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Opera Gives That C64 Feel

howcome writes "Opera yesterday relased beta2 of the forthcoming 7.0 version. Opera now supports mulitple user style sheets and by selecting "Nostalgia" from the menu all web pages suddenly resemble Commodore 64 (screendump1 screendump2) from 20 years back. Also, there is a handheld emulator to see what a page will look like on a handheld device running Opera. To get you through Christmas, you can also use the "fast-forward" button. Try it on Google (screendump)!"

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  1. But what about the vic 20? by everyplace · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have fond memories of dialing up with the 300 baud modem hooked up to the old vic 20. When will I be able to relive that experience?

    1. Re:But what about the vic 20? by BitHive · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, I'm already reliving the speed of that experience...

    2. Re:But what about the vic 20? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      I'm living that right now. Opera.com seems to be nearly slashdotted.

      Slashdot: Forcing Websites To Emulate The 300-baud Experience.

    3. Re:But what about the vic 20? by everyplace · · Score: 5, Funny

      Nostalga Browser. That's a good one. Can we look forward to a new version that only supports a proprietary type of Nostalgia? And then I can use an alternative nostalgia browser to suppress unwanted memories from inadvertently popping up in my head when I remember something specific.

      I'm really looking forward to when my fond memories have to be signed with a digital certificate in order for me to remember them. You know, to remove the possibility that I might remember something incorrectly.

    4. Re:But what about the vic 20? by Moses+Lawn · · Score: 5, Funny

      Just support the Open Nostalgia Project. All memories in Ogg Vorbis format, live and streaming. gnostalgia is in early beta, and I hear KMemories is koming ksoon.

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  2. opera's dying by jonathanbearak · · Score: 5, Funny

    they've already lost 24 bits

  3. Cartridge Linux? by binaryDigit · · Score: 4, Funny

    Does this mean that someone is working on a cart based Linux distro? Can't wait to do tar backups on my cassette!

  4. Re:sadly, they are not the world's fastest anymore by oldwolf13 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    have you even used opera?

    the engine is still faster then anything else I've used, and I've just about tried them all (especially on older hardware).

    and as for opera not being the best... it's got quite a few people who've *actually* used it for awhile who believe it's far superior to anything else out there right now.

    One of the first things to go onto my machine is opera, no matter what OS I'm running.

    Sure, the c64 thing is silly... that's what it's intended to be... probably a coder just having some fun one day threw it in there as comic relief.

    get-a-grip (not the shoes)

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  5. Re:Business strategy by tps12 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I realize you are trolling here, but things are slow at work, so I'll just go ahead and answer anyway.

    If you can't be the best, do something kind of zany and creative in hopes of keeping your business afloat.

    Okay, maybe you have not used Opera lately, but many people, including smart people like Joel Sponsky, would argue that Opera is the best. Considering what a small market they're dealing with (those people who don't use IE and are willing to pay for a web browser), the fact that they're still around should be enough evidence of this.

    Hey, I guess they figured it works for Apple and could maybe work for them.

    Apple is simply meeting a niche demand for stylish computers that are almost as good a price/performance value as competing PCs. You pay a small premium for a stylish design, which is worth it to many people (e.g., people who wear nice athletic gear or drive Mitsubishis).

    I think you're either a) jealous that you can't afford Opera or an iMAC, or b) one of those Linux freaks who thinks they have a right to get everything for free. Either way, you're definitely not older than 16, so come back when you're grown up. Thanks.

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  6. Opera's new marketing campaign by AussieBastard · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Try Opera, and stay awhile... staayyy FOREVER!"

  7. For Handhelds and Cell Phones... by bhsx · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The new Embedded Opera looks fantastic for PDAs and cell phones, it basically reverses the zooming features and doesn't drop anything(except superfalous images), CSS, javascript, it's all in there. I hope us Zaurus users can get a free upgrade, I'm finally getting 802.11 for it in a few days ;)

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  8. But Opera has been getting smaller by Wee · · Score: 5, Informative
    Opera just made a mistake, in my opinion, with that. I liked how they kept the browser streamlined and stripped down; this new feature is, possibly, a sign of creeping featurism and surrender to the forces of software bloat.

    Have you been using Opera recently? Like over the last couple years? The new betas are really pretty speedy and also smaller than the 6.x release versions. I just downloaded the last beta and the latest production release. Here they are:

    [wee@host tmp]$ ls -l
    total 6836
    -rw------- 1 wee wee 3588280 Dec 18 16:06 ow32enen605.exe
    -rw------- 1 wee wee 3397867 Dec 18 16:05 ow32enen700b2.exe

    My boss and I were talking about this very topic. They've apparently re-written the rendering engine from the ground up. We suspect that they use the same engine in the desktop versions as in the embedded versions. Then they tack on JavaScript and Java and the various UI bits to make each platform-specific release.

    Whatever they do, they haven't succumbed to to creature feep. They've done just about the opposite: they started fresh and the result is a faster, leaner browser. Of course, I've only used the windows version a couple times, but it was noticeably nimbler than the 6.x Linux versions.

    -B

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    1. Re:But Opera has been getting smaller by Hektor_Troy · · Score: 5, Informative

      Well, I used 6.x up until 7.0b1 came out, and 7.0 is a lot faster on startup in particular. Like 1 second vs 5 - 8 seconds (this on a 866 MHz PIII with 384 MB RAM).

      Also 6.05 appeared to have a bug, that caused it's downloads to suck up all it's reasources if the server was fast enough, causing you not to be able to do anything while downloading. This is not the case with 7.0b1/2.

      It also has some very neat features with regards to testing websites, such as debug with outline etc. Also it's sidebar can display each and every link on a page.

      I like it. I like it a lot. I switched to Mozilla for a while but went back to Opera for several reasons, and 7.0 really solidifies Operas lead in my eyes. It would be nice however, if the stuff like e-mail and ICQ were plug-ins instead of built in. It might not make a difference wrt size or speed, but it'd be nice :-)

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  9. Re:Nostalgia! by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 5, Funny

    How many times is this?

    Enough. It's enough times now. Please, dear sweet Jesus, enough.

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  10. Re:Finally!!! by Proc6 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Use IE and Passport and you can browse like it's 1984.

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  11. Bleh by autopr0n · · Score: 4, Funny

    No amount of filtering can make slashdot look good.

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  12. Wheel mouse by BrookHarty · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Opera needs MS mouse scroll wheel support, and this is the main reason I wont use it. The response the developers posted, "use autoscroll" on MS mice.

    Get with the times, wheel mouse work with Mozilla/Phoenix/IE and Netscape, how about supporting it in Opera?

    BTW, I hear it works fine with logitech mice, but all I have is m$ rodents.

  13. opera's ui by farnsworth · · Score: 5, Interesting

    see this for well thought out appraisal of opera's ui, particularly vis-a-vis mozilla's ui.

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  14. Other new stuff by Fweeky · · Score: 5, Informative
    • Improved CSS support -- CSS menus now work pretty much as expected, overflow: scroll works better, and numerous other fixes.
    • Opera now has a password manager! Both HTTP auth and login forms can be saved and filled in automatically later. "Wand" is a bit of a cheesy name for it, though :)
    • Quick Download -- now instead of right clicking, hitting Download, waiting for file dialog to pop up and hitting Save, you right click, hit Quick Download, and it's done for you.
    • Links bar, similar to Mozilla's Page Info -> Links tab. It's a bit primitive at the moment, but it's nice to see they're working on stuff like this.
    • Fast Forward -- fancy <link rel="next"> UI gadget -- if a site uses said links, the Forward button is turned into a Next button, which is nice for browsing things like search results pages and blogs.
    • Improved skins support -- auto-install for new skins, more flexible for users (no more .ini editing if you want to rearrange your buttons, for instance), etc. Someone badly needs to Opera 7-ize Minimalist, though, I'm not a fan of the Aqua look, or the bare-bones "Windows" skin that ships with this beta.
    • The bookmark manager is back, and looking nicer than the Opera 6 one.

    I'm quite impressed with this second beta. With betas like this, IE7 better be damn good to not get yawned at :)
  15. Impossible Mission by DunbarTheInept · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It was called Impossible Mission. I was on a retro 64 kick about a year ago and downloaded Vice (a c64 emulator) and several game disk dumps from www.lemon64.com (sadly, they no longer host the actual game disks. I think they ran into legal trouble). Impossible Mission was one of the ones I downloaded.

    The truly sad thing is that I was able to beat it again. The first time I tried it. That's just...creepy.

    "Destroy Him, My Robots."
    *step* *step* *step* *BZzzzzzzssszzszzzt*
    *step* *step* *jump* "AaaaahhhhhhAAaHHhhhhhhhh..."

    That game was way ahead of it's time.

    I'd love to see a modern 3-D viewpoint version of it. I think with a behind-the-avataor camera viewpoint like Tomb Raider it would work well. And of course, the guy would have to do a flip every time you jumped, for no aparent reason.

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  16. Re:Is it just me... by Moses+Lawn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Don't worry, you can turn all of them off. All I have is the commands (without icons), window tabs, address bar, and status bar. You can turn off the icons, move things to the top or bottom or turn them off altogether, whatever you like. Once you register, the ad at the top goes away and the whole thing takes up no more real estate than any other useful app.

    I completely agree with you about the clutter. It's one of my biggest bitches about most modern software - everything is lousy with button bars, speedbars, coolbars, iconbars, minibars, whatever. The first thing I have to do after installing something is turn pretty much all of it off. KDE apps are particularly bad offenders here - the default layout of KWord gives me something like 8 lines of text. What really bugs me is that 80% of these buttons are useless. Does *anyone* ever use the toolbar icons for cut/paste/new file?

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  17. Great Feature by Uhh_Duh · · Score: 4, Interesting


    The nostalgia feature is great.. and completely useless. No wonder people don't take this web browser seriously.

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  18. 20 years ago?!?! by NineNine · · Score: 4, Funny

    Was the C 64 really around 20 years ago?!? It doesn't seem like that long ago when I was playing Bard's Tale on one. Jesus, 20 years ago, that makes me... oh I'm depressed now.

  19. PERFECTLY? *rofl* by freeweed · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The majority of websites today seem intent on popping up these annoying other windows, which I never requested. Strangely, in Opera I never see this problem.

    If having needless application windows showing up all the time is your idea of perfect, you can keep it - I'll take my 'imperfect' browser any day.

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  20. Re:Hey craaack smoker! by hkmwbz · · Score: 4, Informative
    FUD.

    Anyone can check Opera's specs pages and see that you are lying through your teeth about Opera 7 not being very standards compliant.

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