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2002 MP3 Winners and Losers

An anonymous reader writes "MP3newswire.net is running their annual losers and winners list in digital media. Each has 8 finalists with the big winner KaZaa for becoming profitable and doubling Napster's peak traffic despite setbacks like getting briefly booted from Download.com. The big loser? No surprise, it's the RIAA who despite several wins in court have failed in their quest to stem file trading. Lawrence Lessig and Dmitry Skylarov also made the winners list, though as the article points out it wasn't exactly a great year for Dmitry."

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  1. Aren't they a little bit off with this one? by iapetus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I seem to remember hearing something that might reverse the positions of Kazaa and the RIAA. :)

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  2. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  3. People really hate RIAA by Jeedo · · Score: 5, Interesting
    People really seem to hate RIAA, and for obvius resons. RIAA's page gets hacked on a regular basis now and here's the most resent example: Pic_1 , Pic_2 , And finally the website as it appeared in HTML at the time.

    Offtopic: Just how bad will it look on RIAA's system administratiors resimay to have worked there?

  4. Kazaa profitable... that's not worth a celebration by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm not sure Kazaa being profitable is that good of a thing for the 'net in general.

    Remember, Kazaa is a Spyware/Adware-filled program which brings along with it a lot of annoying programs that pop-up ads while users are browsing sites other than their own, redirect click-through commissions from sites other than their own, and spy on users when using programs other than their own.

    Kazaa simply has no morals. They're not just stealing from the RIAA, but if you run a website they're stealing from you too. If you haven't noticed, they don't have much respect the laws of the U.S, Canada, Mexico, U.K... or anywhere else that says stealing is wrong.

    Kazaa should just go away... the online world would be better off without them. Them being profitable is a very scary thing...

  5. SkLYarov, not Skylarov! by infolib · · Score: 5, Informative

    Both the linked article and the /. story has it wrong.

    If you doubt me compare this with this.

    I just think the error shouldn't be allowed to propagate.
    Besides, I woke up this morning and found out I had mutated into a spelling nazi. I just hate it when that happens...

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  6. Emusic not on list? by bluegreenone · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was surprised that emusic.com didn't make their list. As one of the largest online providers of legal, non-DRM MP3s on the net they should have at least garnered an honorable mention. With practically unlimited downloads for $10 or $15 a month, I'd say consumers are the big winners here. I've been using the service for the past month and my music collection, especially jazz, has grown larger than it ever could have at $15 a CD.

  7. Re:if only the RIAA had some vision.... by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem is, they not only own the content, but they also own the "distribution channels" that control what content is pushed into the marketplace.

    The RIAA's MP3 fear is not that they won't be able to make money off of MP3s, but that people other than the existing RIAA members can as well. What's more, it'd be possible for an artist to gain popularity without needing the help of an RIAA label's publicity machine, therefore the artist could make 100% of the money off of the recording, and not have to give the RIAA members any cut of the action.

    That's why the RIAA is trying desperately to block the progress of 'net-based music distribution in any file format by anybody. The fact that some people are surcomming to illegally transfering music that the RIAA owns the copyright on just makes their illogical case easier to argue. What they want is for the music distribution system to stay as it is for as long as possible, because if we ever transition to an effective electronic system of any kind, they will be written out of the story.

  8. Edonkey by Jacek+Poplawski · · Score: 5, Informative

    I don't understand why there is no single word about Edonkey in articles. Kazaa doesn't work in Linux (at least without Wine) and AFAIK lack few features of Edonkey network.
    Why Edonkey community is ignored in such comparisions? Is it really so small?

  9. All this talk of piracy.. Its not always correct. by nurb432 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    First of all, p2p is used for more then piracy. Its not the "sole intent" as many people like to pretend.

    Yes pirating occurs.. but so does drug running on our roads.. does that make it the 'sole intent'. No of course not.

    Plus you are also not considering that waht you consider piracy only applies to YOUR country. many do not reconize copyrights, so its NOT, I repeat, NOT piracy there...

    Try to spread the truth, not biased lies desgined to skew public opinion.

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  10. iPod by sean23007 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Having recently picked up an iPod, I think it's great. However, I do have a few qualms with it. The wonderful device can only be "linked" to one computer at a time, and if you ever accidentally hit "Yes" when you've plugged it into the wrong computer you lose all your songs and have to set them all back up again on your main iPod computer. I have several computers on my home network, and they all have MP3s on them. I wanted to be able to use my iPod to transfer files between each of them, but you cannot take files off the iPod. The Firewire connection is blazingly fast, and I love that, but in my mind its inability to transfer files between computers is a crippling issue. If it had this capability, it would be number one on the RIAA's hitlist, which could become one of its biggest selling points. After all, the MP3 Winners' List said it itself: in this post-Napster world, the number one indicator of the quality of a product is the fervor with which the RIAA wants to kill it.

    And by the way, connecting the iPod to that little FM transmitter they sell at the Apple Store is incredible. You sit down in your car and all the music you want is playing on the radio, without commercials. It's like satellite radio but you choose ALL the music, not just the station. I love my iPod, and I think it should have been placed higher than Kazaa on the list. It is better for the music lover than Kazaa, because Kazaa can pretty much only be used for stealing shoddy versions of the music. The iPod can be used with MP3s ripped from CD, so you can control the quality of your music. I hate downloaded music, because so much of it sucks (qualitywise).

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  11. Prepare to be swallowed by Windcatcher · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I work in IT. Whenever I talk to other people who work in IT (and for that matter people who don't), most of the time I hear that the music distributors (e.g. RIAA) have outlived their usefulness. Once Hilary Rosen remarked that the IT industry was swallowing their industry.

    It is. We are.

    When you can electronically transfer music and burn it to recordable, red book-compatible media, when you can print cover art on an inkjet or color laser printer, there is absolutely no need for music distribution companies. No need whatsoever. And, more importantly, no need to pay US$21.99 for a music CD anymore.

    The problem that the RIAA has is that people aren't nearly as stupid as they think. Uninformed perhaps, but not stupid. When people are clued in I always see the same response: we should either be able to download music for a small fee, or call our local music store, tell them what we want burned and printed, and head over to pick up our custom CD for all of 5 bucks.

    So yes, the IT industry is going to swallow the record distribution industry, just as the automotive industry swallowed up the need for horses and buggies (and buggy whips).