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Prentice Hall To Publish Open Content Licensed Books

lma writes "Bruce Perens has convinced Prentice Hall to publish a series of books under an Open Source license. The 'Bruce Perens' Open Source Series' will be available first as hardcopy in bookstores, and the Open Source text will be available electronically a few months later. Prentice Hall is counting on people buying the books even though the electronic version will be freely available later. I like the model, since I prefer to read paper, but like the electronic version for reference."

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  1. My prediction... by Anand_S · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Microsoft Press will be pissed about this. "Open Source books will be the death of the industry!"

    1. Re:My prediction... by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Let's give them a run for their money :-) To do that, we need to make this a big bookshelf. Want to write something? I need authors. It won't make you rich, but it will do good for both you and the world.

      Thanks

      Bruce

    2. Re:My prediction... by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Mostly I am looking for user or developer documentation for Free Software. I would hope that I'll get some of the software authors, but I recognize that many of them would rather code. Note also that writing a book does not make you wealthy (me neither). It doesn't pay as well as consulting. On the other hand, if you aren't working anyway... The benefit of writing a book is that you are valued more as an employee, consultant, or scholar. You know the cliche: He wrote the book about it!

      Bruce

    3. Re:My prediction... by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Informative
      I did a list a while back, and it turned out that my authors are more in touch with new stuff than I am. For example, I think I might have mentioned intrusion detection, but didn't put Snort on the list. I would rather that you think about what you have invested your time in, and what special areas you can contribute to. Is there an area you currently have expertise in where the rest of the world would profit from a brain-dump?

      Thanks

      Bruce

    4. Re:My prediction... by Robotech_Master · · Score: 5, Informative
      What you need to do is put the electronic version online before or concurrently with the print version. See the Baen Free Library, Baen Webscriptions, and the Honor Harrington CD-ROM (now hosted on-line in its entirety by express permission of Jim Baen).

      And see this quote from Jim Baen, on the Baen Bar:
      Baen has experienced a mysterious 50% increase in gross dollar sales in the previous year. Also, our "sellthrough" (percentage of books placed in the market that sell to end-point customers) has improved from the rather startling 63% to the truly stunning 74%. I'm tentatively blamiing this on my wacko e-net proclivities. (Insert a Crazy Eddie ad pastiche here)
      There's every sign that having the books available for free or cheap on-line has done nothing but good for the sale of print books by Baen. It might do the same for you.
      --
      Editor Emeritus and Senior Writer, TeleRead.org
  2. Novel Concept, But Not the First by CBNobi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Bruce Eckel's been releasing his programming books electronically for the past few years. (Not sure of its licensing, however)

    This is probably one of the first cases of a publisher supporting this, however.

    1. Re:Novel Concept, But Not the First by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Informative
      I'm not claiming to be the first. Go look at Creative Commons for a list of people who got there before me. But Prentice is the world's largest technical book publisher and that's important. They have done individual titles under the OPL before, but never a series.

      Thanks

      Bruce

  3. Finally, I don't have to... by jmuzic1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    lug all my books home every day. I can see it now..."Open source may provide treatment for back pain"

  4. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 5, Funny

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  5. Re:Oreilly / MySQL Reference Manual by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I don't want to diminish O'Reilly's efforts, they did the original Open Sources book mostly in Open Source, and a number of others, and some other publishers have as well (about my favorite is the Ruby book). But Prentice Hall is the largest technical book publisher in the world.

    Thanks

    Bruce

  6. _Text Processing in Python_ almost under model by Lulu+of+the+Lotus-Ea · · Score: 5, Informative

    I have recently completed a book for Addison-Wesley. Well, almost completed--it needs to make it through copyediting and indexing still, which will probably (unfortunately) mean several more months until it is printed.

    One thing that I did--with permission of my publisher--is make the text of the book completely available during writing, and it will remain so into the future. Shameless plug, you can find it at http://gnosis.cx/TPiP/. I cannot say honestly that being allowed to provide it this way was a deciding issue in choosing a publisher; but it certainly does make me feel better about writing the book.

    Admittedly, this is not quite the same thing as an OpenContent license. You are free to read the book at the URL listed, and print yourself a personal copy. But the book is under copyright, and you cannot reproduce and sell the text yourself. Still, I believe it is a step in the right direction... maybe my next book will manage to go a step farther.

    Yours, David...

  7. Re:Nice title by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Informative
    I sincerely did not ask for it to be named after me. That's Prentice's idea, and they need my name there to differentiate them from any other Open Source line that someone else does. I find it a bit embarassing, but will live with it for the good of making books that are Open Source licensed.

    Actually, it has created tremendous difficulty for me. I have to get all of the doors widened in my home now, so that I can get my head through them :-)

    Bruce

  8. Re:Paper pricing by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Funny
    Anyone in the know about Open Source will understand that the books are free text when they see my name.

    The copyright page says it's OPL licensed, although there is a bug in the copyright page which I will fix in the electronic version, because someone didn't understand the OPL when putting together the copyright page. It goes to the trouble to say that you can use it under the OPL, and then after that says "no copying". Duh!

    Bruce

  9. A note about the license by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Informative
    The license, at present, is the Open Publication License with no options taken. If any of the options were taken, it would not be an Open Source license (the options restrict modification and commercial use). We are open to other Free Software licenses, my contract explicitly allows the GNU Free Documentation License (which I would like to see used without immutable sections, which I feel make the work not Open Source).

    Thanks

    Bruce

  10. Ripping off college students one edition at a time by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Funny

    The books will cost $50-$75 dollars while they're being sold at university bookstores, then released free as soon as the course is over so that the resale value of the book is zero.

    However, the free book will be useless for the next semester's courses, because a new edition will have been released to update the book for the changing technologies, of course.

    See, it is possible to make big money with open source... although this wasn't what we had in mind.

  11. Reference vs. Introductory by Trolling4Dollars · · Score: 5, Informative

    What I've noticed when I buy dead tree books is that I get much more value out of the books that can be used as reference tools. Typically these are books that touch on subjects that aren't quickly moving targets. For example, I recently bought an O'Reilly book on Bash at a used book store. The book isn't 100% up to date (1999 I believe), but it has helped me move a long way in my Bash scripting and is still very relevant. It's a great reference book. However, I also bought a book that explained what W.I.N.E. is and provided some usage examples at about the same time. Unfortunately, that book is incredibly out of date now and since it was also published in 1999. At this point, it's just s brick. (The W.I.N.E. project changed the way the config files work, so this book is really useless as a reference book)

    With that said, I'd like to point out that if these books are expected to sell as dead tree items, they should probably be more "reference" books than introductory books and probably deal with subject matter that changes slowly over time. The addition of the electronic version makes it relatively easy to keep THAT version up to date, but it doesn't help the owners of the dead tree version when they are not able to access the Internet.

    As an aside, I'd also like to point out the electronic books might benefit from being on CD-RW as opposed to CD-R. Considering that CD-RWs are pretty ubiquitous these days, a dead tree book could come with the book in electronic format on a CD-RW. That way, a user could keep their electronic version up to date by running an "updater" program that would check for the latest version, open the disc for writing, add changes to the disc, and then close the session to make it readable again. THAT would add enough value to the dead tree version that I think people would be kept interested in all three approaches: Paper Book, Online Version, and CD-RW distributed with book. The only reason people don't typically care about included CDs is that they become irrelevant VERY quickly. Just a thought.