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HOWTO: Annoy a Spammer
Bob writes "I think everyone by now has heard of the millionaire spammer Alan Ralsky. Here's a follow-up to the previous story. It seems that since the story was posted, people have signed him up for every advertising campaign and mailing list out there. And he doesn't like it." They're talking about this Slashdot story.
I'm such an anonymous coward. Here's the address.
Alan M Ralsky
6747 Minnow Pond Dr
West Bloowfield Township, MI 48322-2663
Robert Harrison & Assoc
2550 S Telegraph Rd # 275
Bloomfield Hills, MI
248-253-1800
Public info.
If you want to help, head over to htpp://www.spamhaus.org or more info on Ralsky directly at: http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/search.lasso?evidenc efile=1290
More importantly, who has his lawyer's address?
Robert S. Harrison
Bloomfield Office Pavilion
2550 Telegraph Road, Suite 275
Bloomfield Hills, MI 48302
That's not the right address. That's his old address. I believe the new one is on Minnow Pond in the same city.
Speak truth to power.
Straight from google:
Robert Harrison
(248) 253-1800
2550 S Telegraph Rd
Bloomfield Hills, MI 48302
Yahoo! Maps
MapQuest
What is more, these adresses get posted into Usenet *.test groups. These newsgroups get harvested like crazy, with spam incidents occuring only a few days after posting and hitting several times per day. Since there is no obligation to use realnames for *.test postings, the most effective way to have spammers spam each other is using their addresses as sender ("From" header).
A few weeks ago a 419 scammer annoyed some members of the German anti-spam community with his crap. Usually most 419 scammers spamvertize their email address within the email body, Reply-To or even From. As his address seemed to be valid (to receive answers of fool^Wcustomers), we posted it into quite some *.test newsgroups. A day later, someone with a Nigerian IP address answered "don't mess around with us, read ya". Followup was "Oh, you're spamming each other? Here is some more food" and a list with hundreds of spammer's and spamfriendly people's email addresses.
The occurrence frequency of 419 scam has actually declined since then.
Also included in the article was a blurb about a guy sending a fedex package to Santa Claus, North Pole. Fedex actually delivered it... to Snowmass, CO. Signed for by: S CLAUS
"And like that
Here is a distributor of said product
Oh... That I didn't know, does anyone have his new address?
BTW - Mods, MOD MY OTHER POST DOWN, it was WRONG.
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Sorry, I should have identified that the middle section is a spammers "defense" of their actions.
I still don't see legal aciton going anywhere.
The actual address was originally posted at http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=45801&cid=4737 646
by an Anonymous Coward
Post quoted below
Ok.. Heres more details on Ralsky's address (courtesy of www.lexisnexis.com -- its nice being a law student)
Buyer: ALAN M RALSKY
Buyer Mailing Address:
6747 MINNOW POND DR, WEST BLOOMFIELD, MI 48322
Seller: BING CONSTRUCTION CO
Property Address: 6747 MINNOW POND DR, WEST BLOOMFIELD, MI 48322
Sale Date: 8/28/2002
Recorded Date: 9/12/2002
Sale Price: $ 740,000 (Full Amount)
By the way, the patrick road address listed in the other sellers post was sold in 2001 first to Irmengard Ralsky and then to Dan Shammami for $265K
...that is, if you need an attourney in the Bloomfield Hills, MI area. His atty's addy is:
rsh@rharrisonplc.com
From the State Bar of Michigan Website
Robert S. Harrison - P14691
Robert Harrison & Assoc
240 E Merrill St
Birmingham, MI 48009-6106
Phone: (248) 253-1800
Fax: (248) 253-9446
E-mail: rsh@rharrisonplc.com
(Birmingham is 1.5 miles from Bloomfield)
You seem to be sarcasm impaired. The post you replied to was playing devil's advocate for why this gentleman seems unable to understand why what he's doing is wrong.
My username does not make me Apathetic. It's irony, get it?
Robert Harrison (the lawyer that is charged with suing evil conspiring slashdotters) has his website here:
http://harrisonlaw.leadcounsel.com/
It seems an error is generated every time I try to access his site...
As a side note-
We should get all the snail-mail addresses of the major spammers and fight back! One free offer can make a difference...if it's from 20,000 slashdotters!
-macshune-
I heard her whining on Morning edition yesterday about how put out she has been since they ran an article about her in the WallStreet Journal...
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'Spam Queen' Defends Direct Marketing Via E-Mail
(Morning Edition Audio) Dec. 3, 2002
Direct marketer Laura Betterly speaks to NPR's John Ydstie.
Laura Betterly
717 Weathersfield Dr
Dunedin , FL
(727) 733-5335
Data Resource Consulting Inc.
Remember she has a 5,000-square-foot home, with a pool and a Lexus just begging to be filled with your cards and letters. original slashdot posting
Wall Street Journal Story
other mentions:
http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/shownotes/stor
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/mon/business
http://www.angrywhitegirl.com/weblog/weblog.php
Robert Harrison, (248) 253-1800, 2550 S Telegraph Rd, Bloomfield Hills, MI 48302
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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=
Cypherpunks: Civil Liberty Through Complex Mathematics. Those who live by the sword die by the arrow.
In this case, no one is trying to obtain money or property. Hence, no mail fraud.
Here we go. Please note: None of the postal addresses have been finally verified to belong to this spammer! So please Don't register some innocent guy for something or send them "presents". Many thanks.
That said:
Alan M Ralsky
6747 Minnow Pond Dr
West Bloomfield Township, MI 48322-2663
Alan Ralsky
5016 Patrick Rd
West Bloomfield, MI 48322-1543
Phone: (248) 661-5166
Robert Harrison & Assoc
2550 S Telegraph Rd # 275
Bloomfield Hills, MI
248-253-1800
Alan Ralsky
5016 Patrick Rd
West Bloomfield , MI (248) 661-3355
West Bloomfield , MI (248) 661-5166
Al Ralsky
RX Point National Sales Director
<al@rxpoint.com>
RxPoint
5016 Patrick Drive
West Bloomfield, Mi 48322
1-888-531-4793
<info@rxpoint.com>
Alan Ralsky
PO Box 89
Fort Smith, AR 72903
Birmingham
836 Mohegan St., $740,000 (price of the house)
MI 48009-5667
All of this information was taken from publically available Internet sites.
42. Easy. What is 32 + 8 + 2?
...is the poor postal people who have to deliver it. Remember, their last mile is human :)
He should just be glad that no one has been filling out all those Subscription cards in his name asking them to "Bill Me Later". Someone did this to me in college and our house got the most vile magazines/porn/crap for like 6 months. Luckily, it was just one person doing this to us and the damage was easily controlled. I can imagine what would happen if let's say 10,000 pissed off SysAdmin's and Hackers around the world all did this.
He might not even see the billing invoices and cancel the trials, man those bill collection agencies can be a real bitch too.
That would suck almost as much as spam.
DaveC
There are no stupid questions...just stupid people.
When one signs up for a mailing list with a slightly different name then one gets double/triple/you get the idea the amount of important marketing information which may be useful to you.
I like to use alternate middle initials or spellings on my first or last name...
"How is sending commercial e-mail any worse than the annoying phone calls you get during dinner or letters from Publishers Clearing House saying you've won millions of dollars from Ed McMahon?" Harrison said.a 01 -553425.htm
-- August 4, 2002
http://www.detnews.com/2002/technology/0208/04/
I think you meant Robert S. Harrison or was it this link.
This has been educational. I didn't know Slashdot accepted mailto: URLs.
It's mail fraud and a Federal Offense.
You're right, it is, and that's a protection that email should enjoy as well.
No, it should not.
Mail fraud is a federal offense because it misuses a FEDERAL SERVICE. That gives the government a nexus to come down on it in a draconian fashion - and also to come down on OTHER uses of the service, like for speech the government doesn't like (i.e. porn). Try to protect email as MAIL and you let the federal censorship camel's nose into the tent.
The way email SHOULD be protected is the same way your fax machine is protected against unsolicted faxes.
The cases are virtually identical: The email and fax spammers both misuse a private interstate communication network to consume your resources (connect time, machine time, fax paper/disk space, eyeball time, etc.) without your permission, reducing its utility and sometimes delaying or causing the loss of other, solicted messages.
Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
Some 800 numbers just forward you to a 976 or other billable number once your connected... Ms Cleo for example.
Just because it's an 800 doesn't make it safe.
In third world countries, yes. Some places have discovered a marvel of science and nature known as antibiotics. Syphilis is a bacterium and is killed by antibiotics.
The Internet is full. Go away.
Snail mail is a bit harder to get rid of though because there is no Procmail equivalant
If the junk mailers are getting especially obnoxious, you can file a Form 1500 with the USPS. Makes it illegal for them to keep mailing you.
I pledge allegiance to the flag...
of the Corporate States of America...
Mission Accomplished??? NOT! He's hired an attorney. WELL...
a. how many of the people close by have enough legal coverage to take him to small claims court for productivity and other quantifiable losses due to HIS spam? (legal spam)
b. time to MapQuest another name:
Ralsky is indeed annoyed. He says he's asked Bloomfield Hills attorney Robert Harrison to sue the anti-spammers.
Gentlemen, ladies, another fit target for your search-and-debilitate methods. Let it be known that it's not safe to support a spammer.
My opinion, of course. Not that I'd EVER advocate antisocial or illegal actions...
All the bounces would do is victimize (for a second time) the stupid people around the world who run insecure servers.
Being the arch-criminal that he is, Ralsky knows to break into servers outside of the United States, this way he thinks he is immune from prosecution under Title 18 of the federal computer crimes act. Funny thing is, this law doesn't really say where the computer someone breaks into has to be located. So we can all hope that one day he spams some federal attorney who will go after he, his family and his house!
Wonder how he'd feel? Well, one could ICQ him and ask! Maybe you can get him to tell you how he's avoided being procecuted in his own state for violating the "Michigan Computer Law"