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More NerdCore Science Fiction From Cory Doctorow

Andrew Leonard writes "Cory Doctorow has published a new short story in Salon. This time around, he's imagined a cyberpunk wi-fi future, with spectrum cops, a mobile multinational startup, and guerilla warfare on Indian reservations. Readers who liked his previous story, "0wnz0red" will undoubtedly savor this one." We've posted things about Cory before, but I personally enjoy his writing, so here's more!

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  1. Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom by mcgroarty · · Score: 5, Informative
    Also, it's worth mentioning that Cory's got a new book out. You can read about (or download!) Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom online, or you can make Cory a buck and pick it up in dead tree form.

    He's enjoyed a few brief jumps up the best seller lists at Amazon. He's been up to the triple digits. It'd be cool to see him pushed into the double digits.

  2. It's official by _typo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wi-Fi is the Never Ending Buzzword (tm)!

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  3. Easier to view by br0ck · · Score: 5, Informative

    This may be obvious, but try the print layout to skip paging and avoid the huge ads in the middle of the text.

  4. Average writing skill by coinreturn · · Score: 3, Interesting

    His ability to write is rather average. The underdeveloped characters are stereotypes and he uses excruciating detail to describe minutia which DOES NOT MATTER. Writing involves showing the TELLING details and having a strong sense of POV.

    Nowadays, everyone with a computer thinks hes a writer!

    1. Re:Average writing skill by stratjakt · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You're being generous.

      I couldn't even get through a few paragraphs.

      Why anyone would compare his stuff to the likes of HHGTTG or Snow Crash is beyond me.

      This guy's a hack. But he wrote a story about Wi-Fi, buzzword of the new millenium.

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    2. Re:Average writing skill by Ponty · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Excruciating detail can be helpful sometimes. I know I've read some really good writing that makes artful use of it.

      It's the semi-poser wannabe writing that gets me. The use of familiar words in vaguely correct arrangements doesn't make good writing:

      You gotta read your classics, bro. I've been catching up over the past six months or so, doing a lot of reading. Mostly free e-books from the Gutenberg Project. Descartes' "Meditations" are some heavy shiznit.
      Crap, man. That's worse than Thomas Wolfe.
    3. Re:Average writing skill by Mononoke · · Score: 5, Funny
      Why anyone would compare his stuff to the likes of HHGTTG or Snow Crash is beyond me.
      Maybe they had great difficulty getting through those books also.

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    4. Re:Average writing skill by ashultz · · Score: 2, Insightful


      He may be average, but it's always funny for someone to criticize writing in a post that gets gets plural and singular tenses messed up and uses all caps.

      Personally, I find him an above average fiction writer. Hardly my favorite, and his characters are not well developed, but head and shoulders above a lot of stuff that gets published. Perhaps head, shoulders, and bellybutton above the web average.

    5. Re:Average writing skill by baka_boy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The most interesting works of modern fiction I've read were seldom examples of the finest writing style -- that's what the "classics" are for. Their value is more in the concepts and characters they introduce than in their use of language.

      I think that Doctorow's short stories do a good job of presenting a scenario based on a popular current meme, while the idea is still fresh.

  5. A better question might be... by Ieshan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why does everyone with a computer think they're a critic? =P

  6. give salon money by tomlord · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Salon has a bunch of good content. Maybe you agree that this story is good. Subscribe!

  7. if you want GOOD scifi... by zephc · · Score: 2, Informative

    check out the Prime Intellect novella-length story

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    "I would say that 99 per cent of what my father has written about his own life is false." - L. Ron Hubbard Jr.
    1. Re:if you want GOOD scifi... by Clover_Kicker · · Score: 3, Interesting
      >if you want GOOD scifi... (Score:2)
      >by zephc (225327) Neutral on 06:55 PM January 16th, 2003 (#5098298)
      >
      >check out the Prime Intellect [kuro5hin.org] novella-length story

      Oh come now, let's do a stronger sales pitch for an excellent story.

      From the into to Prime Intellect:
      In the best possible future, there will be
      no war, no famine, no crime,
      no sickness, no oppression,
      no fear, no limits, no shame... ...and nothing to do.


      This online novel contains strong language and explicit violence.
      If you are under 21 years old, or easily offended, please leave.

      Here's a brief excerpt to give you a taste:
      Later, Raven made the traditional toast. Her strong voice boomed out through the rooms and courtyards she had envisioned. Caroline's handcuffs disappeared, and like everyone else she found herself holding a drink. "It's time for our toast," Raven declared. "Who are we going to toast?"
      "PRIME INTELLECT!" answered over four thousand enthusiastic voices.
      "To Prime Intellect, for making the world safe from people like us!"
      And four thousand people, instead of tossing back those drinks, inverted their glasses, baptising the floor in alcohol.
      "My heart just isn't in that toast any more," a balding older man told Caroline. She wondered briefly if he had chosen to be old for some reason, or if it was his way of letting nature take its course. "I mean, we're amateurs against Prime Intellect. I killed six college students. It killed the whole universe. Not even in the same league."
  8. 0wnz0red by LesPaul75 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I read 0wnz0red last week -- someone here on /. had a link to it in their sig. One of the great things about Doctorow's sci-fi is the "feasibility" of it. In particular, I wonder how close we really are to the microcontroller that interfaces directly to the human nervous system. Ten years? Twenty? Surely it will happen within our lifetimes (?). When it does, let's just hope that the API is open-source. :)

  9. Matrix + Anarchy only + half-life = coreys story by t0qer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Plug in the back of your neck = matrix
    Programming yourself = Nano's from AO
    MIB's and Gmen in the black mesa desert = half life.

    I found the story interesting mainly because of the locations. Small details like eating el torito burrito's along the 101, living here in the bay area I know all these spots, it almost makes the story more realistic to me in that sense.

    The really interesting thing is seeing how modern writers take what they see now, and apply that to their story.

    The whole, healing aids virus thing was a trip, probably the most original thing in the story. Other than that though, the story is just silicon valley facts mixed in with hollywood/gaming fiction.

    I liked it though.

  10. Jan. 11 story in Wired online by EnlightenmentFan · · Score: 2, Informative

    Paul Boutin just wrote up Doctorow's novel in this story.

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  11. Not the best writer by HisMother · · Score: 3, Informative


    As other folks have pointed out, this guy's writing is heavy on irrelevant details, and weak on character development (i.e., salient details.) One thing I never figured out on reading 0wnz0r3d (sp?) was which of the two main characters were gay, if either was. It's not the most important detail, but it seems relevant to character development - yet I don't think it's answerable based on the text.

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  12. Nerdcore? by Tuxinatorium · · Score: 3, Funny

    By that do you mean nerds' porn or nerd porn? Like goatse?

  13. Doctorow on the Screensavers Tonight by tbmaddux · · Score: 2, Informative
    Just finished the story and flipped on TechTV to hear Leo say that Cory Doctorow is on the show tonight, wearing his "cyberactivist" hat.

    Well, they just showed a shot of him. Thick black glasses, flat top, blue Star Trek : TOS shirt, no hat.

    And oh, the story? I liked it... inconsequential stuff that reminded me a bit of Sterling and his Leggy Starlitz character ("Zeitgeist," anyone?).

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    1. Re:Doctorow on the Screensavers Tonight by CleverNickName · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, they just showed a shot of him. Thick black glasses, flat top, blue Star Trek : TOS shirt, no hat.

      TOS shirt?!

      TOS shirt?!

      TEE OH ESS SHIRT?!

      Oh Cory, why hast thou forsaken me?

  14. Sub-average posting skill by mjang · · Score: 4, Funny

    Your ability to post a negative comment about someone who has spent a lot of time on something they care about (and giving it away for free) is rather average. It's hardly worth the score 5 you currently have. The over-capitalization of words and excruciatingly uninspired or thought-provoking critique really does not matter.

    Nowadays, everyone with a slashdot account thinks they're a critic!

  15. Re:Download the book and send him money by mcgroarty · · Score: 4, Informative
    If you want immediate gratification, download the book and send him some money.

    He explicitly asks people not to do this, though I do understand the appeal; that was my first thought too. But his thinking seems to be that if it looks like he's making a profit away from the publisher, the publisher may not agree to letting him publish a free version next time.

    He suggests buying a book and donating it to a library. I'd also suggest buying a copy or two as gifts... it's good reading!

  16. Re:Average writing skill maybe, but... by alakazam · · Score: 2, Insightful
    ...above-average skill at finishing a story that he's started.

    Everybody who has more than a couple (dozen?) stories started who are going to finish them "one of these days" please raise your hand. (Ouch, I can't count that high.)

  17. Devils in the Details (or lack thereof) by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 2, Insightful


    The underdeveloped characters are stereotypes and he uses excruciating detail to describe minutia which DOES NOT MATTER. Writing involves showing the TELLING details and having a strong sense of POV.


    I would argue that the details DO matter. What makes these stories interesting are the technical / political / social concepts each story explores. To better express these concepts, a certain degree of detail is needed.

    The trouble is, this detail ends up highlighting a lack of detail elsewhere. There are attempts at fleshing out the world in which these concepts are playing out. But these attempts ultimately fall flat. One example, as has been pointed out, is the commonly underdeveloped character.

    Doctorow has a good start. Enough to be kind of interesting now. I hope he improves with time. Then he may be worthy of the breathless praise his critics currently scoff at.
  18. I KNOW by autopr0n · · Score: 2, Funny

    Subversion is so much more cyberpunk, man.

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    autopr0n is like, down and stuff.