Makers of 'Windows' Software To Rename

An anonymous reader writes "Today WebWereld is running a story (http://www.webwereld.nl/nieuws/13347.phtml) on Microsoft's attempts to stop other software makers from using 'Windows' in their names. Several software makers that are listed on the Lindows-list (http://www.lindows.com/lindows_home_list.php) have received a letter from Microsoft's lawyers. Basically Microsoft asks them to stop using the word 'Windows.' Windows Commander and Windows Spy have changed name as the result. Christian Ghisler (of Windows Commander) changed the name into Total Commander and Sureshot changed the name of Windows Spy into Farsighter. Alexander Tchirkov of Windows Backup Wizard also received a letter from Microsoft, but he is not willing to change the name of his software, he tells WebWereld. 'I received a letter from attorneys Microsoft (SEED Intellectual Property Law Group) with the recommendation to change the program name into Backup Wizard for Windows(R).' Tchirkov says Windows is not a registered trademark in Russia."

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  1. Why dont we just call it ALL windows... by joelwest · · Score: 5, Funny

    The problem is that the word 'Windows' can be used for those transparent panes of glass. I suggest we rename them to "Gates Holes" as in The microsoft building has HUGE Gates Holes.

    Joel "Windows" West

    1. Re:Why dont we just call it ALL windows... by Mechanik · · Score: 2, Funny

      The problem is that the word 'Windows' can be used for those transparent panes of glass. I suggest we rename them to "Gates Holes" as in The microsoft building has HUGE Gates Holes.

      Then people will think Bill Gates is the goatse.cx guy, and we'll all be sued for libel.

      Mechanik

  2. Company names too by wackybrit · · Score: 3, Funny

    This reminds me of the case of MS against numerous local double-glazing companies (formerly known as 'Colorado Windows', 'Joe's Windows' and 'Windows Windows Windows').

    The outcome of that case actually resulted in a proposal to Merriam-Webster to introduce a new alternative spelling of 'window' to 'whindow'. The M-W took up the offer as they like to change any words possible from British English for superiority reasons.. so now if you look it up, you'll see 'whindow' listed there.

  3. "Boost your Windows reliability!!!" by Jacco+de+Leeuw · · Score: 3, Funny

    If only Microsoft would send their lawyers after those WinFix spammers...

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  4. Watch out folks by OrangeSpyderMan · · Score: 5, Funny

    These people have it coming! :-)

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  5. Re:How about XWindows? by spakka · · Score: 4, Funny
    Nobody is going to say "hey look, there's something called XWindows, let's installit on my windows PC because it might be useful".

    Well they say "hey look, there's a newsgroup called comp.windows.x - maybe someone can tell me how to use Outlook Express."

  6. Re:Getting out of hand by mark_lybarger · · Score: 1, Funny

    and Apple is any better with their Aqua based idesktop which lots of ipeople are switching to because it just iworks?

    at least in the open source software we can kompletely get away from that ans use uber obfuscated names such as; QT, KDE, kalkulator, kalendar, and konrol panel to name just a few.

    Who hasn't had this conversation in a modern workplace?
    me.

  7. What about Windex? by DJ_Goldfingerz · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now would M$ add windex to the list?

    I mean it is a windows product ;-)

    Not windex, windex!

  8. Tune in tonight for... by DahGhostfacedFiddlah · · Score: 3, Funny
    Your Rights Online: But what about the glassblowers?
    Posted by Hemos on Friday, November 29, @7:32PM
    from the 500-pound-gorilla-named-Steve dept.
    Clevername writes "It's not like we didn't see it coming. Micro$oft has apparently decided once again that all our Windows are belong to them. This time they're attempting to stop the use of the word Windows in all software packages but their own. This has affected such software packages as Total Commander (nee Windows Commander) and Farsighter (nee Windows Spy). When will the madness end? Another reader pointed us to this list of potential targets. Will I have to start getting Microsoft's prmission to rennovate my house?

    ( Read More... | 4 of 330 comments | Your Rights Online

  9. Re:How about XWindows? by helix400 · · Score: 5, Funny
    How about X Windows?

    I think the article plainly answered this question when they said:

    "Microsoft heeft diverse makers van software met in de naam 'Windows' gevraagd om een andere naam te kiezen."

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  10. How can you trademark a word? by Lokist · · Score: 2, Funny

    A door is a door... Plural its "Doors"... A window is a window... Plural its ....Guess we have to rename that one don't we... Hey buddy... Go over there and open those windowetts.

  11. Famous last words by EMH_Mark3 · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Tchirkov says Windows is not a registered trademark in Russia."

    Heh.. I hope he doesn't plan to ever come to the US :)

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  12. Re:How about XWindows? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Because apparently dumbass newbie user who doesn't know how to use Outlook happens to know what usenet is...

  13. Re:Yes, Windows is a common term by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    and other news, somebody should register 'boot', 'clothing', 'mouse', 'monitor', 'vodka' , 'volume lever' & et c &etc &etc, and all other every day words.

  14. I have the answer... by Nefrayu · · Score: 5, Funny

    As any avid /.er knows already, we can from here on out refer to any incarnation of Windows (software, automotive, or building portal) as a "security hole."


    "Dear ___,
    Please cease and desist the use of the phrase "security hole" as this is a registered trademark of the Microsoft corporation. As is well known throught the international community, we make the biggest and best security holes, and wouldn't want people to confuse your small, easily fixable holes with our more presigious, gaping security holes (heretofore refered to as "new features" and/or "Outlook") in all of our software products.
    Thank you for your time.

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  15. How to say "Windows" by msquadrat · · Score: 3, Funny
    Microsoft very clearly tells you how not to say "Windows" and the right way to call it:
    Incorrect
    When you start up Windows, click on the...
    Correct
    When you start up Microsoft® Windows® operating system, click on the...
    They must have interesting keyboards in Redmond, typing "®" in their everyday correspondence...
  16. Re:Make your own name by david_g · · Score: 5, Funny

    kYou gKnow, gI'm kGlad gMost kOpen gSource kDesktop gProgram kDevelopers gAre kPretty gOriginal kWhen gChoosing kTheir gProgram kNames.

  17. Re:How about XWindows? by Andrewkov · · Score: 2, Funny

    Better make sure you're wearing an asbestos suit before asking that question...

  18. Re:Getting out of hand by Jippy_ · · Score: 5, Funny

    If this stuff pisses everyone off, why doesn't everyone write to Microsoft instead of bitching on Slashdot? Bitching on Slashdot gets you nowhere.

    Dear Microsoft.

    Your product names are too ambiguios. Please change them now.

    Signed,
    Some angry slashdot reader.


    That's what our emails look like to Microsoft. They could care less. At least on Slashdot we get karma points.

  19. Re:How about XWindows? by Negatyfus · · Score: 5, Funny

    So what does the W stand for? :)

  20. In related news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    All major real estate agents in the US have received letters from Microsoft lawyers suggesting they replace all references to 'windows' with 'optical apertures'. So how many optical apertures are there in your bedroom?

  21. This Sucks! by spoonist · · Score: 5, Funny

    I amd the recipient of one of these letters. Here's the deal:

    I was told to stop using the term Windows(tm) in conjunction with my home improvement project. I was informed that now I have to call the items openings especially in the wall of a building for admission of light and air that is usually closed by casements or sashes containing transparent material (as glass) and capable of being opened and shut .

    This has put a real crimp in my dealings with my contractor. They think I'm crazy for using such a long phrase when a common word would suffice.

    Is that insane, or what?

  22. Re:Getting out of hand by Jim+Norton · · Score: 5, Funny

    So one day I was sitting in my home-[censored due to patent infringement], counting my [censored] when all of the sudden I read this story on Slashdot telling me that my science [censored] infringes on their intellectual property rights. Obviously Microsofts lawyers [censored] in finding new ways to annoy people.

    This story is stupid on so many levels, but I can't think of an adequate [censored] to describe it ...

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  23. This just in � by Snork+Asaurus · · Score: 5, Funny
    Popular Canadian rock group Rush has received a letter from Microsoft's lawyers, directing them to cease and desist selling their 1985 album under the title "Power Windows". Several hundred other artists (some of whom are dead) received similar letters ordering them to remove the word "Windows" from their song titles.

    The RIAA rushed to the artists' defense and had this to say: "Bug off".

    A court battle of unprecedented magnitude and length is expected to follow as the two Titans square off.

    Elsewhere in the news ...

    - a worldwide shortage of lawyers is forecast for the next 5 years for obvious reasons

    - Webster's dictionary is bracing itself for a legal battle with Microsoft for including some definitions of the word "Windows" other than "An inexpensive and secure computer operating system from the philanthropic people at Microsoft (All praise Microsoft!) that should by law be the only operating system allowed on any computer".

    - Home Depot has been requested by Microsoft stop advertising "We Sell Windows" and are evaluating a suggestion from Microsoft that they instead advertise "Well Sell Transparent or Semi-Transparent Glass Coverings for Holes Often Found In The Sides of Buildings and Other Structures That Usually Allow The Passage Of Some Degree Of Light"

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  24. Re:How about XWindows? by tigertigr · · Score: 2, Funny

    When can we expect Y Windows to be released?

  25. Re:"Microsoft Windows" by IXI · · Score: 3, Funny

    but I have a hard time seeing a judge buying it.

    If the judge doesn't buy it, M$ will buy the judge.

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  26. Re:How about XWindows? by IXI · · Score: 5, Funny

    When can we expect Y Windows to be released?

    Don't we have it already? Everytime I see a Windows PC I ask myself "Y Windows?"

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  27. Selling you house? by Openadvocate · · Score: 2, Funny

    Also, if you are selling your house, you can no longer use the term Windows, you now have to call them "looking holes" or "those things made of glass"

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  28. New Infidel of Ye Olde naming convention. by Kashif+Shaikh · · Score: 3, Funny

    According to the Jargon File [tuxedo.org], it was so named because it was the successor of an earlier window system called "W".

    In the beginning there was 'B', then came from it 'C'. Followed by C++, which is technically 'D'(stemming from the ++ operator).

    Unfortunately an infidel has broken the 'ye olde code of law' and mistified everyone with C#. How does C# follow? Is it from C? or is it from C++?

    Rather, the infidel has created a bastard language after sipping some java!

  29. National Fenestration Council by Animats · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's not a joke. The window industry's trade association is called the National Fenestration Rating Council.

  30. Re:MS wasn't *that* stupid by Dan+Ost · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hmm...Super Windows...sounds like good fodder
    for a Simpsons episode.

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  31. I just saw a TV commercial with Dick Van Patton by SensitiveMale · · Score: 3, Funny

    selling some product called 'Hole in wall with glass'.

  32. What Next? "Word"?... by The+Monster · · Score: 4, Funny

    The English word 'Word', when capitalized, has been associated with Jesus Christ since at least the time of King James. I doubt that even Microsoft's attorneys are dumb enough to go there... The thought of ministers preaching that they are part of some kind of Satanic machinations in response should be sufficent to keep them from pulling that one.

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  33. Ha ha! Delicious schadenfreude! by Sloppy · · Score: 4, Funny
    I love this! I think it's wrong, but I still love it anyway. I guess that makes me a spiteful pervert or something.

    These people supported that proprietary platform and tied their fates to it and -- gosh, who would expect it? -- suddenly their, ahem, "partner" is trying to ram a pitchfork up their asses! Oh yes, bite the pain!.

    Several years ago, Microsoft changed the license on their NT Workstation product so that it was only allowed to have a certain number of connections. Tim O'Reilly wrote a frustrated "open letter" whining about it, and it was funny the same way this story is. All that hard work that other companies put into legitimizing Microsoft's products, only to be stabbed in the back ... what a shame (*snicker*). Unfortunately, Microsoft caved in back then. I hope that by now they are arrogant enough to fight to the bitter end.

    Few things give me as much pleasure as seeing Windows developers getting screwed by Microsoft. Oh, the crushed dreams, the shattered hopes and businesses, the shocked expression of pain and betrayal, ooh, is it getting warm in here?

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  34. Re:Getting out of hand by lvdrproject · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... Fuck, i knew i should've refreshed the page before i posted that. I failed, i'm sorry. :/

  35. The mistake is made in reading. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Mistake "Microsoft Windows" -> Winclows
    "Microsoft Winc" "lows "

  36. And Defenestration by Martin+Spamer · · Score: 3, Funny


    And defenestration is the act of throwing someone or something out of a window. Usually because I've been thrown out of Windows by a BSOD.