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An anonymous reader writes "Amit Asaravala over at Wired News has an interesting article up about the tree-sitters in Humboldt County. Apparently a bunch of tech activists from the Indymedia Center are setting the tree-sitters up with an 802.11b network so that they can blog about all the logging going on up there. Seems like a pretty interesting way to use technology to help the environment, which isn't something you see everyday."
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Trees sit on activists.
How far is it north of Woodbine and Steeles?
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] advice?
Date sent: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 04:34:58 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0013)
Indeed, whimsy is an open account (for posting whimsical diaries) whose password is 'whimsy'. I've contributed some diaries (principally, "I was there watching the world go by" and "How to calculate your social security income") and so have felt free to abuse the account for comment posting in Anne Marie stories. My guess is the other whimsy poster is tewl, since she posted something about "oh, I didn't realize annemarie=cp" in k5tt a while back.
I share your incredulity. Anyone who reads through k5tt would know the truth. Anyone who suspected could do a search on my (cp's) comments and see I only post in anne marie's stories. Oh well. It's fun to see rusty defend me.
--- James <spiralx@spazmail.com> wrote:
> --- =?iso-8859-1?q?I=20am=20Troll?=
> <i_am_troll@yahoo.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> >I thought that you were Whimsy? Why did you just
> out
> >yourself and then ask us to mod it down? Explain
> now,
> >or I'll moderate the comment up.
>
> Nah, Whimsy is an open account anyone can use if
> they know the password, which is lost to me, but
> could be "whimsy". So at least one other person
> remembers the password and knows that cp is anne
> marie.
>
> What I'd like to know is how on Earth has cp managed
> to keep the fact that he is Anne Marie quiet so
> well? I mean, he hardly tried to keep it quiet with
> trolltalk posts and so on, and yet very few seem to
> know who Anne Marie actually is...
>
> J
>
> P.S. I really want to smoke. Bugger. Giving up
> sucks.
(This is CP0013)
[momocrome] hmmc ion/categories/men/adventure/pages/classic1.htm :( :( :| :(/ 674/46#46 :(( :-( :-)3 368 :( :( ...3 466 :-)3 512. net) has joined #adequacy. net) has joined #adequacy :(i celess_reduced.jpg
[Sulla] I've had enough of subtlety, county
[dmg] hey tarque
[Sulla] I've had a long week
[dmg] you seem to be in belgium
[dmg] or is that brazil ?
[Sulla] isn't br brazil?
[dmg] i think so
[momocrome] microsoft MSN has parental controls with age-specific settings like 'preteen' and 'teen'.
[momocrome] it is like a menu system for pederasts
[momocrome] I guess it would work for the FBI just as well
[First_Incision] have you ever wondered who is the narc on #adequacy?
[momocrome] the two groups will be the only ones in the chatrooms marked 'safe'
[momocrome] certainly
[momocrome] it could be me!
[Mohammed_Iqbal] I WANT TO GO HOME!
*** Mohammed_Iqbal is now known as shoeboy
[shoeboy] I don't want to be at work anymore
[momocrome] take a deep breath
[momocrome] they are ripping on you in trolltalk, shoeboy
[momocrome] perhaps you can strike back and burn off a little steam
[dmg] #adequacy is not what it seems First Incision.
[dmg] You are dealing with powers that you cannot begin to comprehend.
[shoeboy] why should I care?
[Lumpen] Where is trolltalk?
[momocrome] I don't think you should 'care', per se, just a way to blow off steam I thought I'd suggest
[momocrome] http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721
[dmg] momocrome, that is top secret information.
[dmg] don't just spread it around like that.
[momocrome] gahsp!
[momocrome] my apologies. Lumpen, looks like you lucked out
[Lumpen] Oh. It's a slashdot thing. Blah.
[shoeboy] someone's been viewing my amazon.com user page
[shoeboy] hrm.. stockton's got 4 turnovers at the half
[shoeboy] fuck
[dmg] night all. Off to do some Top Secret MI6 work
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[shoeboy] oh yeah, some little nigger was ridiculing my shoes on the bus this morning
[shoeboy] that was obnoxious
[Sulla] what are your shoes like?
[shoeboy] New Ballance running shoes
[Sulla] trainers?
[shoeboy] yeah
[First_Incision] riding the bus, how communist
[Sulla] I don't blame him
[shoeboy] bah
[First_Incision] "trainers", there's a UKism for you.
[shoeboy] he was dressed like your typical urban black
[Sulla] anyone who wears trainers anywhere, though especially on a bus, deserves all they get
[First_Incision] they're sneakers, dammit. For sneaking up on the redcoats
[shoeboy] and looked like a clown college dropout
[Sulla] locally they get called sanshoes, FI, I actually thought I was using a USianism so you'd understand
[First_Incision] haha. I've actually never heard a non-UK person say trainers before.
[Lumpen] I call them "nigger boots."
[county] I think I'd just break down if some little nigger ridiculed my shoes.
[Sulla] you lot are acomplete disgrace
[county] Are we?
[First_Incision] somebody needs to ridicule my shoes. I deserve it.
[First_Incision] http://www.converse.com/shop/shop.asp?cat=sc
[county] I like my shoes.
[Sulla] Yes, county
[county] I wear black leather boots.
[First_Incision] My shoes are ugly as shit, but comfortable as heaven
[county] Mine look mighty sharp.
[Sulla] my shoes are black, leather, and constricting. They punish my feet, covering them in blisters and blood. I deserve it, though, and it is morally improving
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[county] Mine are similar, Sulla, but they don't draw blood.
*** Sulla is now known as bc
[county] Or cause blisters, really.
[county] They're stern, though.
[bc] mine really do
[bc] fucking agony, they are
[First_Incision] mine are like walking on pillows
[county] I've walked over five miles a day in mine without blisters, just soreness.
[county] When they were brand new, though, they caused blisters.
[county] I had to break them, though! And they had to break me.
[county] It was very sexual.
[bc] I do more than 5 miles usually, and by God, every step is pain
[bc] every step sends shockwaves of sheer agony around my foot and up my leg
[county] Why don't you get more comfortable shoes?
[bc] and after my ritual 5000 steps every day, I feel like a new man. I feel improved. I feel like the sin has been flushed out.
[bc] because I deserve the agony, county
[bc] I'm a bad fellow, and this is my self imposed cross
[First_Incision] http://www.panama-jack.com/havanajoe/INGLES/colec
[county] Anyway, I'm going to tell my story about female cruelty on the bus.
[bc] to bear
[county] I get on the bus with four other girls, three of them are together.
[county] I mean with four girls.
[First_Incision] I also have a pair of these that are 3 years old, I trust they will last my whole life.
[county] I'm a guy, of course. Heh.
[county] The lone girl tries to be friendly with the three, and they're quite terse and rude, and then when she gets off, they spend the next five minutes mocking her.
[county] It made me weep.
[bc] Yes. You'd never do something like that, of course.
[county] I wouldn't.
[county] She was quite pretty, too.
[county] Her face had a strange, intense look to it.
[bc] perhaps you should have recorded the conversation the girl had and slipped it into her pocket anonymously come monday
[bc] girl/girls
[county] Her voice and attitude were intoxicating in their simplicity and ingenuousness!
[county] And I will never see her again
[county] The other girls were ill-formed masses of pimpled, greasy, misshapen flesh.
[county] The soul truly is reflected in the face and body.
*** momocrome is now known as Yanni
[shoeboy] indeed
[bc] Fascinating county, but, considering that you have shown your capcity for malice here many times, I suspect that while you doubtless thought this girl pure and interesting, you in fact liked her because she was similar to yourself (the usual reason for attraction) - full of malice. I suspect the criticism of the other girls (who were likely good, and therefore opposed to you, and quite alien) was justified.
[shoeboy] this is why I can't wipe the smirk off my face no matter how hard I try
[county] I didn't see any reason to suppose this girl courted malice, bc.
[county] Anyway, I think it's been well-established that I can't take it, at all.
[county] I wouldn't be attracted to a cruel person.
* Yanni is the man for you, county
[county] Sorry, Yanni, I don't like fatties.
[Yanni] I will sooth your soul.
[Yanni] I am not fat!
[county] 225 lbs is pretty damn fat.
[Yanni] http://www.physics.drexel.edu/~kim/yanni.GIF
[bc] marry me?
[Yanni] I am intensely well muscled, by nature.
[Yanni] and at a firm 6'2", can hardly be counted amongst the fatties
[county] I'm 6'2", though.
[Yanni] you are a bean pole
[Yanni] 160 lbs?
[county] bc, I feel like such a wretched fool for not talking to this girl and getting rejected!
[county] No, more like 170-175.
[Yanni] hey, you guys want to know a secret?
[Yanni] Luisa is a man. a cowboy, no less.
[bc] The value of work is socially defined, and usually done so for the benefit of those in charge; those with the most power and influence. --Infinitera
[bc] Is he retarded????????
[county] No, he's correct.
[bc] Shut up.
[county] Also, I'd like to point out the Gun N' Roses is the best band ever.
[county] Would you hit it? http://www.cyborgasmatrix.com/
[First_Incision] that's anatomically correct? No, I would not hit it. Not even a real woman that looked like that.
[county] The face made me laugh.
[Yanni] be sure to visit the torso gallery
[county] I didn't get past the front page.
[county] I figured it couldn't get any better!
[Yanni] this is horrifying
[First_Incision] when's the Internet going to bring about the downfall of western civillization. It seems to be about time now.
[Yanni] Available
[Yanni] Now!
[Yanni] Torso with head starts at $920
[Yanni] no arms or legs with that
[county] Oh, no!
[county] It's wrong that they would sell that.
[county] The whole idea of a fake woman is ridiculous.
[Yanni] you can buy just the upper torso
[Yanni] $395 for breasts and shoulders only
[county] I wonder if they've had any takers at all.
[First_Incision] yes, county, that is why we are ridiculing it
[county] I can't imagine anyone would want it.
[Yanni] see MPG
[Yanni] video of breasts
[Yanni] being kneeded
[Yanni] 1.4 MB ]
[county] Frankly, I'm just not seeing a niche market between masturbation and actual women.
[county] Those two seem to have the demand pretty much satisfied.
[Yanni] perhaps it will become an appliance as common as a refrigerator or microwave oven
[county] For $920, you could have a girlfriend for a month or two.
[Yanni] reading into a little, these dolls talk, have articulated skeletons
[county] For $920, you could masturbate for decades!
[First_Incision] the e-conomy is all about inventing niche markets that don't exist.
[Yanni] $920 would get you 2 hours with a clean-ish whore
[county] For $920 I could buy a fancy hat that would get that wonderful bus girl to notice me.
[county] I'm having scads of fun falling in infatuation with girls from the bus. I hadn't anticipated this at all, but it's immensely enjoyable.
[Yanni] for $920 / month, you could afford a fancy enough car to get a bell town beauty
[county] Oh boy!
[Yanni] Final warning to Vladequacy. (Score:0)
[Yanni] by Anonymous Coward on 11-15-02 07:28 PM (#4683239)
[county] I hope that little feud doesn't end bloodlessly.
[First_Incision] 01,9904 01I hate it when I forget about dinner and get hungry late at night01,99
[county] Have some beans.
[First_Incision] I don't keep food stocked. I suppose I must go get some food from a local muslim late-nite eatery
[county] Why don't you keep food stocked?
[First_Incision] because I live off of fast food.
[county] Oh.
[Yanni] a med student
[Yanni] perhaps fat
[county] I buy a pre-prepared meal once each week.
[First_Incision] I have put on 15 pounds since I started.
[Yanni] Margeret Thatcher has ingested my semen. _five times_.
[county] Every Sunday, I purchase a gyro.
[First_Incision] I shall return with hommos
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[county] It seems that buying one's meals would get expensive.
[Yanni] (snicker). he said homos
[county] Do you have the Mrs. cook for you, Yanni?
[Yanni] mostly
[Yanni] i sometimes prefer to get a beef-based product though
[Yanni] she'll only do chicken if she's cooking for us
[county] Do you two ever compromise on pork?
[Yanni] Vladequacy
[Yanni] no. she doesn't like to eat mammals
[Yanni] trollaxor is gone berserk
[county] I don't eat much beef.
[county] Chicken and pork, mostly, and some lamb.
[shoeboy] cock!
[county] Don't eat much of that, no.
[shoeboy] sulla does
* shoeboy is going home
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[wsl3] Jesus H Christ, what the fuck is going on in trolltalk???
[county] Why not read it and find out?
[Yanni] I am about to post a doozy
*** Yanni is now known as momocrome
[county] What's trolltalk's URL, by the way?
[momocrome] what would be a slick way of 'proclaiming a royal blacklist' for the phoneboy cabal?
[momocrome] http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721
[county] Tell them that Vladinator is now officially displeased with them.
[momocrome] I am coming at them as the rightful King of trolltalk
[bc] ha! I got 0ed
[momocrome] because years ago, I won the battle of the sids
[bc] my post is invisible
[momocrome]
[county] =)
[county] I 0ed you.
[wsl3] heh
[bc] bastard, county
[bc] unzero me!
[county] I can't!
[momocrome] bah!
[bc] why not?
[wsl3] Yeah, tell them that Vlad's going to unleash the full power of Vladiquacy on thier asses.
[momocrome] county is hardly the 'trusted user'! ! !
[wsl3] LOL
[county] Because your post deserved a 0.
[bc] why?
[wsl3] Why on earth did they lump you guys in with me anyway?
[county] Actually, momocrome, I have a quite famous account that's trusted.
[county] I'm just telling stories, bc
[wsl3] bc - url? I'll 5 it for ballance.
[county] I haven't 0 anything in ages.
[bc] http://www.kuro5hin.org/comments/2002/11/15/17928
[bc] there
[bc] invisible
[bc] I always get picked on
[county] You were trolled by infinitera?
[county] Oh man.
[bc] who 0ed me anyway, vlad?
[wsl3] bc - I don't know - I'm no longer TU it seems thanks to those assholes.
[bc] heh
[county] I stand stride the storm, untouched by it! I will never be robbed of trustedness!
[wsl3] I shall now have to start yet another k5 account with which to gain TU back.
[county] "astride"
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[wsl3] Or rather, have Dave do it since I'm on K5 restriction.
[First_Incision] praise Allah, hommos!
[wsl3] So seriously, when did this bullshit "Vladiquacy" malarky start poping up?
[county] You're spelling it incorrectly, big guy.
[wsl3] Oh, Vladaquacy?
[wsl3] s/Vladiquacy/Vladaquacy then.
[momocrome] here, I will post my post
[county] That spelling still doesn't make sense.
[county] "Vladequacy" is the only reasonable spelling.
[momocrome] vladequacy
[county] I should know, too, for I am osm.
[wsl3] Well well well. Hello Phone Boy.
[momocrome] http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721&cid=468
[county] Hello, Vlad.
[wsl3] So it was you.
[momocrome] it will just get flooded off the page, judging by recent activity
[wsl3] Why?
[momocrome] but I have cast my lot
[wsl3] Sweet! You even posted it loged in!
[county] Why? Be more specific.
[momocrome] oh yes
[momocrome] I left you out of it
[momocrome] vlad,
[wsl3] Why did you do this? I don't recall ever even pissing you off directly. You've always been around, but we've never really bumped into one another so to speak.
[wsl3] momocrome: I'm talking to county actually.
[momocrome] bah
[momocrome] I know, and I think you are getting your chain pulled
[county] Vladinator, you're just really, really irritating. I don't know how else to put it.
[momocrome] if county is osm, I am spiralx
[wsl3] lol
[momocrome] corpus memento
[wsl3] hard to tell, he's on attbi and is cloaked (like me).
[wsl3] county: I'm not suprised that you would say that... That still doesn't prove you're OSM.
[county] Just like momocrome.
[momocrome] aww.
[wsl3] momo I know and can vouch for.
[county] I don't feel the need to prove anything. Anyway, why are you not surprised? Are you aware that most people find you extremely obnoxious?
[wsl3] county == qpt much more likely.
[wsl3] You sound like him/her/it anyway
[wsl3] momo - that was great.
[county] momocrome, you're getting hit on.
[momocrome] it is too weak
[momocrome] knee jerk
[momocrome] I have to go through the frozen lasagna in the oven. bbiab
[First_Incision] I like how Fox News doesn't respect Godwin's Law
[First_Incision] The INS is letting in illegal immigrants. They are following orders from Congress and the President. "Just like Nazi Germany"
[First_Incision] letting in immigrants, like Nazi Germany?
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[county] I really need to work up the courage to talk to one of these bus babes.
[county] They really are fantastic.
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[Sulla] blh
[county] In fact, entirely apart from the bus, I'm surrounded by babes, none of whom I talk to
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[county] What's wrong with me?
[Sulla] are you shy?
[county] I blame society.
[county] And bc.
[county] Am I shy.
[county] That's an interesting question.
[Sulla] I'm not in society?
[county] Yes and no, really.
[momocrome] ah, the real hit to my post has appeared
[county] I'm mostly just shy around women I'm attracted to.
[Sulla] so reserved rather than inhibited?
[wsl3] That latest one is too long to read...
[wsl3] We need something new in there already...
[wsl3] Hey, I know...
[wsl3]
[county] Generally, yes, Sulla.
[wsl3] Much better.
[county] And when I do talk to women I'm attracted to, I'm just biting and cutting.
[wsl3] http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721&cid=468
[county] Boy, do they have your number! ==] William Scott "Pinkrectum Floyd" Lockwood III
[wsl3] That was a dodge anyway - I've been very careful not to violate the terms of the agreement with that account.
[wsl3] It worked VERY well.
[momocrome] vlad, I'd bet you could get taco to release log data regarding these current posts
[wsl3] Nope.
[wsl3] Tried.
[wsl3] Was told they don't keep those details, and to talk to their lawyer.
[momocrome] write him again, just with the links
[momocrome] and say, look man. these are actual crimes
[momocrome] slander, harassment, etc
[momocrome] it will at least get taco into the mix
[momocrome] it would be fun to see him post to trolltalk again
[wsl3] Been there, done that. His only response was "I know it sucks, but they've done it to me too."
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[wsl3] http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=20721&cid=468
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*** spectacular_events is now known as yap
[yap] can i spill some rap in here
[wsl3] sURE
[wsl3] Why not?
[yap] maybe later
[yap] im thinking i should read up on a subject
[yap] to impress people i will meet
[yap] in the future
[wsl3] taxonomy.
[wsl3] That's a good one.
[yap] hold on
[yap] httP://www.yourdictionary.com
[wsl3] bbiab
* wsl3 &
[yap] och
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*** sleeep (~happy@dialup-65.59.59.170.Dial1.Houston1.Level3
*** sleeep is now known as luisa|||
[First_Incision] luisa awakens?
[luisa|||] no.
[county] Enter the luisa.
[First_Incision] this commercial really makes me want to go to Bermuda. It's truly effective advertising.
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[momocrome] county, so harsh!
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[First_Incision] Edmund Hilary? Pitching SUVs?
[county] Harsh, momocrome? When? How?
[momocrome] coy?
[momocrome] i see how it is!
[momocrome] you are the only person who knows I might have used to have a mustqang automobile!
[county] I'm really confused!
[momocrome] of course I realize it isn't a mustqang
[momocrome] and I suppose you aren't the only person
[county] I don't have any idea what you're talking about
[momocrome] there is a mean post in trolltalk telling me to 'go peel out in your mustang and shut the fuck up'
[momocrome] and I was being so nice.
[county] Oh.
[county] That isn't me.
[momocrome] of course
[county] However, I get the feeling that someone who hangs out in here is being nasty in trolltalk.
[momocrome] I was just hoping to drag this silly drama into slashnet. or not.
[county] I take out all my aggression on on darling little luisa.
[momocrome] it must be 70% or em!
[momocrome] you guys please don't suck like that. thanks in advance.
[momocrome] oh dear. If I am going to play in trolltalk, drink and chat in here, I really aught to pick only two.
[sleepingurl] drinking is silly
[momocrome] my apologies
*** sleepingurl is now known as luisa||||
[county] Drinking is essential.
[luisa||||] i wish i hadn't gotten home so late
[county] Why?
[luisa||||] now i can't go out carousing
[county] What were you out doing before?
[luisa||||] hanging out at a friend's house
[First_Incision] haha, I'm watching a thing on police snipers. They are shooting at baloons pulled by remote control toy trucks
[county] I am engaging in mental and emotional flagellation.
[luisa||||] my brother's in jail
[county] For what?
[luisa||||] which means he is unemployed again
[First_Incision] luisa||||: seriously? what did he do, or what is he acused of?
[luisa||||] he had a warrant
[county] If he would just go to prison, he could have a job making license plates.
[luisa||||] because he was stupid and failed to sort a prior ticket
[momocrome] a warrant for love.
[luisa||||] nah, it was a moving violation, not criminal stuff
[luisa||||] that's what makes it so stupid
[First_Incision] but failure to appear in court?
[luisa||||] yeah, but they took their time issuing the warrant
[luisa||||] like months
[First_Incision] yeah, it's an overworked/overcrowded system
[luisa||||] so he figured he could coast until he saved enough to pay it off
[luisa||||] no, small towns are slow to issue, big cities are quick to
[First_Incision] do you live with your brother?
[luisa||||] god, no
[luisa||||] i moved out last month
[First_Incision] ok
[First_Incision] are they gonna set a bail?
[First_Incision] I could see luisa|||| getting a romantic involvement with a bounty hunter from all of this. It would make a good movie.
[luisa||||] haha
[luisa||||] most bounty hunters are not Extremely Attractive
[First_Incision] I've never known any
[county] I happen to hunt bounties.
[luisa||||] stop lying
[First_Incision] his lies are always worth telling
[luisa||||] haha
[First_Incision] heh, secret service snipers shooting at grassy knolls
[luisa||||] christ i'm hungry
[First_Incision] you should visit your local all-nite muslim eatery, and get some hommos. It worked for me.
[luisa||||] hummus, darling
[luisa||||] and the nearby all night ethnic place is greek here
[luisa||||] so it would be gyros
[First_Incision] that's how they spell it on the menu at my local restaurant. I think Usamah has taught us that u's and o's are the same thing
[county] I'll post your brother's bail, luisa, if you'll make me something with lamb while wearing a too-short skirt.
[county] Deal?
[luisa||||] i would do that for no charge whatsoever
[First_Incision] hey, you're Texan. I'll post his bail if you introduce me to a Bush daughter
[luisa||||] hahaha
[luisa||||] those girls are hard-drinking hussies
[luisa||||] whatever would you want with them?
[county] First_Incision needs a hard-drinking hussy.
[First_Incision] Republican beeotches. Irresistable
[luisa||||] heheh
[First_Incision] They have political connections!
[First_Incision] "Meeting the parents" would entail meeting the most powerful man in the world!
[luisa||||] uh, he's a figurehead
[county] For who?
[county] Please don't say the Illuminati.
[First_Incision] and that's a reason not to date his daughter?
[county] Are his daughters attractive?
[First_Incision] The Illuminati are irrelavant. It's all Al Quaeda now.
[First_Incision] county: yes.
[county] The more vowels that can be included in the spelling of "Al Quaeiedaa," the better, I say.
[First_Incision] http://www.newsrebel.com/Images/bush_daughters_pr
[First_Incision] Al Quaeda is the real-life world conspiracy.
[county] Is that them?
[county] They look drunk.
[First_Incision] yeah
[First_Incision] they are always drunk.
[county] I don't find hard-drinking women appealing.
[momocrome] those girls have caused untold suffering and terror?
[First_Incision] I find it reassuring that when Western Civilization finally implodes, it will be replaced by a global Caliphate, and not some lame Asian thing.
[First_Incision] or, E. Asian, I should say.
[momocrome] I think China is in the lead
[momocrome] they just hired a new guy to capitalize things
[First_Incision] China=COMMUNISM. There's no way.
[momocrome] nope
[momocrome] Zemin just retired and they put an MBA in place
From: Ceee Peee
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] advice?
Date sent: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 04:34:58 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0013)
Indeed, whimsy is an open account (for posting whimsical diaries) whose password is 'whimsy'. I've contributed some diaries (principally, "I was there watching the world go by" and "How to calculate your social security income") and so have felt free to abuse the account for comment posting in Anne Marie stories. My guess is the other whimsy poster is tewl, since she posted something about "oh, I didn't realize annemarie=cp" in k5tt a while back.
I share your incredulity. Anyone who reads through k5tt would know the truth. Anyone who suspected could do a search on my (cp's) comments and see I only post in anne marie's stories. Oh well. It's fun to see rusty defend me.
--- James <spiralx@spazmail.com> wrote:
> --- =?iso-8859-1?q?I=20am=20Troll?=
> <i_am_troll@yahoo.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> >I thought that you were Whimsy? Why did you just
> out
> >yourself and then ask us to mod it down? Explain
> now,
> >or I'll moderate the comment up.
>
> Nah, Whimsy is an open account anyone can use if
> they know the password, which is lost to me, but
> could be "whimsy". So at least one other person
> remembers the password and knows that cp is anne
> marie.
>
> What I'd like to know is how on Earth has cp managed
> to keep the fact that he is Anne Marie quiet so
> well? I mean, he hardly tried to keep it quiet with
> trolltalk posts and so on, and yet very few seem to
> know who Anne Marie actually is...
>
> J
>
> P.S. I really want to smoke. Bugger. Giving up
> sucks.
(This is CP0013)
Do you know *exactly* how they picket a beaver? It would turn your stomach to know the details. They are kept in cages too small to even turn around, and that is the best part of their short lives, before the PICKETING begins... Too look at it, you'd never even think they could FIT the picket in the little bucktooth guys...
We need to get ORGANIZED to stop this insanity!
BEAVER PICKETING IS MURDER!
CAABP: Citizen Activists Against Beaver Picketing
Tree sits on YOU!
From: cptroll
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Alyssa Milano
Date sent: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 19:20:14 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0020)
She was that kid from Who's the Boss (and a Schwarzenegger flic), right?
Damn, she's aged gracefully. So how'd she get stuck doing 1800COLLECT ads
with Arsenio Hall, while Leonardo Dicaprio moved past Growing Pains and
into great roles like Total Eclipse? It's states like Ohio that do it, I
tell ya. Our nation is without taste.
Marc Stauffer <marc@ksac.com> wrote:
>THe Alyssa Milano E! true holywood story just started for anyone
>interested in her pouting breasts. 7:30 Eastern Standard. rev
(This is CP0020)
As quite possibly the only member of the old-school Slashdot trolls to ever actually attempt a serious and meaningful conversation with Mr. Lockwood (it worked, briefly), I feel compelled to comment on this.
That Geekizoid is an inanity is beyond dispute. That it is what it is almost entirely because of Mr. Lockwood is also beyond dispute. That Mr. Lockwood has, furthermore, contributed substantially to the deterioration of every site to which he has ever posted, save only those which were beyond redemption before he ever saw them (a category which arguably includes Slashdot), I will not dispute. That all of this, along with the other charges leveled against him, proves that Mr. Lockwood sucks, I will not dispute.
The real question behind all this, though, is not whether Mr. Lockwood sucks, but why Mr. Lockwood sucks. One might say that it does not matter, noting, by analogy, that one does not psychoanalyze a rabid dog, but instead simply puts it out of its misery. But it does matter, for in his own odd and frightening way, Scott Lockwood is Everyman. If you do not understand him, you do not understand anyone, probably including yourself.
Everyone, seemingly, detests Mr. Lockwood. Given that he had been married four times before he turned 30, this "everyone" may well include three ex-wives (last I heard, we're still waiting for his inevitable fourth divorce). From various anecdotes he has let drop over the years, there are a variety of real-life acquaintances, co-workers, and blood relatives in this category as well. So clearly, this is not just an online phenomenon; Mr. Lockwood is not a caring, sensitive man who lets off steam late at night by flaming people on weblogs. He is like this all the time. It is not a pose. It is the real Scott Lockwood, at 200 proof.
Mr. Lockwood himself is not unaware of this. He knows (and wishes it were not so) that dislike follows him around like the odor of alcohol trails after a drunk. But he has no idea why this is so. He knows it has to do with his abrasive and temperamental demeanor; he knows that his argumentative and self-righteous comments, and his complaints of being mistreated, win him no friends. But the connection between the cause and the effect, and the difference between his conduct and most other people's, escapes him. He has given up hope of understanding or improving the situation; he expects that it will continue, without change, for the rest of his life.
Mr. Lockwood does not understand that all of these things are symptomatic of a malaise that underlies his entire life. It is a condition that he was very nearly born with, and one which victimizes nearly all people to some degree. Most of us are not nearly as bad off as Mr. Lockwood; but there are some that have much more severe cases than him. Many rapists, murderers, and other violent criminals fall into that latter category. But even those of us who merely think ourselves better or smarter than everyone else, or who consider ourselves fit to decide what is right for everyone else, or who mock others for what they believe, are victims of this condition to some degree. I include myself in this; I do not claim (yet) to be speaking from a perspective completely outside the state of disease.
Mr. Lockwood's problem, to put it simply, is that he perceives the universe to be antagonistic to him. He has divided the universe into Self and Other, and decided that these two are eternal antagonists. Everything is his enemy; every action that anyone takes (other than to praise him), he perceives as some sort of attack, and he retaliates accordingly. He is convinced, although probably only subconsciously, that his life is a war in which he stands alone against all the forces of the universe. It is, in essence, the ultimate in paranoia.
As I wrote above, nearly everyone shares this condition to some extent. Many serial killers operate on the principle that, life being a never-ending battle that they will ultimately lose, they should take as many of the "enemy" with them as they can before they fall. But even ordinary people mostly act on analogous principles. Many people exploit the world around them in destructive or insensitive ways, or mistreat their fellow humans needlessly. This is all a consequence of defining the Other as an enemy; and this, in turn, is based on the fundamental error of dividing the universe into Self and Other.
What we all (Mr. Lockwood included) should strive for is an end to this division, which is really only a matter of mental habits, not an a priori property of existence. It derives from the infant's perception that part of what he perceives obeys his will and sends him sensory input (Self), and the rest does not (Other). The antagonism between these two hypothesized entities derives from the instinctive desire on the child's part to impose his will on everything; Other does not do what he wants, and is therefore the enemy. And so the infant makes the fundamental error that haunts him, in most cases, for the rest of his life.
This is what makes Mr. Lockwood tick. It is probably also what makes you tick. Think about that carefully before flaming him simply because his case is a bit worse than yours -- if indeed you are better off.
--mv
I've been a fool to myself,
I thought that I could live for no one else.
But now, through all the hurt and pain,
It's time for me to respect,
The ones you love mean more than anything.
So with sadness in my heart,
Feel the best thing I could do,
Is end it all, and leave forevar.
What's done is done, it feels so bad,
What once was happy now is sad,
I'll never love again,
My world is ending.
I wish that I could turn back time,
'Cause now the guilt is all mine,
Can't live without the trust from those you love.
I know we can't forget the past,
You can't forget love and pride,
Because of that, it's killing me inside.
It all returns to nothing,
It all comes tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down.
It all returns to nothing,
I just keep letting me down, letting me down, letting me down.
In my heart of hearts,
I know that I could never love again.
I've lost evarthing... evarthing...
Evarthing that matters to me matters in this world!
I wish that I could turn back time,
'Cause now the guilt is all mine,
Can't live without the trust from those you love.
I know we can't forget the past,
You can't forget love and pride,
Because of that, it's killing me inside.
It all returns to nothing,
It all comes tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down.
It all returns to nothing,
I just keep letting me down, letting me down, letting me down.
It all returns to nothing,
It all comes tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down.
It all returns to nothing,
I just keep letting me down, letting me down, letting me down.
Wow, how quickly a post goes from 4 Insightful to 0 Flamebait. It appears that someone has an itchy modding finger.
What the hell is this, K5?
Surely, Mr. Traficant is quaking in his boots at the prospect
of being interviewed by Ms. Sassaman. Ms. Sassaman's reporting
is the most hard-hitting; the most insightful; the most
fact-based. Every interview she does (how many... two now?) opens
a Pandora's box of corruption and intrigue.
Ms. Sassaman concocts many a rich fantasy in her clouded mind. Her
writing never seems to hit the mark. That is because it is never
based in anything resembling reality. How many times have we been
teased with suggestions of "having it cold" that a "certain large
company" is involved in far-reaching scandal? How many times have we
been promised penetrating interviews with the rich and famous?
I think it has become painfully obvious that Ms. Sassaman lives in
a world completely of her own manufacture. "I'm going to interview Jamez
Traficante." "I'm going to blow the lid off of nookie." "I'm going
to expose the corruption going on in Russian Blue cat farms."
Yes. We believe you, Esther. Now, go in for your schizophrenia
treatment and quiet down.
Now, there is nothing wrong with living in a fantasy. And there is
nothing wrong with setting goals for yourself. But Kuro5hin has had
enough of Ms. Sassaman's blatant and admitted trolling and attention
farming. After having read this diary entry several times, I can see
no other purpose than to say to all of Kuro5hin: "Look at me! I'm a
hot-shot journalist and I'm going to interview Jamez Traficante! Please
heap your adulation on me now!"
Sorry, not this time. Perhaps a better place to have posted this
diary would have been Adequacy,
which is the intended victim of this fantasy interview. What, pray tell, was
the reason for posting this here? To get more traffic for Adequacy,
which has been in steady decline for several months now? Probably. And,
of course, personal attention.
In summary, I guess I can only point out that I have spoken to people who
were under the influence of LSD and still had more grounding in reality than
Ms. Sassaman. Perhaps she would do well to pack her knapsack and hitch a
ride to China, where her delusions of grandeur and fantasies of conspiracy
could be put to good use in a propaganda machine.
Bye.
From: cptroll
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Linux Magazine, Rubber and bolts.
Date sent: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:03:43 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0032)
Aren't you still doing the Arkansas thing? Doesn't jive....
Craig McPherson <craig@laceyonline.com> wrote:
>Shut up, WILLIAM HENRY GATES. How does STEVE BALMER'S
>SEMEN taste??? Do you enjoy that AIDS-INFESTED JISM as you
>MASTURBATE to PHOTOGRAPHS of YOUNG CHILDREN?
>
>On 27 Oct 00, at 14:22, rev wrote:
>
>> I knew you were gdb you bastard!
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Craig McPherson" <craig@laceyonline.com>
>> To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
>> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 8:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Linux Magazine, Rubber and bolts.
>>
>>
>> > You should try MAXIMUM LINUX. It has MAE LING MAK. There's
>> > a picture of her in every issue wearing nothing but a VAIO! And the
>> > VAIO runs Linux! 'Cept she can't get the sound to work.
>> >
>> > MAE LING MAK is a SECURITY EXPERT. She wrote a
>> > SECURITY ARTICLE for MAXIMUM LINUX about ADVANCED
>> > SECURITY. She suggested that you PROTECT your e-mail from
>> > HACKERS, you do this:
>> >
>> > alias pine='blahblahblah'
>> > alias foo='pine'
>> >
>> > If you do this ADVANCED SECURITY stuff, an EVIL HACKER who
>> > breaks into your account an tries to read your e-mail with PINE will
>> > get an error when he types "pine", not knowing that to get into PINE,
>> > he ACTUALLY has to type "foo"! But MAE LING MAK knows, so SHE can
>> > read her e-mail but the EVIL HACKERS can't.
>> >
>> > Isn't MAE LING MAK smart? I like her ass the best.
>> >
>> > Also, you need to GO READ http://www.gnu.org/philosophy
>> >
>> > You don't not understand the BASIC CONCEPTS of FREE
>> > SOFTWARE. You don't understand the difference between
>> > PHYSICAL VALUE and INTELLECTUAL VALUE. A MAGAZINE
>> > has physical value, it costs MONEY to COPY and DISTRIBUTE. It
>> > exists as a PHYSICAL OBJECT, therefore it has PHYSICAL
>> > VALUE. SOFTWARE does not. It can be COPIED and
>> > DISTRIBUTED for FREE. Some EVIL SOCIALIST SOFTWARE
>> > COMPANIES try to CHARGE for software ANYWAY, and place
>> > RESTRICTIONS on the user's RIGHT to USE, and DISTRIBUTE it!
>> > They assign INTELLECTUAL VALUE to the software. This is
>> > morally WRONG. Get it RIGHT, fsckwit.
>> >
>> > Also, you're using MICROSOFT OUTLOOK EXPRESS, which
>> > proves you're STUPID.
>> >
>> > You can't compare a MAGAZINE to SOFTWARE, just like you
>> > can't compare YOUR MOTHER to a FEMALE. They're completely
>> > different things.
>> >
>> > SUCK IT DOWN AND CHOKE ON IT, AND DIE. SUCK IT DOWN
>> > AND CHOKE ON IT. SUCK IT DOWN. SUCK IT. SUCK. I'LL
>> > BURN YOU ALL ALIVE. I'LL BURN YOU ALL. I'LL BURN YOU.
>> > BURN YOU ALL. BURN YOU. BURN. BURN. BURN.
>> > BURNING. BURNING. BURNING BURNING FIRE. DEATH AND
>> > PAIN AND FIRE.
(This is CP0032)
From: Ceee Peee
0 /12/25/225554/21&mode=mo
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: [k22320inchfan] What better way to spread the holiday joy...
Date sent: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 20:10:17 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0009)
What better way to spread the holiday joy than to vote
up Anne Marie's new k5 article on pornography?
(http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystory;sid=200
derate)
Pornography: it's what we do, so it's what we should discuss.
(This is CP0009)
Why Evil is Good
I hate victims. Victims are the albatross hung from the neck of society. The
term is not even acknowledged by any other species. I am certain if there are
intelligent beings elsewhere in the universe, they follow the strict principle
of Natural Selection. Only the Strong shall survive. Mankind cannot survive
as long as its virility is diluted by the weak.
Peace-and-Love hippies, retards, cripples, depressives, sickling, addicts
and whiners are all victims of one kind or another. Larger examples of victims
can also be found: the entire nations of Israel and Englund, for example, are
constantly victimized and/or whining about their lack of power in the world. In
fact, the entire continent of Europe is nothing but a festering sewer of whiners
and welfare states. If we, the strongest nation on Earth, had a decent Ruler,
the entire junk-heap of Eurotrash would be burned to create a cloud of such lethal
density it would waft over to Asia and take out the victims that were left over from
World War II. The great black column of suffocating smoke would rise high into the
atmosphere, reaching for the very edges of outer space - a giant, living monument
to our strength. The unviable ashes of the once living garbage would orbit the Earth,
forever reminding future generations of the price of weakness.
World War II. Probably the greatest single era in the history of the planet, barring
the time before Man and Man's distorted, unnatural philosophies of "common good" and
"protecting the innocent". The time of Germany and its rule by a man of great vision.
A man who saw the virtue of evil. Every single class of victim described above was
dealt with in the harshest possible manner. Most people focus on the genocidal aspect
of Hitler's activities but his vision was much wider, encompassing every brand of
weakling from ethnic victims to sexual deviants. Unfortunately the United States,
led by a cripple, had to involve our great military might on the wrong side of the
war. The least Roosevelt could have done was to allow Germany to finish raping
France and reduce Englund to rubble.
We paid for our mistake in World War II. We were punished for choosing the wrong
side in the Great War by a period of non-violent "Cold War". The term "Cold War"
itself is the mark of the true Beast: the peace lover. A true leader - a Ruler -
would have unleashed the full might of our nuclear arsenal upon every nation on the
Earth, banishing them forever to particles of glowing dust blowing through the winds
of history. And look what our lack of action has gotten us: A planet filled with
human garbage, eternal sufferers suckling from the breast of the Mighty.
It is beyond my comprehension. Not only am I forced to allow the weak to survive,
but I - we - are forced to subsidize their pathetic existence. Every cripple
creeping along the sidewalk. Every degenerate elderly woman with osteoporosis who
parks in the handicap parking spot. Every worthless, lazy hippy who cries for peace
and marches on a public university. Every sickling child perpetually hospitalized
because its fetid welfare mother smoked too many drugs during her pregnancy. Every
30 year old retard wiping its nose all over its Scooby Doo coloring book. Every
drunk little whore seeking "justice" in our courts for her rape. All of them,
and more, deserve nothing but death. In the Natural World, every single one of these
leeches would be lion fodder.
Even the "Good Book", the Bible - which is actually nothing more than the sick fantasies
of opium addicts - predicts the outcome of Nature: "The meek shall inherit the Earth".
Yes, I know what you're saying, but you are wrong. This phrase has been twisted by the
weak, the cripple, the Jew to give their pathetic lives some ray of hope. This phrase
does not mean that the Victim will Rule the world. That is laughable. That is impossible.
The meek shall inherit the Earth for the one and only reason that they will be buried in
it.
To the strong who have read this: Thank you. Together, we will conquer. To the weak who
will whine in the comments below: Your days are numbered, trash.
I've been a fool to myself,
I thought that I could live for no one else.
But now, through all the hurt and pain,
It's time for me to respect,
The ones you love mean more than anything.
So with sadness in my heart,
Feel the best thing I could do,
Is end it all, and leave forevar.
What's done is done, it feels so bad,
What once was happy now is sad,
I'll never love again,
My world is ending.
I wish that I could turn back time,
'Cause now the guilt is all mine,
Can't live without the trust from those you love.
I know we can't forget the past,
You can't forget love and pride,
Because of that, it's killing me inside.
It all returns to nothing,
It all comes tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down.
It all returns to nothing,
I just keep letting me down, letting me down, letting me down.
In my heart of hearts,
I know that I could never love again.
I've lost evarthing... evarthing...
Evarthing that matters to me matters in this world!
I wish that I could turn back time,
'Cause now the guilt is all mine,
Can't live without the trust from those you love.
I know we can't forget the past,
You can't forget love and pride,
Because of that, it's killing me inside.
It all returns to nothing,
It all comes tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down.
It all returns to nothing,
I just keep letting me down, letting me down, letting me down.
It all returns to nothing,
It all comes tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down.
It all returns to nothing,
I just keep letting me down, letting me down, letting me down.
As the grandparent poster, I tell you that the previous AC to reply to you is on crack. That's no troll, merely an honest observation.
the tree sits on YOU! and weblogs too.
Oh my god, can you suck a little more cock? +3 Insightful?!
flamebait? get a life!
YHBT YHL HAND
Fraudativeras!!
Outside of the core group , there are supporters,
wellwishers, and fellow Vlad haters who share one binding aspect
with us (disdain for Vladinator), but who aren't officially
affiliated with us. Thus, we do not form a "gang" or any other
recognizable command structure.
There many, many people in the world who dislike Lockwood; some
have formed into small groups to work together, but most act as free
agents. We don't really know the identities of many people outside
our core group, nor do we know whether a given person
outside our core group is a free agent or is affiliated
with another group.
These activities are by nature clandestine and solitary, thus we
only work freely with allies we've met in meatspace and can trust
absolutely. I have no idea of the exact number of fellow Vlad-haters
out there (I know it's large), or whether or not any of them have
formed cabals similar to our own, so please don't go lumping us all
together.
Generally, we operate in clusters or "cells" where one member of
one cell is designated as a messenger with a similarly designated
member of another cell. If the designated messenger is discovered,
that individual is "disposed of" and another individual is selected.
In this way, no single cell is aware of how many members are in
any other cell and the only thing known of the membership of other
cells is the mutual identities of the messengers. Each cell is
constructed such that only the messenger from one other cell
is in contact with the messenger of any given cell. Therefore, we
cannot form a "gang" as you call it.
Instead, you would be more correct to refer to us as a "sweeping
cluster of antibodies reacting to a foreign body in order to prevent
it from damaging the host."
Thanks bunches.
From: cptroll
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Linux Magazine, Rubber and bolts.
Date sent: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:03:43 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0032)
Aren't you still doing the Arkansas thing? Doesn't jive....
Craig McPherson <craig@laceyonline.com> wrote:
>Shut up, WILLIAM HENRY GATES. How does STEVE BALMER'S
>SEMEN taste??? Do you enjoy that AIDS-INFESTED JISM as you
>MASTURBATE to PHOTOGRAPHS of YOUNG CHILDREN?
>
>On 27 Oct 00, at 14:22, rev wrote:
>
>> I knew you were gdb you bastard!
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Craig McPherson" <craig@laceyonline.com>
>> To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
>> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 8:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Linux Magazine, Rubber and bolts.
>>
>>
>> > You should try MAXIMUM LINUX. It has MAE LING MAK. There's
>> > a picture of her in every issue wearing nothing but a VAIO! And the
>> > VAIO runs Linux! 'Cept she can't get the sound to work.
>> >
>> > MAE LING MAK is a SECURITY EXPERT. She wrote a
>> > SECURITY ARTICLE for MAXIMUM LINUX about ADVANCED
>> > SECURITY. She suggested that you PROTECT your e-mail from
>> > HACKERS, you do this:
>> >
>> > alias pine='blahblahblah'
>> > alias foo='pine'
>> >
>> > If you do this ADVANCED SECURITY stuff, an EVIL HACKER who
>> > breaks into your account an tries to read your e-mail with PINE will
>> > get an error when he types "pine", not knowing that to get into PINE,
>> > he ACTUALLY has to type "foo"! But MAE LING MAK knows, so SHE can
>> > read her e-mail but the EVIL HACKERS can't.
>> >
>> > Isn't MAE LING MAK smart? I like her ass the best.
>> >
>> > Also, you need to GO READ http://www.gnu.org/philosophy
>> >
>> > You don't not understand the BASIC CONCEPTS of FREE
>> > SOFTWARE. You don't understand the difference between
>> > PHYSICAL VALUE and INTELLECTUAL VALUE. A MAGAZINE
>> > has physical value, it costs MONEY to COPY and DISTRIBUTE. It
>> > exists as a PHYSICAL OBJECT, therefore it has PHYSICAL
>> > VALUE. SOFTWARE does not. It can be COPIED and
>> > DISTRIBUTED for FREE. Some EVIL SOCIALIST SOFTWARE
>> > COMPANIES try to CHARGE for software ANYWAY, and place
>> > RESTRICTIONS on the user's RIGHT to USE, and DISTRIBUTE it!
>> > They assign INTELLECTUAL VALUE to the software. This is
>> > morally WRONG. Get it RIGHT, fsckwit.
>> >
>> > Also, you're using MICROSOFT OUTLOOK EXPRESS, which
>> > proves you're STUPID.
>> >
>> > You can't compare a MAGAZINE to SOFTWARE, just like you
>> > can't compare YOUR MOTHER to a FEMALE. They're completely
>> > different things.
>> >
>> > SUCK IT DOWN AND CHOKE ON IT, AND DIE. SUCK IT DOWN
>> > AND CHOKE ON IT. SUCK IT DOWN. SUCK IT. SUCK. I'LL
>> > BURN YOU ALL ALIVE. I'LL BURN YOU ALL. I'LL BURN YOU.
>> > BURN YOU ALL. BURN YOU. BURN. BURN. BURN.
>> > BURNING. BURNING. BURNING BURNING FIRE. DEATH AND
>> > PAIN AND FIRE.
(This is CP0032)
PELT HANDLlNG FOR PROFlT
x xx
BEAVER PELT HANDLING
Nick Anderson Agent
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
REMOVlNG BEAVERS FROM TRAPS
Beaver should be removed from traps carefully, so not to damage the pelt. When trapping in winter, extra care must be taken. Remove the beaver from the trap as soon as it is out of the water, so it does not freeze to the metal. Be especially cautious where the water is shallow and the fur may have frozen to the ice. If the beaver should become frozen in the trap, allow it to
thaw before attempting removal. Never put a wet animal on or against anything to which it might freeze.
If the fur is dirty, wash the beaver in water. In winter, rub the animal in loose snow to clean and dry it. The snow will absorb extra moisture so that the fur does not freeze. Next, it is best to place the beaver in a burlap or feed type bag. This will prevent it from freezing to your truck or the type of equipment you are using.
SKlNNlNG THE BEAVER
Skinning the "open" pelt is much different than skinning the "cased" pelt. By this method, the animal is laid on its back on a clean place. With the beaver, the feet and tail are first cut off.
Cutting these parts from the beaver is not difficult but there is an easy way. On the tail at the first fringe of fur, there is a flat joint. This joint is about 1/4 inch into the fringe of fur. A little practice will make this joint easy to find and the tail can be cut off with one slice of the knife across the flat joint. Very close to the fringe of fur above the feet on the front legs is another joint. This joint can be felt with the finger and thumb and one cut across the joint with a sharp knife will sever the foot.
To cut off the hind foot, first, bend the foot forward towards the belly of the beaver, bending it fully forward at the heel. With the foot held this way, cut across the cords at the back of the foot and keep cutting all around the foot with it still bent forward. A snap sideways after this cut is finished will usually break the foot free from the leg.
The next step is to slit the pelt from the chin to the tail on the belly side and in a straight line (see Figure I). The pelt is then skinned back one side at a time to the back. When the legs are reached, do not slit them open but pull them through, pulling the hide off the way you would take off a sock. Be careful with the skinning knife around the leg because the skin is easily cut in these tender places. Skin carefully the head. Cut the ear off close to the skull. Skin around the eyes and nose and the pelt is free from the carcass.
Beaver castors, on both male and female, are found on each side and just forward of the vent. These should be removed carefully with a knife or pulled free with the thumb and finger so the sacks are not broken, which would let the oil run out. They should be tied at the cords and hung until dry. The more care used in removing and drying, the more castors are worth. They are used in making scents and perfumes.
THE DRYlNG BOARD
The drying boards are made from a single sheet of 4'x8'x3/4" plywood. Cut the sheet into three pieces measuring 32"x48". The drying board should be marked as shown. This is done on both sides of the board, giving you six stretching surfaces from one sheet of plywood.
The pattern template are available at no cost at Fur Harvesters Auction. Choose the line appropriate to the length of the pelt, and falten the head and tail to the drying board with the fur side down. The nails which are used to attach the pelt should extend at least I" above the pelt so that when the nailing of the pelt is complete, it can be raised off the board. This allows the air to circulate between the fur and the board (2" common nails work well). Place one nail behind the nose and one at the tail, and one at the mid-length on each side of the pelt.
IMPORTANT: The lines on the board should only be used as a guide to give you a consistent uniform shape. Using a tape measure, measure from the nail at the nose to the tail. Add this to the width measurement. The sum of the two will give you your GREEN size. Refer to size chart:
SlZlNG OVAL SHAPE O XXXL I XXL 2 XL 3 LGE 4 LM 5 MED 6 SMALL 7 CUB
70" & over 65"to 70" 60" to 65" 55" to 60" 51" to 55" 47" to 51" 42" to 47" Under 42"
This is where the trapper makes or loses money depending on how he or she boards the pelt. Always board the pelt 2" to 3" above the size tariff suited to the size of the pelt. The skin boarded at 61" GREEN, if it can be boarded 2" larger and still remain loose on the board would remain in the XL category. Two beaver of exactly the same quality when boarded differently can easily sell for a $5 - $10 difference.
Always remember a freshly boarded beaver will almost always shrink 2 to 3 inches during the drying process. Both pelts will fall into the large category but the grade of the two could be guite different. An example of this based on December 1995' sale would be as follows:
SHEARABLE GRADES:Size 3 (LGE) lPTll B $40.00
Size 3 (LGE) I&II HVY B $34.00
Size 3 (LGE) I-II SEMI B $24.00
NON-SHEARABLE GRADES: Size 3 (LGE) I-II FLAT B $17.00
The 56 inch beaver will have a far better chance of falling into one of the shearable grades as would the one at 59 inches, By boarding your beaver pelt pro trapper will be getting the best quality grade possible.
YOU WILL RECEIVE FAR MORE SHEARABLE GRADES BY BOARDING YOUR BEAVER LOOSELY THAN, THE PERSON WHO STRETCHES IT TIGHT: HE MAY GAIN IN SIZE, BUT THE MARKET IS DEMANDING A SHEARABLE PRODUCT:
Once you have determined your size, continue to nail the top half of the pelt to the board. Space the nails about 3/4" apart. When the top half is completed, continue to place nails at the same intervals along the bottom half of the pelt, until it has an even sided shape that follows the pattern on the board. This will help prevent over stretching which reduces the density of the fur and lessens its value.
The leg holes should not be left open because they give the pelt a rough appearance. It is preferred to sew the leg holes, but nailing them closed is also acceptable. After the leg holes have been closed, wash the leather lightly with water and rome paper towel or cloth. This will remove blood stains and light grease. The leather will take on a creamy whitish appearance. Next, lift the pelt up off the nails so the air can circulate under the skin.
Many trappers who use boards prefer to do the fleshing after the pelt has been tacked to the board! This should be done before the leg holes are closed.
DRYING
It is best to dry beaver pelts slowly. Temperatures of 55F-65F are desirable. Never put drying pelts near stoves or expose
them to hot sunlight. As the pelt dries, wipe the leather from time to time with a clean cloth. this removes any grease which may run from the leather.
MARKETlNG THE BEAVER
Over the years, more black spots have been showing up on the beaver. These marks are most often old scars. Old scars that are hard and brittle must be classified as slight damage. The reason for that is when they go into the tanning fluid, it will not penetrate the hard scars and when the knife used to thin the leather hits these scars, the pelt can be damaged.
1. I PT IIA
SELECT SHEARABLE 14, GOOD SLT DGD B
SHEARABLE SLT CUTS, SCARS
2. I PT IIB I5. GOOD SLT DGD C
3. I PT IIC 16. REG SLT DGD A
NON-SHEARABLE SLT CUTS, SCARS
4. I-II HVY A 17. REG SLT DGD B
5. I-II HVY 8 18. REG SLT DGD C
6. I-II HVY C
SHEARABLE 19. I-ll RED RUMP B VERY FLAT, TAKEN
7. I-II SEMI A 20. I-ll RED RUMP C
VERY EARLY, BLUE LEATHER
8. I-II SEMI B 21. GOOD II'S B
9. I-II SEMI C 22. GOOD II'C
10. II-II FLAT A
NON-SHEARABLE 23. GOOD DAMAGED CUTS, BlTES 30% PELT DGD
11. I -II FLAT B 24. III'S & IV'S UNPRlME OR SICK
12. I-II FLAT C 25.
BDLY DGD MANY CUTS OR HOLES OVER 30% DGD
13. GOOD SLT DGD A SHEARABLE SLT CUTS, SCARS
There are very few select pelts. A grade pattern is established primarily because all the pelts are inter sorted. If you
have a pelt worth $50 you would not expect it to be put with pelts worth $40, as the maximum you would realize
would be $40. This is what necessitates fine grading.
PRlMENESS IN BEAVER
The underfur of the beaver is almost absent in the summer. However, towards fall, these hairs start to grow. The last place on the animal where they finish growing is the back of the neck. In the fall, they are quite short. However a full prime skin will have hair on the back of the neck, approximately 3/4" long. This is why when grading, the back of the neck is felt. The amount of resistance the hand feels in rubbing the beaver against the grain of the fur, indicates the density of the underfur. When it is very flat, it is called a II or III. As it comes into prime, the hair thickens and it can be classified as I PT II or I-II, depending on how thick the fur grows. Once the full length of the hair has been reached, the fur and pelt start to become over-prime. The beaver, because of its long stay in the house and sour feed source, has been using its body fat to produce fur and keep warm. As this progresses, the underfur starts to turn "off" color or reddish. This occurs in a spring beaver and is referred to as red rump. It starts at the tail and progresses up the flank, rendering the beaver useless for plucking and shearing, because the red stain goes below the 12mm level. This is the reason fall beaver pelts are much more desirable than spring pelts.
If your beaver pelts are sent to Fur Harvesters Auction and they are consistently graded I-II HVY, I-II SEMI on your returns, your handling is satisfactory.
Not satisfied! Ask... at a trapper education course or at our annual convention. Ask someone you know who does a top job and they will be glad to share their knowledge. Time, practice and interest make the finest fur handlers.
HOME
[dmg] and then I will be in Tokyo/south Korea in April /msg datebot Why aren't women drawn to my l33t Linux skilz?
[dmg] Who are you anyway Lumpen ?
[bc] you are drunk ever 36 hours
[dmg] I am not sure I should be giving this information out.
[Lumpen] Just a fan, dmg.
[county] Well, I need to stay sober for now, because I have a date!
[First_Incision] why am I always sober? I should take up this drinking thing.
[county] Yes, do.
[First_Incision] maybe I just need to get used to it. I could never drink enough to get drunk. Once I could feel stupidity creeping up, I could never bring myself to continue.
[county] Strange.
[dmg] county: did you get your date from reading the excellent dating advice available here on #adequacy ?
[county] Once I can feel stupidity creeping up, I can't bring myself to stop.
[county] dmg, I actually lied about having a date.
[Lumpen] does #adequacy have a dating-advice bot?
[dmg] county: its IRC
[dmg] you can lie if you want
[First_Incision] Lumpen: it should!
[First_Incision] zuul, dating?
[zuul] first_incision: wish i knew
[First_Incision] zuul, women?
[zuul] bugger all, i dunno, first_incision
[First_Incision] zuul, men?
[zuul] men are really just boys with financial responsibilities
[dmg] zuul, should I visit a whore ?
[zuul] dmg: wish i knew
[county] I witnessed an shocking display of female pettiness and cruelty today. It put me off.
[Lumpen]
[First_Incision] zuul, linux
[zuul] hmmm... linux is a big POS half rate OS that encourages pirates and blatant faggotry!!!!!
[bc] perhaps you aren't skillful enough
[First_Incision] there you go!
[bc] if you can use these skills to make lots&LOTS of money, they will be drawn to those skills
[Lumpen] Not skilzful enough?
[dmg] zuul, bsd
[zuul] rumour has it bsd is dying
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[Lumpen] But I installed the Linux on my home b0xen all by myself!
[Lumpen] You should just reopen Adequacy. The joke has gone on long enough.
[First_Incision] Perdida has her Iniquity "Daily", but I can't seem to finish an article for it.
[Lumpen] Iniquity?
[First_Incision] www.iniquitydaily.com
[dmg] adequacy is dead. Red ink flowed like a river of blood! you didn't have to be Kreskin to see that it was dying. Fact: adequacy is dead.
[county] perdida has a scoop site?
[county] Oh heavens, do spare us.
[Lumpen] It looks like the most recent article on iniquitydaily was posted about a month ago.
[First_Incision] yeah
[Lumpen] Lame.
[First_Incision] And it was a k5 reject
[cyn-away] bc knows more about it
It is time to set the record straight regarding the situation with respect
to Vladinator/JCB/Reza/Lonesome Cowboy Burt/Whatever other aliases he may be
using. The situation has been confused due to the recent world-wide influx
of Vlad-haters, helper-cells, interested third parties and the occasional
Vlad sympathizer.
Let us start with a basic tenet of the Association of Anti-Vlad Avengers:
There is no difference between William Scott Lockwood III and those who
aid him, give him comfort, and/or use him as a substandard, "Always Save"
hosting solution. Though we may have no direct quarrel with you, Mr. "Trollaxor",
you appear to be friendly with Mr. Lockwood and - by your own admission - are
using him as a substandard "Always Save" hosting solution. Consider the fact
that if you were using a respectable host for your web site, you would not be
having the difficulties you are having now. Also, with this attempt at
ferreting out information for Mr. Lockwood, you are aiding and abetting our
sworn enemy and have aligned yourself in direct oposition to a powerful
internet force (that is, the AAA and its splinter groups).
This brings us to a primary characteristic of the AAA which has
been detailed elsewhere, but which I will repeat here in interest of
completeness: no single cell, as an entity, is aware of the members of
any other cell. The structure of our association works as follows. Each
cell is composed of no more and no less than three members who all reside in
a roughly similar geographic area. One of the three members is designated
as a messenger. This messenger is the only member in contact with a messenger
from exactly two other cells. In this way, the members of each cell remain
anonymous to the members of any other cell. If a messenger has been compromised,
the corresponding cell is responsible for "cleansing" that messenger and
replacing him or her with a new messenger. Such a cell will remain on
probation - meaning they will only be allowed contact with a single other
cell - until such time as the new messenger has been operating for no less
than six months.
Our activities are clandestine and even if another cell wanted to
share the information you request, it would not be able to because it
would not be privy to said information.
As you can see the AAA, though very loosely connected, operates
in a highly efficient manner and is deadly serious about the stated goals
of the organization: namely, the complete, unconditional eradication of
Vladinator, in any and all forms, from the internet.
We have been following the current situation with Vladinator's hosting
service quite closely and we estimate the damages to be severe at this point.
However, we cannot agree to end our champaign any sooner than already decided
upon. We may have shown mercy in this, our second major attack, if Mr.
Lockwood had shown the proper degree of humility at our hands. Instead,
Mr. Lockwood responded with his usual barrage of
lies
and vitriol.
For this reason, and the fact that we are otherwise bored, we have extended the
length of this attack. We realize that Mr. Lockwood's hosting company will try
various tricks to deflect our attack, things such as firewalls and IP banning. Eventually,
they will succeed in eliminating the current attack at which point we will rest for
a period of not less than seven days prior to initiating another attack.
We predict that the end of this second wave will result in another round of
cockiness from Mr. Lockwood, given the highly reactionary character that he is.
The next attack, which will be the "third wave", will be far more subtle than the
current attack and will undoubtedly shake Mr. Lockwood's faith in his current
alliances and dealings. This cycle of attack/end attack/Lockwood gets cocky/
attack again is necessary to wear down Mr. Lockwood's self-confidence and
general desire for continued existence.
As for the fate of Trollaxor.com, I would suggest you find a more suitable,
respectable host for your web site. Had you chosen your hosting solution more
wisely to begin with, you would not find yourself in the same sinking ship with
the rest of Lockwood's "customers". We would also like to remind you that it
is not we who are the enemy, it is William Scott Lockwood III who has
brought this upon himself and those who do business with him. Yes, our attacks
have been harsh and our dealings with Mr. Lockwood have been merciless, but simply
going over Mr. Lockwood's internet history shows that our cause is just and in the
best interests of the internet community at large. If we must sacrifice "innocent"
sites such as yours and kuro5hin, then so be it. It is a very small price to pay
for a truly Vladinator-free internet. An internet where true innocents can browse,
write and engage in discussion without fear of being choked at the hands of a
slobbering troglydite with bad glands
and a spastic colon.
From: cptroll
To: <k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org>
Subject: Re: [k22320inchfan] Trolling as a gift from God
Date sent: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 17:30:10 -0400
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@methlab.nothing.org
(This is CP0027)
So maybe now is not a good time to mention that I actually like that shit. TB1's ok, but TB2/3 and the Millennium Bell are great.
80md <eightymd@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>From: "Mendax Veritas" <mendaxveritas@yahoo.com>
>>
>>. . . the art of trolling is taught by the devil himself in a dark
>>grotto deep within the isle of Crete when the moon is full on Sam-hayn,
>>to a soundtrack of Tubular Bells and Ozzy,
>
>_Tubular Bells_! CREEPING CANNIBAL CHRIST! That
>name alone strikes more fear deeper into my heart
>than a thousand chill winds, on Crete or elsewhere
(This is CP0027)
Surely, Mr. Traficant is quaking in his boots at the prospect
of being interviewed by Ms. Sassaman. Ms. Sassaman's reporting
is the most hard-hitting; the most insightful; the most
fact-based. Every interview she does (how many... two now?) opens
a Pandora's box of corruption and intrigue.
Ms. Sassaman concocts many a rich fantasy in her clouded mind. Her
writing never seems to hit the mark. That is because it is never
based in anything resembling reality. How many times have we been
teased with suggestions of "having it cold" that a "certain large
company" is involved in far-reaching scandal? How many times have we
been promised penetrating interviews with the rich and famous?
I think it has become painfully obvious that Ms. Sassaman lives in
a world completely of her own manufacture. "I'm going to interview Jamez
Traficante." "I'm going to blow the lid off of nookie." "I'm going
to expose the corruption going on in Russian Blue cat farms."
Yes. We believe you, Esther. Now, go in for your schizophrenia
treatment and quiet down.
Now, there is nothing wrong with living in a fantasy. And there is
nothing wrong with setting goals for yourself. But Kuro5hin has had
enough of Ms. Sassaman's blatant and admitted trolling and attention
farming. After having read this diary entry several times, I can see
no other purpose than to say to all of Kuro5hin: "Look at me! I'm a
hot-shot journalist and I'm going to interview Jamez Traficante! Please
heap your adulation on me now!"
Sorry, not this time. Perhaps a better place to have posted this
diary would have been Adequacy,
which is the intended victim of this fantasy interview. What, pray tell, was
the reason for posting this here? To get more traffic for Adequacy,
which has been in steady decline for several months now? Probably. And,
of course, personal attention.
In summary, I guess I can only point out that I have spoken to people who
were under the influence of LSD and still had more grounding in reality than
Ms. Sassaman. Perhaps she would do well to pack her knapsack and hitch a
ride to China, where her delusions of grandeur and fantasies of conspiracy
could be put to good use in a propaganda machine.
Bye.
Surely, Mr. Traficant is quaking in his boots at the prospect
of being interviewed by Ms. Sassaman. Ms. Sassaman's reporting
is the most hard-hitting; the most insightful; the most
fact-based. Every interview she does (how many... two now?) opens
a Pandora's box of corruption and intrigue.
Ms. Sassaman concocts many a rich fantasy in her clouded mind. Her
writing never seems to hit the mark. That is because it is never
based in anything resembling reality. How many times have we been
teased with suggestions of "having it cold" that a "certain large
company" is involved in far-reaching scandal? How many times have we
been promised penetrating interviews with the rich and famous?
I think it has become painfully obvious that Ms. Sassaman lives in
a world completely of her own manufacture. "I'm going to interview Jamez
Traficante." "I'm going to blow the lid off of nookie." "I'm going
to expose the corruption going on in Russian Blue cat farms."
Yes. We believe you, Esther. Now, go in for your schizophrenia
treatment and quiet down.
Now, there is nothing wrong with living in a fantasy. And there is
nothing wrong with setting goals for yourself. But Kuro5hin has had
enough of Ms. Sassaman's blatant and admitted trolling and attention
farming. After having read this diary entry several times, I can see
no other purpose than to say to all of Kuro5hin: "Look at me! I'm a
hot-shot journalist and I'm going to interview Jamez Traficante! Please
heap your adulation on me now!"
Sorry, not this time. Perhaps a better place to have posted this
diary would have been Adequacy,
which is the intended victim of this fantasy interview. What, pray tell, was
the reason for posting this here? To get more traffic for Adequacy,
which has been in steady decline for several months now? Probably. And,
of course, personal attention.
In summary, I guess I can only point out that I have spoken to people who
were under the influence of LSD and still had more grounding in reality than
Ms. Sassaman. Perhaps she would do well to pack her knapsack and hitch a
ride to China, where her delusions of grandeur and fantasies of conspiracy
could be put to good use in a propaganda machine.
Bye.
From: Ceee Peee
0 /12/20/01446/325).
To: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
Subject: [k22320inchfan] Sorry about that, all
Date sent: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 00:51:12 -0800 (PST)
Send reply to: k22320inchfan@lists.io.com
(This is CP0006)
Demonstrating poor judgment on my part, I lobbed
another at the k5 queue
(http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystory&sid=200
It's not half as big a troll as the last one, but,
well, I guess people are still angry about the last
one. Let's just say the only thing geeks defend more
than their porn is their smokes.
JSM, I'm disappointed you didn't show some guts and
just mod it down. Have I pissed enough in your
swimming pool yet? Heck, they're slandering you in
there, equating the two of us. Even rusty's annoyed,
and he has a sense of humor (though his reasoning
isn't so hot).
I think I'll leave k5 alone for a while. I'm leaving
town in two days and won't be back for a couple weeks,
though I'll have net access in between. Maybe when I
get back, I'll have developed some maturity. 'Night,
all.
(This is CP0006)
...it would be cool to get such weblogging features inside porn movie studios...
Hippie chicks are hot.
I can tell you how often your mom likes it up the ass you canadian cocksucker!!!!!!
I hear the bloggers flog the loggers in their blog. It's slashdotted now, that is, the dotters are hogging the blog flogging the loggers. The blog is bogging down, logging 404's. I'm logging this log blog hogging in my blog.
"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."