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MAME for SonyEricsson's P800 Smartphone

Posted by CmdrTaco on from the bring-it-on dept.

Peter writes "You may find it interesting to know that I've just released a port of MAME for SonyEricsson's latest P800 smartphone. It's called EMame" 'Cuz if there is one thing my cel phone was lacking, it's asteroids, Ms. Pac-Man, and Joust. Delicious.

117 comments

  1. ring...ring...DMCA Calling by axis-techno-geek · · Score: 2, Funny
    It's like Avon, but without the sales pitch ;)

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    1. Re:ring...ring...DMCA Calling by Gordonjcp · · Score: 2

      Guess what? Most of the world *doesn't* have the DMCA. It's only in the Land of the "Free" that you can be locked up for knowing how to decypher ROT-13.

    2. Re:ring...ring...DMCA Calling by axis-techno-geek · · Score: 2
      It was a joke son... yur' spos' to laugh

      Not being from the US, but living next door, I can just imagine being arrested at the border for possessing "illegal" material.

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    3. Re:ring...ring...DMCA Calling by Gordonjcp · · Score: 2

      Ok, ok... It can be hard to tell, around here...

      BTW, congratulations on getting first post - probably the first sensible front-page first post for three years.

    4. Re:ring...ring...DMCA Calling by Cpt_Kirks · · Score: 2

      The DoJ doesn't want to admit it, but the Russians just blew a big smoking hole in the DMCA.

      Maybe the Supremes will finish it off now. But I doubt it.

    5. Re:ring...ring...DMCA Calling by Gordonjcp · · Score: 2

      Yay! Hopefully...

      I feel really sorry for you people, stuck in a country where the government is 0wn3d by the big money...

  2. Oh good by (trb001) · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    As if just talking on the phone wasn't bad enough, now I have to worry about the yo-yo in front of me trying to beat his high score in pac-man while driving. Thanks, dude.

    --trb

  3. In this time... by Oculus+Habent · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    In this time of technological advancement, we must ask ourselves....

    Have we gone too far??

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  4. P900 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh man: now I've *really* got a reason to upgrade!

  5. Well .... by watzinaneihm · · Score: 1

    But why P800?

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    1. Re:Well .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But why not the P800?

    2. Re:Well .... by Library+Spoff · · Score: 1

      err maybe it's the big colour(4096) screen, the 12MB memory, the java etc etc..

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    3. Re:Well .... by thammoud · · Score: 1

      The app is written in C. I wonder about the wisdom about an app that is compiled to a single phone. Especially a phone that has not even been released.

    4. Re:Well .... by FyRE666 · · Score: 2

      The app is written in C. I wonder about the wisdom about an app that is compiled to a single phone. Especially a phone that has not even been released
      Well although I use Java for phone games, I can see that C would be a better bet for this. (A) because it will run faster on the relatively slow processor, and (B) because MAME is written in C already, so it would need to be completely rewritten for Java, rather than ported with most of the existing code unchanged!!

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    5. Re:Well .... by ncostigan · · Score: 1

      its not tied to a single phone. the phone operating system is symbian . quite powerful and used by a quite a few other phones and the psion PDAs.

  6. wOOO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    woot

    fuck you all and your dmca i want games!

    not!

    cellphones are a terrible idea

  7. Re:Slashdot ads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The goatse guy likes the Xbox

  8. Games for eMAME by Oculus+Habent · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What we need now is to establish a pay-service for downloading games for eMAME so bored phone owners can peruse a selection of games, buy one, download it and use it immediately.

    What do you think, $0.75 per download?

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    1. Re:Games for eMAME by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      >What we need now is to establish a pay-service for downloading games for eMAME so bored phone owners can peruse a selection of games, buy one, download it and use it immediately. What do you think, $0.75 per download?

      I'd be willing to pay 1$US for every game I use on my MAME cabinet. Of course, that 1$ would be for a license so I can use the game on ALL my MAME-Compatible hardware (be it my cabinet, PC, cellphone, Gameboy Advance, etc)

      Heck, is there MAME for the GBA? Someone port it plz!

    2. Re:Games for eMAME by brightertimes · · Score: 2, Informative

      I wouldn't worry about getting the games for the sony p800.. The phone has not been released yet. It was supposed to be released sometime soon but the latest rumours point to March 2002. Ah well... :)

    3. Re:Games for eMAME by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about just hosting it yourself for free? Rather than paying companies who got their money back many times over, and don't exist anymore anyway.

      At least, that's what i'd do.

      Just sort out a gnutella/freenet reader for the pda and you're sorted.

    4. Re:Games for eMAME by djonsson · · Score: 1

      It's released in Sweden. I bought one a week ago.

    5. Re:Games for eMAME by JasonAsbahr · · Score: 1

      Great idea, but wouldn't folks just download the ROMs for free?

  9. Great! by FungiSpunk · · Score: 1

    Now all the rom sites/ftps will be full of Mobby users dialing up for copies of Defender and trying to run KOF99!

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    1. Re:Great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How the heck are you going to play Defender on a cell phone? The controls on the arcade game were hard enough; my hands couldn't cover all the buttons and the height lever. Now the controls are just too tiny!

      And then add the invisibility button from Stargate Defender.......

  10. Is it me by TerryAtWork · · Score: 3, Funny

    Or is this video-games-over the phone thing the geekiest thing you have ever seen?

    What the hell is the matter with us? GET AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER ONCE IN A WHILE.

    And I say this as a primordial geek from back before there was dirt. (The 70s)

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    1. Re:Is it me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >What the hell is the matter with us? GET AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER ONCE IN A WHILE.

      Dude, why do you think he ported MAME to a cellphone? So we can get away from the computer but still be able to play those cool classic oldskool games! ;-)

      It's also a good way to get a woman's attention! (Okay, maybe not)

    2. Re:Is it me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >GET AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER ONCE IN A WHILE.

      Yeah, so you're on the plane/train/bus, getting away, and you're too tired to read, the movie is shit, you`ve checked your email to see if you'll be picked up at the other end. And you spend 2 mins playing pacman/asteroids? You got a problem with that, mr ladies man?

    3. Re:Is it me by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 2

      All my friends made fun of me having AOL/IM on my phone.

      They stopped making fun of me once I told them it had gotten me laid.

      Don't get me wrong, I don't intend to ever play a video game on my cell phone. Because I carry my iBook and iPod with me everywhere. All these toys make my life much, much more interesting, productive, and enjoyable. So, once all y'all old geeks die off, and the nation is populated by people that were using cell phones and touch typing in grade school, we won't have to listen to y'all's luddite complaints anymore.

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    4. Re:Is it me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what you're saying is that the old geeks are going to die off and be replaced by Skript Kiddies?

      Eris help us.

  11. Cel? I want a cel phone. by sQuEeDeN · · Score: 1

    Anything that's cel-shaded is okay by me... But seriously folks, with cell phones getting more and more powerful, soon you'lre gonna see overclockers with heatsinks out the back of their phones bragging about their Asterioids FPS.

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  12. new way to avoid tickets by Shymon · · Score: 4, Funny
    "But officer i didn't relize i was speeding, i was too busy playing pac-man on my cell phone."

    "using a cell phone is no excu....did you say Pac Man? sweet!..."

    1. Re:new way to avoid tickets by zonker · · Score: 0

      not if you live in new york... they have a no cell phone while driving law and you are more likely to get that ticket... (i understand you were joking however =) )

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  13. beep beep, beep beep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    u rcvd a txt msg frm
    +4411791234978.

    "You have been caught running Lunix on your phone, you will now be punnished by the carnivous gnu hurd(i mean herd)"

  14. Re:Slashdot ads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If the goatse.cx guy wanted to pay for the ads, or someone with money on their hands in his stead...

    They might still get pulled for inappropriate content.

    There's nothing wrong with Microsoft ads. If you can't deal with the fact that Microsoft is a real company, too, no matter how much you want them to be the face of evil in this world, then you should A) find a different place to complain (the middle of an empty field or deep in the woods is good...) or B) find another hobby/occupation/interest.

  15. Another Reason by Ashetos · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Another reason why palm and WinCE are on their way out. This what its all about: "convergence".
    Ever since getting the P800's cheper brother, the T68i, I've never looked back. Now I no longer have to carry around my palm pilot and keep my appointments and contacts on a tiny, tiny device.

    1. Re:Another Reason by Mac+Degger · · Score: 2

      That's what you say now...but in two months time, I'll be able to play Civilization on my Palm! Yes, Sid Meier's Civilisation! W000000t! Do that on your p800 or t68i :)

      Check it out: http://www.redshift.hu/

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    2. Re:Another Reason by Catullus · · Score: 1

      Actually, you can already play Civilization on the Nokia 9210 and 9290 - check out this game.

    3. Re:Another Reason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Woohoo!! That roxors!

      +1 INFORMATIVE

    4. Re:Another Reason by jzaw · · Score: 1

      where???
      I want a p800 so that itll be my pda/phone and use iTooth (© Dizzykey [tongue]) to sync with my Mac

      are you in the uk?
      what sort of deal did you get?

      pls pls let me know!!!

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    5. Re:Another Reason by juuri · · Score: 2

      It will more than likely end up on the p800. The phone is significantly more powerful than your Palm.

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    6. Re:Another Reason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny. I bought my T68i with two things in mind: 1) make phonecalls, 2) give my iPaq a wireless (bluetooth) connection to the net.

      I guess it depends on what you used your PDA for: if keeping a contact list is all, I agree a phone can be used just as well.

    7. Re:Another Reason by Mac+Degger · · Score: 2

      Uh...both done by the same company, dude.

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  16. Is it just me... by perly-king-69 · · Score: 2, Funny

    or is the one thing worse than a train full of mobile phones ringing is a train full of mobile phones on full volume on which asteriods/pacman/crappy 80's game being played? Beep , beep-beep, beep, beep-beep-beep AAAAARRRRGGGHH.

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  17. Pole Position by jhampson · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now you can simultaneously wreck in the game and in the car. Weeeoooooh!

  18. Re:Cel? I want a cel phone. by Skater · · Score: 1

    Ever hear of the PDA that they ported Doom to? Apparently the PDA had a motion detector of some sort, so you would reload or fire by swinging the PDA toward you.

    Many cell phones have a vibrate option, which would be useful in games. Combine that with the motion detector, and a cell phone could be a LOT of fun!

    --RJ

  19. No, a quarter! by Chazmati · · Score: 4, Informative

    I think $0.25 just like it used to be: nostalgic price for a nostalgic game. Yeah, there was inflation, but there's also Moore's law (meaning today's arcade games are much more sophisticated, even if they're not better for it).

    1. Re:No, a quarter! by MrPippers · · Score: 1

      Playing Galaga or Pac-Man in the arcade now costs 50 cents if you can even find a machine! I get a good laugh that they charge twice as much 20 years later.

  20. Now thats what I call a port... by Library+Spoff · · Score: 1

    i'm currently looking to upgrade my mobile and this could swing it...

    you can keep snake...
    I want Crystal Castles/tempest etc etc

    now why are people complaining about this ? as i've said in other posts; you shouldn't be driving and talking/Txt'ng/gaming.

    plenty of people commute by Bus/train/tram so if we want to play games let us.

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  21. Re:Slashdot ads? by mirko · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I know, this is offtopic but I'll bite.
    In France, you can be sued if you refuse to sell something to a customer.
    In our case, Slashdot sell advertising space and can't refuse to sell it to Microsoft.
    I guess, in the USA, OSDN could also be sued for refusing to put their banners.

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  22. Better get this first... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    'Cuz if there is one thing my cel phone was lacking, it's asteroids, Ms. Pac-Man, and Joust. Delicious.


    Before you get anything for your "cel phone", how about getting a spell checker for your computer. It is almost 2003, you know...

  23. FPS on your cell phone by Oculus+Habent · · Score: 2

    You know, it's somewhat sad to think of right now, but we will probably see cell phones with nVidia chipsets rivaling our currently mid/high range graphics cards in the next five years.

    Hopefully not too soon, mind you, but as we integrate more functions into a cell phone, we will probably find a few of them used as a video-conferencing device (use your headset and set/hold the phone in front of you) as well as representational 3D models of urban areas for the ultra-expensive GPS navigation systems.

    PDA's will get there sooner, and PocketPC computers should be there any time now (all that advanced business modeling...) - wouldn't it be interesting to be an architect oe engineer and take fully editable designs with you in your pocket?

    Maybe I'm just crazy.

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    1. Re:FPS on your cell phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      its all been done. Well, not nVidia standard, but over in Europe (i'm assuming you're in the USA where things are like 6 years behind) we have colour games, java, the always on GPRS system, cameras etc on phones.

      Don't worry-you'll catch up one day! ;)

    2. Re:FPS on your cell phone by Tenebrious1 · · Score: 3, Funny

      but we will probably see cell phones with nVidia chipsets rivaling our currently mid/high range graphics cards in the next five years.

      Heh heh...

      "Hello? Speak up, I can't hear you! What? You gotta speak up, I can't hear you over the cooling fan noise!"

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    3. Re:FPS on your cell phone by Mac+Degger · · Score: 2

      Well, 3d chipsets are already being developed for mobile devices. But trust me...unless I can get a big (roll-out) screen, I do NOT want to check/edit my construction drawings on my palm: screensize is just to small to be practical.

      As for taking them with me...can do already...just chuck 'em into the memory and take em to work.

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  24. Profit Margin by perly-king-69 · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is probably the exact reason why Orange's MS Smartphones will only run 'signed' applications - ie you must pay Orange/MS before your app will run on their smartphones. The telecoms operator can then lock-out apps (such as this) which could eat into their profit margin. Downloadable (pay-per-play) mobile games are allegedly going to be next years big thing in the mobile world.

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    1. Re:Profit Margin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So get a phone which runs Java apps/games! Then they can lock out all their shite, and i can get stuff for free.

      "Downloadable (pay-per-play) mobile games are allegedly going to be next years big thing in the mobile world."

      Yeah, right. I`d be careful to check the track record of people making claims for the future in IT.

    2. Re:Profit Margin by perly-king-69 · · Score: 1
      >>"Downloadable (pay-per-play) mobile games are allegedly going to be next years big thing in the mobile world."

      Yeah, right. I`d be careful to check the track record of people making claims for the future in IT.

      It's certainly on of the main things the mobile operators are going to be selling over the next year or so.

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    3. Re:Profit Margin by nchip · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You can do this J2ME too.. Operator justs blocks all but their (pay-per-play) apps at their wap gateway. most phones can install applications only over WAP, so the only games user will be able to get are the ones operator sells.

      But most operators won't do that, if they have learned anything from the WAP fiasco. Nobody used WAP when you had to pay for everything. You had to pay for both traffic and content. Then operators slowly opened their wap gateways and allowed people to access any wap content in the net. As the result, people are starting use WAP, and the operators are starting to get money from the wap traffic.

      charging people for using even the simplest games/apps is a great way to make people feel being ripped of.

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  25. Re:Slashdot ads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is not true in the United States. OSDN just likes money. But who doesn't?

  26. Controls? by Mwongozi · · Score: 2
    How is one supposed to control this thing? The P800 doesn't actually have any buttons, it's just one giant touch screen, and the eMame home page is strangely unforthcoming.

    Otherwise, it's a great idea, old arcade games like Pac-man are an excellent way to kill time on the bus, train, etc.

    1. Re:Controls? by jasperc · · Score: 1

      The P800 has a 5-way scroll dial. That's right, FIVE-way. So you can use that as a joystick.

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    2. Re:Controls? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.yipton.net has been updated to satisfy the curious

  27. Delicious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Delicious.

    I've always loved that Zapp Brannigan line.

    Crawling back like a bird on its belly - delicious.

  28. Interesting Phone... by avi4now · · Score: 1

    I haven't seen this phone before, it seems to be getting closer to the "convergence" ideal - it's a single, pocketable device that is a:

    • phone
    • computer / pim
    • camera
    • music player

    All it needs now is voice recognition, a fast processor, and tons of storage, and it can do all those things better and be a video camera too.

    1. Re:Interesting Phone... by perly-king-69 · · Score: 1
      Just see how great it'll seem when it gets stolen...

      K.I.S.S.?

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    2. Re:Interesting Phone... by Catullus · · Score: 1

      Actually, it does do voice recognition (for dialling, anyway), it uses Memory Stick Duo (tons of storage, albeit expensive), and it can be a video camera :)

  29. Multi-player games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I remember mame has a multiplayer network version.
    Maybe they are going to install a multi-player
    version that will allow you to play with
    other people (and thus pay for the badwidth).

  30. Re:Slashdot ads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yes, im an anonymous coward....

    quote:
    "I know, this is offtopic but I'll bite.
    In France, you can be sued if you refuse to sell something to a customer.
    In our case, Slashdot sell advertising space and can't refuse to sell it to Microsoft.
    I guess, in the USA, OSDN could also be sued for refusing to put their banners."

    no, if you put in your advertising terms that you retain the right to refuse certain adverts if you consider them inappropriate you can get away with it :-).

  31. Re:The Hidden Taco by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He uses MacOS X. What more proof do you need??

  32. It doesn't matter how much it is because... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...I'm sure /.ers would find a way to download games for $0.00!

  33. One thing? by Darlington · · Score: 5, Funny
    'Cuz if there is one thing my cel phone was lacking, it's asteroids, Ms. Pac-Man, and Joust.

    Math isn't my strong suit, but I'm pretty sure that's three things...

    1. Re:One thing? by addaon · · Score: 2

      Gee, and I just thought he was being clever. I thought it was a Barton Fink reference. Too much movies for me!

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    2. Re:One thing? by MobileC · · Score: 1

      Your middle name is "Monty Python" isn't it.

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  34. MAME - every electroinic product's killer app... by Hirofyre · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think any more, you can measure a device's horsepower, all you have to do is ask yourself "Will it run MAME?" First it was PC/Mac/LINUX/BeOS, then it was Dreamcast/GBA/etc. Next came digital cameras, now cel phones. You can almost measure the advancement of a platform purely by when it will run MAME.

  35. I am wating for the day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They fit every device you'll ever need into a contact lens or retinal implant.

  36. Games for mobile phones by FlynnMP3 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I agree that the current market is going to try and put games on phones. But I ask you, WHY? - other than the obvious "this is a new way to fleece the customers".

    I am an avid gamer, but I cannot not even imagine playing a quality game on a phone. Reasons:

    1) Note I said quality. No, this doesn't mean the latest and greatest graphics or AI. The old arcade games almost fill the bill, but my game tastes have progressed beyond "Galaga", "Tempest", and "Asteroids".
    2) Even if there is a good game I might want to play on a mobile phone, how long do you think I could actually play it? Battery life in mobile phones is pretty pathetic.

    Sony is putting out a version of Everquest for a mobile phone. It is still in the proposed state, but they are already hyping it. Hell, the protocol for the game doesn't even exist yet, it's still being actively developed.

    I realize that the marketing will target a much younger consumer than codgy old me, but there are still lots of hurdles before the gaming industry can enter the mobile phone industry with style.

    -FlynnMP3

    1. Re:Games for mobile phones by JasonAsbahr · · Score: 1

      And the EverQuest phone game looks nothing like EQ for PC, it's a simple 2D top-down maze game, the only thing they have in common is the logo.

  37. Re:Slashdot ads? by oneirogen · · Score: 1

    since when are "real company" and "the face of evil" mutually exclusive? i think its more probable that they're synonyms...

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  38. Wise if you've have one by DrSkwid · · Score: 2

    & tough if you don't

    I suspect the guy at least has one for himself!

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  39. P800? by Pope · · Score: 1

    I don't see what's so great about this, when in a couple of years the P1000 will be able to shape shift to match the contours of your head perfectly.

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  40. Did anyone say PHONE ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yup - I can see it happening already.

    $0.75 for a license, plus $2.50 per megabyte GPRS download cost.

  41. This is why I don't have a pen phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wish at least one cell phone company would work on creating a useable, tiny cell phone instead of trying to convert my cell phone into a PDA.

    The first one to come out with a "Man from U.N.C.L.E" pen phone is going to get a lot of business.

  42. Cheap plug: XCade first arcade emulator for Palm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting


    See here:
    http://www.codejedi.com

    First arcade emulator for Palm OS :)

    *duck*

  43. And the best part by nizo · · Score: 1

    The best part will be trying to explain to everyone what you are doing with your phone. "I am playing Pacman. The little yellow dot is me, the red/pink/orange dots are chasing me, and I am looking for the last dot which is so tiny, I can't even see it."

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  44. w00t by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Proof-reading trolls win again! Doesn't Linux have a spell-checker? Aspell? Ispell? Is it too hard to use?

  45. bluetooth anybody? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can anyone imagine a small, portable bluetooth joystick to control things?

  46. We're not making quota today. by Hubert_Shrump · · Score: 2

    Four hundred non-hackers need to comment as to "Why is this necessary?".

    And the Ask Slashdot hasn't been properly mocked, we need some optical techs over there, please.

    C'mon - we will NEVER catch up once the stories about all the christmas XP computers exploding start pouring in.

    Someone go over to the Disney makes dinosaurs story and get them off their asses.

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  47. Yeh, but the P800 is STILL not available yet! by Wonderkid · · Score: 1
    The P800 is not due for release anywhere until next year, so why do we keep reading about apps for it? By the time it is launched, other phones will be out, such as Motorola's amazing phone whose model number escapes me right now (swivel camera, triband, MP3 player, video player, bluetooth etc). Siemens have branded the Motorola as the U10 by the way. It does have a smaller screen, so probably not so well suited to complex applications, but certainly be excellent for gaming. Here it is:

    Siemens U10

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  48. P800 price and availability? by billmil · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    This is somewhat off-topic, but I'm looking for a new phone/pda combo and can't find diddly about the price/availability of the P800.

    Another poster said, 'sometime next year'...but what about price info?

    1. Re:P800 price and availability? by juuri · · Score: 2

      Right now they are selling for $800 unlocked and imported. The dev edition is 1k with kit.

      Price will be around $500 or so with activation.

      Check http://www.expansys.com/ to find the latest phone stuff for sale.

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  49. Shurely that's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    four hundred hackers.

    Games, we don't need no steenking games... we run Linux!

  50. Keep the Consumer's Mind off Phone Service by Civil_Disobedient · · Score: 1

    Cool idea, certainly, but...

    Anyone ever think that the only reason cellphone companies are putting games on your phone is to mask the fact that actual phone functions are absolutely terrible? I can't use my SprintPCS in most office buildings, and get dropouts all the time walking down the streets (of NYC, but still). But hey, at least I can play Galaga. Whoop-dee-fuckin-doo.

  51. Convergence will not happen. by Civil_Disobedient · · Score: 1

    The idea of convergence falls flat when you take into account product specialization. While you can cram a bunch of relatively crappy versions of modern technology into a small form-factor, each of the products on their own have certain specialities that don't work in conjunction with the other.

    For example, a computer needs a keyboard. Sure, you can use Grafitti to enter in your appointments, but if you're going to be programming or designing advertisement campaigns or writing a novel, you need a computer. A camera does not, however. What a camera needs is a really good lens. A really good lens doesn't help much with telephone reception, however.

    What I'm getting at is that if you don't have any vested interest in any of the said technologies -- that is, if you just take pictures of your friends, listen to MP3's on the subway, write down people's phone numbers occasionally -- then an all-in-one device will probably suit you fine. As a photographer, a programmer, and a taper (concerts), such a device would be useless to me.

  52. Re:MAME - every electroinic product's killer app.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    time to introduce gCubix, the ultimate emulator :

    http://www.kwyxz.org/artwork/gcubix

    enjoy !

  53. Some corrections. by juuri · · Score: 2

    The phone is already out in a few selected countries and anyone can order the dev version + kit right now.

    You can expect it to hit the UK streets sometime mid January... and it does everything the motorola does.

    The problem is this thing is going to be fricken expensive SIM unlocked, upwards of $700.

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    1. Re:Some corrections. by JasonAsbahr · · Score: 1

      When you say the phone is "unlocked", what are you referring to?

      Thanks!

      Jason

    2. Re:Some corrections. by Peterl · · Score: 1

      Many vendors (AT&T WS in the States, anyway) will sell you a phone for less then street value, but they lock the phone so that it will only work with a SIM card from them. This prevents one from buying a discount phone from them and reselling it or switching to another network.

      Of course, most any phone can be unlocked over the net these days.

  54. MAME and MS Flight Simulator by Sotto_Zero · · Score: 1
    Remember the time Microsoft Flight Simulator was used to prove that a clone PC was actualy compatible and capable of running (ugh!) the most complex PC programs?

    Today MAME and DOOM are used for the same purpose. If you can port MAME or DOOM, then the platform is good enough.

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    1. Re:MAME and MS Flight Simulator by Sotto_Zero · · Score: 1

      I almost forgot.
      The real reason why someone would port MAME to a cellphone?
      "Because I can".
      ;)

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  55. Snake by xmda · · Score: 1

    A long time ago, someone created the game Snake on some computer.

    Many years later Nokia put Snake into their mobile phones.

    Some time after that, you could play the web-version of that Nokia Snake-phone version game (i.e. the exact same game as on the phone, same controls, same graphics etc)

    Now, what happens if someone tried to run this web-based game in their new web-enabled Nokia phone? Will it create a feedback loop and make the universe explode? ... :)

  56. "delicious"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How come no one commented on the use of the word "delicious"? I think a more appropriate word would have been "rad". Come on, someone who was excited about new fabrics that cellphone cases are made of might say they were "delicious"...not someone who's happy about being able to play classic games. Maybe I'm wrong, it's delish!

  57. Last Post! by alpg · · Score: 1

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