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New Red Hat Beta

Alkini writes "Red Hat just announced a new beta, codenamed Phoebe. Their highlight list includes Mozilla 1.2.1 with Xft antialiased fonts and glibc-2.3.1. The new beta can be downloaded from RH's FTP site or one of the mirrors."

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  1. Nice features by frooyo · · Score: 3, Informative

    First, this is old news at OSnews here but also ... here is a small list of features to come:

    Gnome 2.2
    New HTree enable filesystem for ext3 (speeds enhancement). The HTree feature makes file creation, deletion, and lookup faster. On filesystems that have HTree enabled, these file operations should not get significantly slower as the directory grows in size.
    XFree 4.3
    CUPS is default

    but also note SENDMAIL is now only configured for LOCALHOST, if you want to serve you have to do some modifications:
    To use Sendmail as a server
    By default, the Sendmail mail transport agent (MTA) does not accept network connections from any host other than the local computer. If you want to configure Sendmail as a server for other clients, you must edit /etc/mail/sendmail.mc and change the DAEMON_OPTIONS line to also listen on network devices (or comment out this option entirely using the dnl comment delimiter). You must then regenerate /etc/mail/sendmail.cf by running the following command (as root): m4 /etc/mail/sendmail.mc > /etc/mail/sendmail.cf Note that you must have the sendmail-cf package installed for this to work.

    The RELEASE NOTES can be found HERE

    NOTE: There has been problems upgrading if one if using Ximian Gnome, you must uninstall then reinstall using Gnome form gnome.org

    1. Re:Nice features by fymidos · · Score: 2, Informative

      Sendmail was like this from 7.2 if i recall..

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  2. There goes my bandwidth by Znonymous+Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    I was downloading at 300k till all the mirrors were slashdotted. Oh well, might as well Karma Whore.

    Note: Remove spaces from URLs:

    Soviet Russia
    ftp://ftp.chg.ru/pub/Linux/redhat/linux/be ta/phoeb e/
    http://ftp.chg.ru/pub/Linux/redhat/linux/beta/ phoe be/

    Canada
    ftp://ftp.nrc.ca/pub/systems/linux/redha t/ftp.redh at.com/linux/beta/phoebe/

    USA East
    ftp://ftp.rutgers.edu/pub/redhat/linux/beta/ phoebe /
    ftp://mirror.eas.muohio.edu/mirrors/redhat/linu x/b eta/phoebe/
    ftp://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/red hat/linux/bet a/
    http://www.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/redhat/linu x/be ta/phoebe/
    ftp://redhat.dulug.duke.edu/pub/redhat /linux/beta/ phoebe/
    ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/redhat/lin ux/beta/p hoebe/
    http://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/redhat/lin ux/beta/ phoebe/
    ftp://mirror.cs.princeton.edu/pub/mirrors /redhat/l inux/beta/phoebe/
    ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/ beta/phoebe/
    ftp://chuck.ucs.indiana.edu/pub/linu x/redhat/redha t/linux/beta/phoebe/
    ftp://mirror.pa.msu.edu/linu x/redhat/linux/beta/ph oebe/
    ftp://ftp.cse.buffalo.edu/pub/Linux/redhat/ redhat/ linux/beta/phoebe/
    ftp://kickstart.linux.ncsu.edu /pub/redhat/linux/be ta/phoebe/

    USA Central
    ftp://linux.nssl.noaa.gov/linux/redhat/li nux/beta/ phoebe/
    ftp://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/red hat/linux /beta/phoebe/
    http://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/ pub/redhat/linu x/beta/phoebe/
    rsync://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.ed u/pub/redhat/lin ux/beta/phoebe/
    ftp://mirror.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirr ors/linux/redhat/ beta/phoebe/
    ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/redhat/ redhat/linux/b eta/phoebe/
    http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/redhat/linu x/beta/phoebe /
    http://redhat.netnitco.net/redhat/linux/beta/ph oeb e/

    USA West
    ftp://limestone.uoregon.edu/redhat/beta/phoe be/

    Pacific
    Australia
    ftp://planetmirror.com/pub/r edhat/linux/beta/phoeb e/
    ftp://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/redhat/redha t/li nux/beta/phoebe/
    http://redhat.pacific.net.au/red hat/linux/beta/pho ebe/

    Hawaii
    ftp://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mirrors/redha t/linux/be ta/phoebe/

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  3. Re:Another Redhat, more Microsoftalike? by blakestah · · Score: 3, Informative

    Can you say me where i can get WMP for RedHat please ?


    Here

    Any other questions ?

  4. Re:Does this mean... by Tomah4wk · · Score: 2, Informative

    we might finally see java and other plugins compiled for glibc 2.3? Those have been lacking for quite a while now. They havent, blackdown has been producing them. Their version (especially java web start) is much better than that produced by Sun. And its based off of the sun sources before you ask.

  5. Re:Phobe? by ACK!! · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually its Phoebe like the character from Friends.

    The joke in the changelog or release notes go like this:

    "You know, Chandler, you being here is the best gift I could
    ask for Christmas."

    "Aww. Thanks Pheebs."

    "Ok, now where's my real present?"

    It is right there in the link on the story if you take a look. Going to wait on this one. Got my 8.0 box running right and just updated the kernel not going to jump right now unless I get a good reason.

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  6. Put blame where it belongs... by Kjella · · Score: 4, Informative

    MP3 support is due to Fraunhofer licencing.

    Nvidia drivers is due to Nvidia licencing.

    DMA support, extra menu and NTFS support I agree is things RedHat should fix. But they can't do much about the rest.

    Kjella

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  7. Re:If RedHat versioned honestly... by ramirez · · Score: 3, Informative

    >RH6.2 - stable
    >RH7.3 - beta
    >RH8.0 - alpha
    >
    >I just got done evaluating 7.3 for use
    >on our production boxes, and the decision is
    >to stick with 6.2. Anyone else have issues
    >with RH releases above (or before) 6.2?

    Not really. I've had no trouble running 7.3 for both workstations and servers. What issues did 7.3 have that you found unacceptable?

    I'm currently testing 8.0, and so far so good. At least after the latest patches and compiling my own kernel.

    One thing I did notice about 8.0 is that it would be nice if you could create LVM physical volumes on top of a RAID partition in their installer, but that is easy enough to do after the fact.

  8. Don't forget kernel.org by caluml · · Score: 3, Informative

    Kernel.org mirrors Debian and Redhat. Or didn't you know? Plus they've moved from 100 to 250Mb/sec

    Grab em while they're hot.
    http://mirrors.kernel.org/redhat/redhat/linux/beta /phoebe/
    Don't forget to use your local mirror from kernel.org if the main one gets slow. I find .pk and .ph are fast for me in the UK, believe it or not.

    This is not whoring. It's showing people an alternative source for the future.

  9. Re:8.0 was great, but... by MSG · · Score: 3, Informative

    MP3 Licence costs USD 60k even BEOS could afford it.. Redhat can't ?

    Doesn't matter, licensing MP3 technology from Thompson is not an option. The GPL requires that all recipients of the software be free to use the software in any way (including resale) without license fees. If that can not be the case, as with patent fees, then the software can simply not be distributed. It's very clear on this, so the GPL does not allow anyone to redistribute MP3 software in areas where it is patented and requires that license fees be paid to Thompson for commercial use. The GPL was an inappropriate license for those pieces of software, if their goal was for redistribution everywhere. The software can still be redistributed in places where the MP3 technology is not patented, though.

    I have source NVIDIA GLX and kernel tarballs here.

    Yes, and those source tarballs contain a binary only module compiled with gcc 3.0 (which is known to cause problems, mixing gcc 3.2 kernel with modules from earlier compiler is a no-no) and a couple of source files which glue it in to the kernel's API. Red Hat is not free to redistribute them, and they would not even if they were free to do so. Without the source, Red Hat can not support the drivers.

  10. Re:I was hoping they would wait. by lunenburg · · Score: 4, Informative

    I think Redhat is still dumb as shit regarding KDE. Both X and GNOME-2.2 have not yet been released as stable versions, so they could very well have added KDE-3.1rc6.

    Did you even bother doing basic research before flapping your yap?

    ncftp ...en/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS > pwd
    ftp://beta:PASSWORD@ftp.beta.redhat.com/pub/redhat /linux/beta/phoebe/en/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS/
    ncftp ...en/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS > ls kde* ...
    kdebase-3.1-0.9.i386.rpm
    kdebase-devel-3.1-0 .9.i386.rpm
    kdebindings-3.1-0.3.i386.rpm
    kdebind ings-devel-3.1-0.3.i386.rpm
    kdeedu-3.1-0.3.i386.r pm
    kdeedu-devel-3.1-0.3.i386.rpm ...

    Looks like just another "Red Hat is eeevil" fool.

  11. Re:8.0 was great, but... by binner1 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Try in Nautilus: Ctrl+L and enter applications:///

    It's not obvious, but it seems that menu editing and arrangement are done through Nautilus now, as opposed to a stand-along menu manager.

    I could be wrong on this, so please correct me if I am.

    -Ben

  12. Re:super hi rez applications by tempfile · · Score: 3, Informative

    Too small text doesn't come from high physical resolutions, but from a wrong logical one. If you crank up your physical resolution, you have to adjust the dpi settings (called "User Defined Font Size" in Windows). A typical 17" running at 1152x864 has approx. 100 dpi, with 1600x1200, you're up to 140.

    Higher physical resolution means finer text, not smaller one.

  13. My comments.... by Micah · · Score: 3, Informative

    Looking at the package list...

    On the surface it seems good that they're upgrading to Mozilla 1.2.1, but I've had several problems with it compared to 1.0.1. It doesn't display updates to some XUL properties correctly after they update with JavaScript (Yes, I filed it... Bugzilla #185432). Also, it's not caching anything. If I press the BACK button or View Source, it always reloads the page. That's bad news.

    OpenOffice.org -- fine now at 1.0.1, but I think the OOo folks are planning a bugfix release soon. Hopefully that will make it in the final release. OOo in RH8 has, for me, crashed the whole X server several times when scrolling around in certain Word and Excel documents. The development branch 643C fixes that problem. Has that happened to anyone else?

    Anyone know what "musicbrainz" and "redland" are?

    PHP: still at 4.2.2. Apache: still at 2.0.40. PHP 4.3 sounds like it will have a boatload of improvements. They're including beta versions of KDE, Gnome, and X (which will probably be finalized by release date), so why not PHP? And Apache has had several updates since then.

    PostgreSQL 7.3. Nice, but upgrading requires a dump and restore. Is that a wise thing to do inside the 8.x series?

    Why don't they include SDL_ttf??? Several programs require it. For 8.0, I couldn't find a binary RPM and had to build a source RPM. That worked, except that it conflicted with a /usr/bin/showfont that was already installed. That's not too cool.

    Overall, it looks like it will definitely be better than 8.0, but not a revolutionary upgrade.

  14. Re:I was hoping they would wait. by CondeZer0 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Why don't you check your facts before posting?

    1) As others have pointed out, this is a *Beta*, RedHat 8.0.92 to be exact, so many things can change between now and when 8.1 is released
    2) This beta actually *includes* KDE 3.1(RC5 or CVS I guess) see http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=redh at or check the RPMs in the FTP, or install the damn thing!
    3) This is *exactly* the same as with Gnome, the beta includes the latest Gnome 2.1(from CVS I think), that by the time 8.1 final is released will become Gnome 2.2(and the same is also true for XFree 4.3)
    4) KDE on RedHat is/was not "crippled", I will not bother arguing about this, but if you think the version in 8.0 was "crippled", then doesn't mater what version they ship in the next release you will think the same.
    5) You can be sure that RedHat 8.1 final release will include KDE 3.1, you may think that it's still "crippled" though...
    (BTW, Gnome 2.2 and KDE 3.1 are both looking very good, I'm sure RH8.1 will be a great release, even better than 8.0, and 8.0 was already very nice)

    Hope this sets some facts straight, BTW, I don't even run Linux or KDE/Gnome on my boxes(I administer a few RedHat desktops running both KDE and Gnome at work though), I love my FreeBSD box with Ion, just hate to see people spreading misinformation.

    Best wishes and do some research before you post next time!

    \\Uriel

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