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Phoenix 0.5 Has Arrived
mattrix was among the legion of readers to submit news that "Phoenix 0.5 (Naples) has been released. New stuff since 0.4 includes multiple homepages, download fixes, history, size, memory, accessibility and performance improvements and more. Get it now for Windows or GNU/Linux (i686). Background info: Phoenix is a web browser based on the Mozilla engine, but smaller and faster than Mozilla Navigator." Multi-tab startup page seems worth the upgrade to me, all else aside.
I don't care that they think they'd be competing with Chimera, there *NEEDS* to be a Mac OS X version that's keeping up with development.
On that platform we need MORE browsers, not fewer, in the hopes that ONE will actually be good: fast, stable, compatible, and feature complete.
Mozilla is feature riddled but has compatibility issues (TrekBBS.com; MS using propietary plug-in format for WMP on Mac OS) and S-L-O-W. Chimera is fast, not entirely stable, but lacking features or their poorly implemented (History, Location bar).
I want a bolated browser when it suits me, and a stripped down "lite" version when it suits me as well. It's about choice, it's about innovation, and it's about using the product that fits your needs.
You probably won't want mozilla on an embedded device, but Phoenix will suit your needs. Plus Mozilla has been the testing ground for the coding practices, technology and design of Phoenix.
Why not have both?
You think that I'm crazy, you should see this guy!
Yeah, it doesn't have to check with windows update first, so it can get right down to business.
You think that I'm crazy, you should see this guy!
I wish the mozilla team would clean up the skins mess . I downloaded 1.2 recently and couldn't get a single downloaded skin to work. The same happened when I last downloaded phoenix a few weeks ago. I though the idea behind the 1.x release was to stabilize the APIs. If so, why is it so damned hard to have skins that work across multiple releases?
-josh
what you say is one of great importance...Mozilla is slow because of varying factors and they need to be dealt with. But more importantly (as you stated) there needs to be updated versions for all OSes.
:(
Problem being that there's a finite number of monkies that can code at a given time on a finite number of computers of which few are Macs
internet like monkeys'
Examples? Bug Reports?
If you don't tell anyone, it will never get fixed.
It's not like these two are competing technologies.
Actually, they are. Phoenix FirstView Connect is a stripped-down web browser. Mozilla.org Phoenix is a stripped-down web browser.
Phoenix is a straight up IE killer
And Phoenix Technologies' product is a straight up Pocket IE killer. So will be Gecko, once the Weenies reduce its footprint.
Will I retire or break 10K?
My home network is comprized entirely of 100-160MHz Pentium machines running Win9x. Phoenix has so far impressed me very much with it's performance and size.
It's nice to see that someone is actually making size and speed a priority rather than an afterthought, and without sacrificing functionality!
So far so good!
=Smidge=
How about creating a new section on slashdot called Software Updates. That way every little version number changed can be published and discussed. (Like with Linux Kernels, OS X Updates, Mozzila and the like updates). This way it has the advantage that more of the smaller updates can be published without taking up the main space and still keeping the discussion on the topic. And this should get rid of a lot of "Why do you post every Minor version change" comments and the like.", It also has the advantage of beeing seen for a longer time on the sub pages.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Slashdot has NEVER claimed to be unbiased. From the FAQ:
If you're not happy about that, you don't have to keep coming back.
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How did you measure 7 billionths of a processor cycle?
Do you remember when the Aqua Mozilla themes were pulled? Apple didn't want skins that LOOKED like Aqua but didn't ACT like Aqua. The real concern was Mozilla on MacOS behaving inconsistently with the GUI it imitates.
Mozilla on MacOS X now has a custom front end, native to Aqua. Chimera is dependant on the Aqua front of Mozilla. If or when Phoenix ports to MacOS X, they and Apple will want Phoenix to have a native Aqua interface.
It's kind of stinky, but it's the best name brand policy both for Apple and Phoenix on MacOS X. However, I agree with you. Phoenix is leagues ahead and above of Mozilla, Chimera, IE5.5:mac, and Omniweb, in order of 0wn4g3. MacOS X needs Phoenix.
I'm as mimsy as the next borogove but your mome raths are completely outgrabe.
As a further note -- if a story generates the usual array of comments, and if as many as half those comments are in some way related to the article, it must have "mattered" to enough of the people who come here regularly.
;)
After all, you don't have to read what doesn't interest you. Just like you don't have use IE if you don't like it. Even if Phoenix sucks and even if 0.1 releases are meaningless, it's still one more option for folk who don't like other browsers.
(See, I wasn't either off topic.
~REZ~ #43301. Who'd fake being me anyway?
See? Now was it really so hard?
If only all /. articles did not assume basic telepathy on the part of the reader.
Tim
i agree with you about using verdana over times-roman for on screen reading
however i think you got yr explanation mixed up - verdana is sans-serif (sans is french for without), and times roman is a serif font - serifs are the little things that hang off letters (like at either end of the top crossbar of a capital T in times roman) - they make a typeface more readable on very high resolution media such as paper but tend to make the typeface too 'muddy' on coarse resoultion media (such as CRTs and LCDs)
anyways, i'm sure you know all this and just mistakenly typed the wrong term - cheers