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Farscape to Return? Is Sci-Fi Channel Redeemed?

Cyno01 writes "I was just watching Firefly and switching to Taken during commercials (i'm a thief i know), and I caught a commercial for Sci-Fi 2003. It looks like there's going to be a few new actual sci-fi shows, and some not. Tremors: The Series, Children of Dune and another talkshow-esq looking thing called The Dream Team with Annabelle and Michael. Also it looks like Stargate: SG1 and yes, Farscape, are still alive and kicking."

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  1. Tremors The SerieS!!!! by puto · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nooo lord please no.... I am puring kerosene in my eyes now.

    Putp

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    1. Re:Tremors The SerieS!!!! by grub · · Score: 3, Funny


      Tremors: The Series
      Season 1, Episode 1


      [town hick]
      Whoa Sher'f, y'all feel that tremor? Felt sorta like one o' them big ol' worms..
      [sheriff] naw, them worms 're all kil'd off..
      .
      . much later
      .
      .
      Season 13, Episode 9

      [town hick]
      Whoa Sher'f, y'all feel that tremor? Felt sorta like one o' them big ol' worms..
      [sheriff] naw, them worms 're all kil'd off..


      unbelievable

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  2. possibly by RobertTaylor · · Score: 5, Informative

    Why no link directly to the latest farscape news? Or perhaps the Cancellation FAQ and get some real facts!

    A novel concept for /. no doubt ;)

    1. Re:possibly by StormcallerESC · · Score: 3, Informative

      Because there is no latest Farscape news there, and the cancellation FAQ is out of date and, for the most part, PR propoganda. For some real up to date news and facts, try savefarscape.com.

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  3. Farscape by cat_jesus · · Score: 4, Informative

    Is still canceled.

    1. Re:Farscape by Photon+Ghoul · · Score: 5, Informative

      Exactly. Just because they are still promoting the final episodes of the series does not mean that it is now back in production. They are simply trying to squeeze what they can out of the rest of their investment by promoting the last of the season.

      *mumbles something about a Slashdot story based off of some guy's malinformed impression of a TV commercial he saw as he was swapping back and forth between two shows*

    2. Re:Farscape by Photon+Ghoul · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Firefly started off, in my opinion, extremely boring. I continued watching it because there isn't much else on television that is science-fiction and I don't like Trek at all.

      The last two or three episodes have become interesting. I'll miss the dark feel of Farscape and will never get over the western feel of Firefly... but if it actually makes it for a few seasons this may prove to be a very interesting ride.

    3. Re:Farscape by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 4, Funny

      The last two or three episodes have become interesting.

      Interesting? Is that the best you can do? Did you even watch "War Stories?"

      Zoe: Hold it, Jayne. This is something the captain's gotta do for himself.

      Mal: (fighting, muffled) No, it's not!

      Zoe: Oh. (everybody opens fire)

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    4. Re:Farscape by Photon+Ghoul · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yes and it is probably the episode that got me to think that "okay this series will keep getting better". To me "interesting" is a very good compliment for television programming because I can't stand and do not watch it. Farscape was the only thing I watched regularly. I generally don't watch TV (I only wanted cable for Farscape) because not much of it is appealing enough for me to sit and stare at a box fed programming by people that only think of me as another set of eyeballs for their advertisers.

      I like the character development of Firefly, as it's progressing *very* nicely. I like the humor and there is enough action to balance things out. There are also no punches pulled when it comes to the dirty and bloody things that they go through. And for the drooling-needs-sex-badly-"boobies!" set there was a great woman-woman kissing scene last night. Although you will be dissapointed because it was done in good taste (network TV and all that).

      The western theme is a serious negative for me, though. So much, that when I hear the theme song I wonder if it's really a show I want to watch.

    5. Re:Farscape by edo-01 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Interesting? Is that the best you can do? Did you even watch "War Stories?" Zoe: Hold it, Jayne. This is something the captain's gotta do for himself. Mal: (fighting, muffled) No, it's not! Zoe: Oh. (everybody opens fire)

      I *love* this show - the exact moment I fell in love was at the end of the first episode, when Mal kicked the bad-guy into the engines - my eyes bugged out and I literally nearly spat coke over the screen.

      Firefly has excellent production values (look at 'Ariel' - that episode looks like a feature film for chrissakes), the VFX are exquisite, and I say that with all due jealousy and admiration:-)

      I'm constantly delighted and surprised by every episode and have yet to see one I haven't enjoyed (and I *hate* westerns)

    6. Re:Farscape by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 3, Interesting

      And for the drooling-needs-sex-badly-"boobies!" set there was a great woman-woman kissing scene last night.

      "Our Mrs. Reynolds" actually had a much hotter girl-girl scene, although nothing happened. It was all steamy eye-contact and double entendres and whatnot. Hot as fire, though.

      The western theme is a serious negative for me, though.

      Matter of taste, I suppose. Personally I love it. Such a refreshing change from the aseptic Star Treks and the wormholes-and-wacky-aliens Farscape.

      I guess it all comes down to bullets for me. Although I didn't plan it this way, I've found that I will watch any sci-fi show where they use bullets instead of laser guns or whatever. "Firefly" and "Stargate SG-1" are my two big ones these days.

      I particularly liked Zoe's little side-comment to Simon last night, as she handed him a revolver. "Six shots, the drop it. Just move on."

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    7. Re:Farscape by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 3, Informative

      I am hearing rumors of firefly being cancelled, or are they just rumors?

      The Straight Shit:

      Firefly has been placed on hiatus. What that means is that Fox has not ordered any additional episodes beyond the ones (15, I think) that have already been produced. This does not mean the show has been cancelled; when a show goes on hiatus, that means the network is trying to figure out what their next step should be. They can move the show to another night, or re-tool it somehow with the cooperation of the producers, or they can just give up on it completely. The decision has not been made yet.

      I believe that Fox knows the show is in a timeslot-of-death. Friday night at 8:00 is not a particularly fertile ground in which to plant the seed of an hour-long, serious, continuity-heavy, science-fiction drama. So the prevailing opinion is that Fox is going to find a new night and time for the show. The leading candidate as of a few days ago was Monday night at 9:00, but rumors have surfaced around the office lately that they're considering Thursday night at 8:00, opposite "Survivor" and "Friends."

      Moving Firefly to a new timeslot would be good, and an easy fix. A somewhat harder fix might come if the network decides to go to M.E. with notes. Joss doesn't typically respond well to notes. He's a reasonable guy and all, but he's not big with the compromising of his vision. See, Joss is a thinker, and he's already got most everything he wants to do with Firefly for the next year or two planned out in his head. If Fox comes in with notes that say, "Drop three main characters and introduce a romantic interest for the captain," he'll probably not be too agreeable. At that point, M.E. has the option of either going along to get along, closing down the show, or shopping it around to another network. And they're not in the greatest position to shop it around to another network right now.

      But the bottom line is that Firefly has metric assloads of critical acclaim, and a positively rabid fan-base. Fox knows that it's possible to take a little show with a few dedicated fans and turn it into a hit: see X-Files, The. They're not in any big hurry to cancel the show until they're sure it's not going anywhere.

      For evidence of this, just think about David E. Kelly's last show, "Girls' Club." Fox dropped that particular hot potato after only two episodes aired. They knew that the show was going nowhere, and had no particular hopes of saving it. So they cut their losses. The fact that they haven't done this with Firefly is reassuring in the extreme.

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  4. Farscape by zaren · · Score: 4, Informative

    Don't forget that they finished shooting the rest of hte shows for this seasn, and SciFi has stated that they will be releasing those shows starting in January. It's possible they're going to continue the series... then again, it's possible they're just using the material they have left, with no intention to continue the series past the new episodes they've shot.

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  5. Only the remainder of Farscape... by CuriousKangaroo · · Score: 4, Informative
    They're only going to be showing the still unaired last half of the fourth season of Farscape.

    After that, it's over, ending in a helluva cliffhanger.

    No Farscape for you!

  6. I thought... by Hawkeye_RC5 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That Sci-Fi was going to air the last few episodes of Season 4 somewhere in 2003. If this is what the original poster saw, then this is a non-event.

    What would be really interesting, and my question for Santa Claus this year, is that SciFi is going for another Season of Farscape, and perhaps even more. I know, it costs a lot of money, but it's damn well the best (Sci Fi) series I've ever seen...

  7. Tremors? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What a fucking joke, a marginal movie made into a series? Spend the money on Farscape and dump this dog NOW!!!

    1. Re:Tremors? by Photon+Ghoul · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Farscape is far from a Star Trek rip-off. It may lift some elements of the classic science-fiction shows, but it's usually done as an homage or even a slightly under-the-belt punch. Star Trek was made fun of several times on the show.

      How do I know you've never actually watched Farscape?

      1. Star Trek is in a nice clean universe where everything turns out fine at the end of the episode. Crewmen wearing certain shirts die or when that practice stopped death became an almost avoided subject.
      Farscape is in a dirty, grimy universe where everything is out to get you. Major characters die. Enemies become friends... or at least necessary to trust them for a while.

      2. Star Trek deals with holographic sentience, space-time anomolies/fluxuations, omnipresent alien beings, transwarp confibulators, blah blah blah
      Farscape deals with manslaughter, death of loved ones, bounty hunters, torture, s&m, farts, piss, sexuality, emotional pain, intense love, uncomfortable situations, insanity, drug use, outright murder, seduction, loss of life on a massive scale, weapons of mass destruction, spirituality and many other more 'human' topics.

      3. Star Trek uses a little bit of makeup on every single alien actor. Thus a universe of bipeds all roughly the same body type.
      Farscape uses this method along with elaborate makeup/costumes and 'muppets' which are used to bring to life non-bipedal alien life forms or short stumpy annoying stab-you-in-the-back crew members whose farts cause a helium-like effect to those that inhale it.

      4. Star Trek's crew is composed of mostly a bunch of stuffy, by-the-book Federation employees who are all good folk working towards the good of the universe.
      Farscape's crew is composed mostly of a bunch of escaped prisoners along with a bumbling <injoke>erpling</injoke> astronaut, former antagonists, and rejects of the universe. It takes serious time and shared experiences for bonds to solidify enough that trust can be built. Everyone is looking out for number one.

      5. Star Trek is straight science-fiction historically with a political or social message to bring to the masses while having a heavy focus on the technology.
      Farscape is a dark comedy and a tragic love story that happens in a science-fiction setting.

      I could go on and on about how Farscape has innovated in the realm of television science-fiction and how it is different than Star Trek, but I won't.

    2. Re:Tremors? by erpbridge · · Score: 3, Funny
      Everyone is looking out for number one

      In Star Trek, everyone is looking out for Number One as well.

      Slight difference, however, between the two series.

  8. Great! by DAldredge · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now I can watch MUPPETS IN SPACE! again!

  9. Don't think so... by sparkler · · Score: 3, Informative

    You obviously haven't even read the very links you posted! Check out the Farscape link and you will find (sadly) that the Sci-Fi channel is just running the episodes already filmed to finish season 4! According to the FAQ, the show has been cancelled and will not be returning for another season. (They will however, undoubtedly be endlessly re-running the shows already made.)

  10. Armegedon is upon us by bryan1945 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The commercial for "Tremors: The Series" looks like a cross between the 1st Tremors movie and the "Dukes of Hazzard". The Dream thingy commercial is a bunch of women talking about how they have lesbian dreams. Stargate and Farscape seem ok, so far.

    Overall, though, Sci-Fi is really turning into Shit-Fi. I didn't mind the horror movies as much as everyone else, since I like horror movies, this past Tuesday I stayed home 'cause I was sick, and all that was on Sci-Fi was 1 mystery and 2 thrillers, with only a minor sci-fi tie in.

    Long have the days of petitioning Sci-Fi to re-up Bab5 or Crusade gone past.

    So sad.

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  11. Dream Team by thellamaman · · Score: 3, Funny

    If the preview for the truly awful-looking Dream Team is any indication, the show is going to go something like this:

    Dreamer: OK, so I had this dream last night..
    Host A: Repressed lesbian fantasies!
    Dreamer: No, wait, there wasn't even a girl in the dream!
    Host B: Repressed lesbian fantasies!
    Dreamer: I'm not even a woman!
    Host A: Repressed lesbian fantasies!

    1. Re:Dream Team by Chanc_Gorkon · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Really. I mean Annabelle was kind of funny on Dinner and Movie, but be honest, we did not really tune into see the dinner being cooked. We tuned in to SEE THE MOVIE!! Dinner and a Movie has just turned into an extra ad now with the hosts holding up a bottle of Dasani Nutri-Water or the "product" of the week. It's not even so much about the dish. Although they did come up with some fun dish names like Hail to the Chef State of the Onion Frittata for the movie The American President, or Obi-Wan Cannelloni for Star Wars. Now it seems like they either advertise an ingredient or a beverage in addition to the commercials they show also. Also the Man Made Movie thing sucks too. Granted the movies are ok, but I would rather see a Geek Made Movie where the show would show you how to build a geek friendly, yet wife friendly house with cat 5 in every room bewteen breaks of movies like Hackers and The Matrix.

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  12. You linked to Farscape Page - BUT DID NOT READ IT! by jackb_guppy · · Score: 5, Informative

    A small clip from the SCIFI-FAQ:

    Additionally, in past seasons, Farscape had built upon its lead-in program (i.e., had more viewers than the program preceding it - a standard industry indicator of a show's success). For example, during the summer of 2001, Farscape increased 44% in ratings and 51% in households over its lead-in, The Invisible Man. However, this past summer, Farscape lost 29% of its lead-in program in terms of ratings, and 27% in households.

    Based on this FarScape lost market share when SciFi cancelled I-Man. Two great campy shows work better than one.

    I guess I can not understand network programming.

    PS: When you go to the FarScape page... A pop-up about the cancelation appears. My guess it is still cancelled.

  13. Farscape by edo-01 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Well, we wrap work on the VFX for episode 422 this week, and once that's done we're archiving everything to DLT and going our seperate ways... as far as I know it's still over.

    I was at Animal Logic last week and asked our producer if she'd heard anything different from Andrew (one of the exec producers) - nada. It's all winding down - on Thursday we hit a local pub for the VFX wrap party then that's it :-(

    Anyway, at this point I'm rooting for Firefly ;-)

  14. Re:You linked to Farscape Page - BUT DID NOT READ by puto · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I agree with you. I had been living in South America for the past few years and when I got home I was looking for some Sci_Fi goodness after two years of 10 channel cable and dial up acess. So i decide to start up on farscape and caught some episodes about the invisible man and fell in love with the show.

    IT was campy sort of a mix between:

    1.Max Headroom(Edison had the brit fiora chick as a controller always a little sexual tension, invisible man has brit chick doctor.

    2. The Hulk - Ivisible man gets to much quicksilver in the system and starts bugging out.

    Edge of Night(whatever that vampire show is with Skanky and the vampire is a cop) Just like the Invisible Man he was an asshole in the past and is atoning for his sins, using his power for good, but they both lapse into old ways sometimes.

    And you know, I never really made it to Farscape, cause I liked the invisible man so much, and I didnt realize I was watching an old show.

    Puto

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  15. Sci Fi now following the Comedy Central model by frenchgates · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...imagine Comedy Central without the Daily Show: all Mannequin 2, all the time. A pageant of mediocrity and under-achievement.

    They show cheap, mostly bad sequel films out of some library of second rate productions I assume they have some kind of generic access to...like Turner Classic Movies showing the films they already own.

    Now they have canned the origial Star Trek (the only reason I watched Sci Fi) even though they have exclusive broadcast rights for the next several years.

    Basically they suck.

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  16. Farscape still has 13 episodes left by Cyberllama · · Score: 3, Informative

    It hasn't been cancelled in the sense that they won't show it anymore, just that they won't buy any new episodes. The 13 episodes slated to start airing in January are the last 13, they were the ones being finished up when the word came down that sci-fi wasn't ordering anymore.

  17. the SciFi Channel can never be redeemed. by AugstWest · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The bastards canceled MST3K.

  18. chrisd Changed The Subject by Cyno01 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    To everyone who's bitching that farscape is still cancled, what i meant by it is that it will still be on this season, with new episodes next month. If people are a little confused, my original title for this article was

    2002-12-07 02:21:20 Sci-Fi Channel's Not Dead Yet (articles,tv) (accepted)

    IMO they should keep Farscape, its one of the best Sci-Fi shows thats been on this millenium, but if they can't afford it, i guess cancling it is better then the Sci-Fi channel going bankrupt and being bought by FOX or something.
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  19. Yes! PAssivity! by MacAndrew · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yes, everyone should be passive about changing the things they care about. Let it go. We're helpless. Drifting down the stream called life.

    Hmm, that would eliminate half the posts on /. -- a real time-saver.

    Really, the model here is the rescue of Star Trek for one more season, 30+ years ago. If no one says anything SciFi will only be sure that their judgment as to its declining popularity was correct (see the FAQ). I think the fan reaction is admirable in an age where people people complain about their TV shows, and politicians, and so on, without ever doing anything about it.

    Now, if you don't like the dissensiom, "Move on." -- there are other stories to read.

  20. Re:You linked to Farscape Page - BUT DID NOT READ by simm_s · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That is somewhat of a contradiction. Why did FarScape's ratings go down after the cancellation of I-Man, but not recover while being paired with the hit series SG1? I believe the answer is that FarScape's early success had nothing to do with the fact it was paired with I-Man. Maybe, FarScape's fourth season really is not as good as the previous three seasons.

    I actually stopped watching after the third season. IMHO Farscape really does not deserve to be cancelled after one bad season. They should have just lowered the production costs of the series and released a final fifth season.

  21. From what dept? by mraymer · · Score: 3, Funny
    Hey, editors, let me clear something up...

    First off, his name is John Edward. There is no "S" in Edward. Lastly, you didn't finish it... you should have said he is a big douche. Yet, that would still be incorrect. As we all know from South Park, John Edward is the biggest douche in the universe. Also, if he really believes that dead people talk to him, then he's a stupid douche.

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  22. Children of Dune by Sayjack · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Am I the only one who is more excited about the prospect of another Dune movie? The SCIFI version of Dune was so much better than the Hollywood rendition. So much so that it was ridiculous.

    They're hitting the dryer portion of the series but it puts them a movie (2 books) closer to what I thought was the best parts of the Dune series; the latter post-God-Emperor-Leto books.

    I just hope they cast the roles of young Leto and Ghola Duncan Idaho appropriately. Dune ruined me for other science fiction in that most stuff I have read since inhaling the series seems superficial in comparison. Dune's deep plotlines which take many books to unravel.

    I'd also like to point out that the prequel novels undertaken by Frank's son Brian and sci-fi novelist Kevin J. Anderson really augmented my appreciation for how well thought out the Dune series really was. Much to my surprise, the Dune legacy is well represented by the collaboration of these two authors.

    On a side note, I don't think the studios appreciate the fact that good science fiction movies/series might not bring in the immediate blockbuster bucks at the box office, but their shelf life is much greater than the latest Schwartzeneger film for example. Sci fi buffs will watch their favorite movies every time they come on, buy the DVD and other related items. The returns don't necessarily show up immediately, but the revenue is there. It's a sign of the stock market mentality ** MAKE MONEY NOW ** with little long term strategy...

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    1. Re:Children of Dune by evenprime · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Am I the only one who is more excited about the prospect of another Dune movie?

      No, you are not the only one. I was thrilled when I saw the commercial.

      The SCIFI version of Dune was so much better than the Hollywood rendition. So much so that it was ridiculous.

      I agree wholeheartedly. The CGI worms were a bit weak in some scenes, but certainly no worse than the rendering in major studio movies like spiderman. The thing that really shined in the sci-fi channel's adaptation was the character development. There's no way to get a book like Dune into a two hour movie without slaughtering it. By using the mini-series format, Sci-Fi allowed themselves more time to include details from the book.

      A good example of this was their decision to show fremen-piloted 'thopters being used in the final battle. It's been years since I read DUNE, but I seem to remember a section in the book where Paul was shown a captured ornithopter.

      Another good thing the sci-fi channel did was to have scenes that hinted at the future, like in Paul's vision of the sand worms prior to the battle. That scene showed the dunes turning into grass-covered hills. Obviously, that meant nothing to people new to Dune, but I was thrilled that they managed to slip that in.

      Minor annoyance: I'd like to just once see a Dune adaptation with an ornithopter that takes off by flapping its wings.

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  23. It might be too late for Farscape, but not Firefly by fahrvergnugen · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Firefly's ratings for Friday Dec. 6 came in and were worse than the show's average. Unless they get a larger share soon, it's probably going to get the can in the near future.

    Say what you want about the start of the program, but this is seriously one of the highest quality shows put on broadcast TV in years. Last night had torture, severed body parts, some amazingly good masturbation jokes, execution-style murder, eastern philosophy, an assault on a space station, marital conflict, an role for each member of the ensemble cast that still managed to define and grow each character, and (at least last night) a hot lesbian sex scene.

    Also a badass schizophrenic psychic chick who was able to put down 3 commandos with 3 shots, while her eyes are shut.

    I know I'm raving here, but I need to go one further. The show revels in setting up situations like the ones you've seen in every other television show, and then cutting the moment off at the knees.

    For example: Force a woman to choose between her husband and her best friend that she's known longer and trusts more. The one left behind will be tortured to death. They've spent the whole first 20+ minutes of the episode setting up this conflict and they're due for a commercial any time now, so it's no surprise when the following exchange begins:

    Villain: "I think you can have just one. Which wou-"
    Character: "HIM!" (points at husband) "You _were_ going to ask me to choose, right?"

    The villain looks like someone just took his favorite toy away.

    Farscape may be gone, but given a chance Firefly can become just as important to the sci-fi pantheon. There's 2 episodes with definite airdates left, one of which is the (reportedly not very good) unaired pilot episode.

    Give it a watch during December and you'll be doing yourself a favor.

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