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Sequel to Ghost In The Shell

News for nerds writes "Innocence: Ghost In The Shell as the sequel to Ghost In The Shell, anime film directed by Mamoru Oshii, has been announced. Due out in spring of 2004 in Japan, with Mamoru Oshii as screenplay/director, produced by Mitsuhisa Ishikawa of Production I.G, and co-produced by(!) Studio GHIBLI."

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  1. Sweet! by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 2

    That movie was the closest to Akira-dom levels of incredibleness of any I've seen. This one I'll actually buy before I rip n crunch.

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    1. Re:Sweet! by Peterus7 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Ghost in a shell was an awesome, but to bring it to the level of Akira-dom is kinda crazy... It's a great anime, but if you think about the time it was made vs. the time Akira was made, the similarity just isn't there.

      Also, I'm glad they're finally coming out with a sequel, the first one just leaves you hanging and cussing out the tv/vcr/dvd for ending just when it was getting interesting. I'm suprised that they havn't done a sequel already.

      Studio Ghibli, eh? Those are those great people who did Princess Mononoke, Kiki's delievery service, and Spirited away (which was taken and released here by Disney...) I wonder if Mirimax (which is part of Disney) will be behind the release on our coasts.

      Of course that would all depend on how successful Spirited away was. Anyone know when it's coming here?

  2. Boooring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I thought Linux users were supposed to be hyper-rational, science-minded logicians. So why do I find them creaming their genes about a haunted Bash script? It's ridiculous. Furthermore, the proof that the spirits really exist is dubious AT BEST because the whole thing is animated--they can draw whatever fanciful creatures they want.

  3. Right on! by Rhinobird · · Score: 4, Funny

    A sequel! The last one had some naked robot action, but in the ssequel, I wan't some hot robot on robot action...like that Bjork video.

    huh.. I just like saying Bjork...

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    1. Re:Right on! by RockyJSquirel · · Score: 2

      huh.. I just like saying Bjork

      Me too :)
      Björk
      Björk
      Björk

      ahhh.

      I even know how to pronounce it!

      I'm a little less sure how to pronounce Guðmundsdóttir though.

      Me, obsessed?

      Rocky J. Squirrel

  4. Merkac Dot - Google Links, Slashdot Summary by mikecheng · · Score: 3, Informative
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    "Innocence: Ghost In The Shell as the sequel to Ghost In The Shell, anime film directed by Mamoru Oshii, has been announced [G]. Due out in spring of 2004 in Japan, with Mamoru Oshii as screenplay/director, produced by Mitsuhisa Ishikawa of Production I.G [G], and co-produced by(!) Studio GHIBLI [G]."

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  5. More info... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    More info on the sequel:

    Dark Horse Comics

    Anime Review

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  6. About the director by SteweyGriffin · · Score: 5, Informative
    Mamoru Oshii is the director of Urusei Yatsura 2: Beautiful Dreamer, Angel's Egg, both Patlabor movies, and Ghost in the Shell and its sequel (mentioned in this article).

    He was born in the early 1950s and Oshii is considered one of the leading directors of the younger generation.

    I personally feel that Oshii's movies are darker and more cynical than Miyazaki's, yet Oshii and Miyazaki are good friends. Oshii has been offered a director's job at Ghibli several times, but the projects were never realized.

  7. Oh man, I've been waiting for this by Freston+Youseff · · Score: 5, Informative

    For some time now! Behold and drool over another preview/interview.

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  8. Various quotes, links about Ishikawa by SteweyGriffin · · Score: 5, Informative

    "In the Japanese animation industry, there are three types of producers: (1) the executive producer, who collects funds for the production; (2) the line producer, who manages the production; and (3) the producer who plans the production. I do all three of those roles. I try to train the young people at I.G. who want to become producers in the same way: to manage all three categories. This production method is one strong point about Production I.G., and helps explain why we have been able to last this long while targeting solely the Japanese market."

    Ishikawa's production company: [link]

    "I definitely see the American market as part of my future. The Japanese animated films that are most commercially successful are the ones that are targeted toward the U.S. and other English-speaking territories. Seventy to eighty percent of non-Japanese profit comes from English language sales."

    Ishikawa's "Blood: The Last Vampire", which would've won an award but wasn't longer than the required 70 minutes, so it was ineligible. [link]

    From a question & answer session:
    Q: Would it be a fair prediction that your next feature will be 70 minutes or longer?
    A: (laughing) Yes. The Academy, you know...

  9. Anime for nerds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    cartoons that matter

  10. There's a Ghost in hte shell tv series airing... by ultrapenguin · · Score: 4, Informative

    in japan currently on PPV for 800 yen for 2 episodes monthly.
    Not too many japs are paying for it, but at least good old koreans capture the stuff for free so fansub crowds can enjoy it...

  11. GITS by chunkwhite86 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The original Ghost in the Shell was probably one of my favorite anime movies, period. The art, the soundtrack, the story were all masterfully created. The producer is going to have a tough time topping it! I sure hope they pull it off well though, as I'd be the first in line to see it.

    Maybe if we're lucky we'll get to see it in the theater here in the US. I'd hate to have to fly all the way to Japan to see it in a real theater! ;-)

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  12. i do hope.. by mj_sf · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I do hope they include or make references to the Fuchikoma's (robotic support vehicles similar in appearence to spiders with a semi-collective AI for those who havent read the manga) in this sequel, as for someone who has read the manga cover to cover, GITS was, although extremely impressive in a technical sence, a slight let down that certain key features of the original storyline had been cut / significantly altered for the anime. I have not read any of GITS 2 - Man Machine Interface, so this may be incorrect (ie. fuchikomas not featuring in it atall) but even if it is just a small reference, it would add a certain character that the first GITS anime significantly lacked.

    For me, the only characters with even the slightest hint of depth were kusanagi and Batou. The other characters just seemed fairly hollow, which was unfortunate. Personally i would have loved to have seen the original manga turned into a series (even if it had to be as short as Macross Plus 1-3) first as apposed to a fairly mixed up film. As /. reported quite a while back, GITS is being made into a series by the same production house as this release.

    Heres hoping its worth it!

    1. Re:i do hope.. by jandrese · · Score: 2

      May I suggest going online and searching out Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex. It's a TV series based on the GitS manga that includes the Fuchikomas (though they get translated as Tachikomas), and more character development all around. At least 4 episodes are currently available through your regular fansub channels.

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  13. Old news by Sandman1971 · · Score: 2

    Damn this is old news. This was announced like 2-3 months ago.

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  14. I need a new job by krray · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm sitting here initially thinking, "Ghost in Shell" -- hhmmm view a PDF in tcsh?

    News for Nerds. Stuff that matters...

    1. Re:I need a new job by gamgee5273 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I dunno what's scarier: your statement, or the fact that I'm going to correct you that it's PS, not PDF, that Ghost is used for. ;)

  15. It's high time by stratjakt · · Score: 3, Interesting

    For this incredible artform to realize its true zenith. The faustian undertones omnipresent in Anime, the razor wit, the breathtaking artwork. Not since Voltron has there been an Anime franchise as deeply motivating and skillfully executed.

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  16. and here I thought by The+FooMiester · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When I read the headline, I thought it was yet another backdoor in login, like the one Ken Thompson put there in the early days of UNIX.

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  17. A sequel worth waiting for by Seth+Able · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Well this made my day! Until I first saw GiTS in 1997, "Willow" was my favorite movie of all time. I saw that movie three, maybe four times over the years. When I saw GiTS I fell in love with it and have probably seen in close to thirty times in the last five years. It's only partially the story - more it's akin to Gibson's books - atmosphere baby! Slashdot readers are the dreamers of our culture, the ones who create the future. GiTS along with other classics like Star Trek, Virtual Light, Blade Runner, I Robot, et. al paint a world we want to live in and motivate this group to create. Ghost in the Shell was all about atmosphere and philosophy. Like it or not we'll be faced with the questions Motoko contemplated. Personally I think GiTS rivals any other classic out there and I can't wait for this sequal and for Stand Alone Complex to reach this side of the pond. Seth PS - FWIW, On my 25th birthday (this Dec. 28) I'm getting the pattern you see on Motoko's upper back in the opening sequence tattooed.

    1. Re:A sequel worth waiting for by Yokaze · · Score: 3, Insightful

      > GiTS [...] Virtual Light, Blade Runner [...] paint a world we want to live in [...]

      It may be just me, but I considered the above creations (manga/books/films) as slightly distopian. Not in the "Orson Wells" sense, but more in a "grand-pa" sense. It is a future, where we probably are the grand-pas saying, "In the old times, everything was better", but everything is just different.

      Or do you consider a future, where people are subject to the whim of large companies (Blade Runner/Do Androids Dream of Electronic Sheeps), surveillable by miniature implants (Stand Alone Complex), hackable like MS Brain '98 (GitS),
      or the total fragmentation of the US and commercialisation of the national and regional goverments (Virtual Light) as desirable futures?

      They are trying to paint a more or less realistic image of the future (Well, maybe except "Virtual Light"), without judging it.

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    2. Re:A sequel worth waiting for by Seth+Able · · Score: 2

      No, actually, I'm quite sober. Thank you for asking!

      Oh, and did you notice that there wasn't a single sex scene? How many current movie from America can you say that about? Nudity - perhaps, though it was clear Motoko's body was cybernetic and except for the assembly scene in the opening the only time she "appeared" nude was when she was going to use thermoptic camo. Notice the lack of any visible detail like nipples?

      At any rate, I am going to guess you have already made up your mind and I doubt this will change it. Do feel free not to watch the sequel if you didn't like the first.

      Seth

  18. Ghost in the Shell TV - Standalone Complex by satsuke · · Score: 3, Informative

    Don't forget about the currently running TV show. Good show, basically picks up and follows the manga rather than the Movie. Several groups have been subbing it and posted to alt.binaries.anime & alt.binaries.multimedia.anime .. haven't looked in alt.binaries.multimedia.anime.reposts .. but you get the idea. www.productionig.com/Ghost_TV.html

    1. Re:Ghost in the Shell TV - Standalone Complex by Ranger+Rick · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'll second that... Standalone Complex is incredible. Closer to the manga, and just better done than the movie, I think. The movie was pretty light on character development, even though it was technically beautiful.

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  19. Re:There's a Ghost in hte shell tv series airing.. by jandrese · · Score: 2

    It's sad to hear that the Japanese aren't paying for Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex, because it is a fabulous series. Unfortunatly the Fansub community hasn't been very generious with the episodes thus far (only 4 are out AFAIK), so maybe it goes downhill later on.

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  20. Re:There's a Ghost in hte shell tv series airing.. by DaggerWare · · Score: 2, Informative
    Since only two episodes air per month, not all that many have been released, which is one reason why there aren't many fansubs so far. I think at this point only six have aired, and I'm told that fansubs of 5-6 should be out shortly.

    The other aspect, of course, is that the series is very licensed: Bandai grabbed it before it even premiered and has been helping to fund the production, so a lot of fansub groups are avoiding it for ethical reasons.

  21. Trailers & Desktops by kmfdmk · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here are some Scans from Man Machine Interface manga: http://kukaku.free.fr/scans.shtml Google's Cache: http://216.239.51.100/search?q=cache:jMoIPAePIMUC: kukaku.free.fr/scans.shtml+&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 And Links to the entire un-translated GitS 2 Manga, scanned, HI-Res 3000x2000 dpi, it's about 300 jpgs, and 337MB zip file. http://www.anime.diaspora.ru/manga/ Googles Cache: http://216.239.51.100/search?q=cache:kL7rI1miR0UC: www.anime.diaspora.ru/manga/+&hl=en&ie=UTF -8 Ghost in the Shell desktops http://www.wallpapershq.com/gal.php?id=1433

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  22. the children of GITS by collapser · · Score: 2

    yeah, toren smith of studio proteus has said MMI is delayed due to bad copy from Japan.

    th reason the sequel has been so long in the making is that shirow said he wouldnt release it until it he had completed it: in other words, only when it was possible to collect it in one graphic novel.

    fair enough policy, but if thats the case, why didnt he stipulate graphic novel release over serialisation?

    i hate it when they try and drag not just money (which i dont mind so much) but Time out of us as well.

    and also, if they are not going to release Stand Alone Complex overseas NOW, then they shouldnt be surprised that SAC fansubs are floating around on the net.
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    I worry a little over the blurb for Innocence - to my mind its not a topic that Shirow concerned himself with.

    One things for sure, it looks like more than just -gratuitous- nudity this time 'round.. they making a whole film about it /:\
    (ie, i don't remember the need for kusanagi to get nude to use opto-cam in the manga)

    i'm getting a little bit worried and wonder if Shirow should exercise a little bit of creative control to protect his name.
    not that i'm a prude, but thats not what GITS was about in the first place. honestly.

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  23. Westernization of Manga by Hast · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The article talks about the problem of westernizing the manga. Why don't they just avoid the problem like Tokyopop has? Personally I actually prefer the back to front way of reading to a psuedocorrected format.

    Eg in the editorial notes to the manga "Blade - of the immortal" the problem is discussed. Here they also comment (brag) about how detailed their transition has been. They have tried not to mirror the images and instead swap places of the comic squares within the page so that they are read left to right. Naturally this means additional work as some parts can't be manupulated like this, and likewize can't simply be mirrored. Instead those parts have to be redrawn.

    But I still managed to find places where a person suddenly was sitting on the left side of the main character instead of the right. It just seems like a waste of time to me.

  24. Re:Other classics that need a second installment by RockyJSquirel · · Score: 2

    You meant 'vampire hunter D".

    There was a sequel. Unfortunately it was made in English only, with the worst cast of losers on the American side of the production ever.

    Hopefully the Japanese learned their lesson and will never trust fly by night LA idiots again.

    Rocky J. Squirrel