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Multimedia Windowpanes

prostoalex writes "Washington Post talks about recent innovations in the world of windows (yes, lowercase). A Minnesota company is offering windows that double as entertainment centers, being used as projection screens for home entertainment systems and DVD players. A Yale professor is quoted to be excited about new product: 'One minute you're looking out your bay window at your neighbor's back yard, and the next you're watching Tom Cruise and 'Top Gun''."

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  1. Great Idea... by scot4875 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Great idea, until someone puts a baseball through your living room Window.

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    1. Re:Great Idea... by spike+hay · · Score: 4, Funny

      I've been hearing lately that this version of windows has a exploit in which a hacker can use a tool called "crowbar" to compromise security. This may be fixed in upcoming patches.

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    2. Re:Great Idea... by Afrosheen · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Er, they never said the window goes black, they just said it goes 'opaque'. Most likely it goes white.

      This tech is nothing new. An art house exists in Europe that uses solar power and is full of windows like this. It's lcd-embedded glass. The house itself is on rails and rotates to face the sun (it's a circular house on tracks).

      One cool feature the house has is everchanging antique mirrors. You know those old mirrors with random black patterns in them? These actually MOVE and change over time. There's a thin layer of bacteria that eat the substrate and move from place to place. Crazy, but interesting.

  2. hmm. by garcia · · Score: 4, Funny

    now I can pretend those videos of my naked nextdoor neighbor are live...

    1. Re:hmm. by goatasaur · · Score: 5, Funny

      BILL?!!

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  3. They used to have to look in the windows by ShawnDoc · · Score: 4, Funny
    Great, now my who neighborhood will know the type of porn I like to watch.

    At least before they had to sneak over to look in the windows, now they just have to look at the windows.

    1. Re:They used to have to look in the windows by Forgotten · · Score: 2, Funny

      Of course, they'll see a horizontally flipped representation. That could colour their impression of you too, especially if you prefer that sort of porn where it's already difficult to tell who's doing what to whom.

  4. How long till? by YellowSnow · · Score: 2, Funny

    Microsoft lawyers hit them with a cease and desist, it definately dilutes the trademark if people use windows as an entertainment device.

  5. How long until... by delphin42 · · Score: 4, Funny

    This technology makes it into eyeglasses or contact lenses ?!?

    I'd love to be sitting in my cube at work watching Office Space on my contact lenses!

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    1. Re:How long until... by groman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      In all seriousness, human eyes can't focus that close. Does anybody know of a technology that would allow to display images on a contact lens with a focal point a few feet into the air in front of said contact lens? Something like an LCD hologram or something? I'd be curious to know if that is possible at all.

  6. Back to the 80's by MongooseCN · · Score: 4, Funny

    'One minute you're looking out your bay window at your neighbor's back yard, and the next you're watching Tom Cruise and 'Top Gun'

    Wow, so they invented a back to the 80's time machine!

  7. Top Gun? by Skyshadow · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Tom Cruise in Top Gun? Where did they did up this professor? 1986?

    Anyhow, I have a really hard time seeing this going anywhere. The problem with any sort of serious home automation or nifty built-in gadgets is that ten years down the line they're either a tangle of useless, unsupported wires and circuit boards from extint companies or laughably outdated (or both). I remember seeing a new item about a guy who sued Bob Vila and "This Old House" for pushing him to install a computer-heavy home control system for everything from the heat to the garage door a few years back -- the company tanked and now he has to rip the malfunctioning POS out and put in new stuff (which is obviously expensive).

    So, I'll pass. Besides, the last thing I need is an incentive to get even less daylight.

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    1. Re:Top Gun? by GOD_ALMIGHTY · · Score: 5, Funny

      Actually it really just tells us about our Yale Professor here, as Quentin Tarantino pointed out in the movie 'Sleep With Me':

      <snip>
      No, I don't, fucking boy meets girl, I don't give a shit about that. Fuck boy meets girl, fuck motorcycle movie. No, what is really being said? What's really being said, that's what you're talking about. 'Cause the whole idea, man, is subversion. You want subversion on a massive level. You know what one of the greatest fucking scripts ever written in the history of Hollywood is? Top Gun.

      [Duane: Oh, come on.]

      Top Gun is fucking great. What is Top Gun? You think it's a story about a bunch of fighter pilots.

      [Duane: It's about a bunch of guys waving their dicks around.]

      It is a story about a man's struggle with his own homosexuality. It is! That is what Top Gun is about, man.

      You've got Maverick, all right? He's on the edge, man. He's right on the fucking line, all right? And you've got Iceman, and all his crew. They're gay, they represent the gay man, all right? And they're saying, go, go the gay way, go the gay way. He could go both ways.

      [Duane: What about Kelly McGillis?]

      Kelly McGillis, she's heterosexuality. She's saying: no, no, no, no, no, no, go the normal way, play by the rules, go the normal way. They're saying no, go the gay way, be the gay way, go for the gay way, all right? That is what's going on throughout that whole movie...

      He goes to her house, all right? It looks like they're going to have sex, you know, they're just kind of sitting back, he's takin' a shower and everything. They don't have sex. He gets on the motorcycle, drives away. She's like, "What the fuck, what the fuck is going on here?" Next scene, next scene you see her, she's in the elevator, she is dressed like a guy. She's got the cap on, she's got the aviator glasses, she's wearing the same jacket that the Iceman wears. She is, okay, this is how I gotta get this guy, this guy's going towards the gay way, I gotta bring him back, I gotta bring him back from the gay way, so I'm do that through subterfuge, I'm gonna dress like a man. All right? That is how she approaches it.

      Okay, now let me just ask you--I'm gonna digress for two seconds here. I met this girl Amy here, she's like floating around here and everything. Now, she just got divorced, right?...

      All right, but the REAL ending of the movie is when they fight the MIGs at the end, all right? Because he has passed over into the gay way. They are this gay fighting fucking force, all right? And they're beating the Russians, the gays are beating the Russians. And it's over, and they fucking land, and Iceman's been trying to get Maverick the entire time, and finally, he's got him, all right? And what is the last fucking line that they have together? They're all hugging and kissing and happy with each other, and Ice comes up to Maverick, and he says, "Man, you can ride my tail, anytime!" And what does Maverick say? "You can ride mine!" Swordfight! Swordfight! Fuckin' A, man!
      </snip>

      IMNSHO, this is Quentin's finest performance ever, better than his role in Pulp Fiction

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  8. So what.... by Fazlazen · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...does this look like from the outside? Can anyone who's outside your house see what you're watching? I don't see what the real benefit of this is, other than the "gee whiz!" factor. Not to mention what happens when your kids playing catch in the house break your window *and* TV at the same time!

    - Faz

    1. Re:So what.... by orthogonal · · Score: 4, Funny

      So what.... ...does this look like from the outside?

      That's the thing. Most slashdotters will never know.

      Hell, they'll never even know what "outside" looks like.

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    2. Re:So what.... by angst_ridden_hipster · · Score: 4, Funny

      Outside?

      You mean the big blue room?

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  9. Optimal Performance by reddfoxx · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm just kinda wondering what the optimal performance conditions are for this product?

    My guess is that the light has to be greater on the inside than on the outside, much like seeing a reflection using a mirror. Also there is the problem of temperature. Most electronics don't particularly enjoy being used at extreme temps. I'm also guessing that this thing has some type of current running through it causing an extreme temp change in the glass.

    So how long until the first "projection window" explodes during the winter?

    1. Re:Optimal Performance by orthogonal · · Score: 2, Informative
      Here's some info on Electrochromic Windows in general (the projection window seems to be a particular application of this).

      However, according to the site cited above,
      Electrochromic technologies are available for license to manufacturers. There are currently no U.S. manufacturers that are producing a true electrochromic window. Liquid crystal "privacy" glazing is available in the United States, for residential use.


      I wants me a window with an opaque switch, I wants it, my precious! Not only is this so much more conveneent that blinds, I imagine it would be easily controlled by the PC.
  10. And when you lose power... by Rorschach1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You don't even have sunlight. That's right, the windows are opaque when there ISN'T a current flowing through them! Better have an UPS on your window or it's going to get really dark when the power goes out.

    1. Re:And when you lose power... by Forgotten · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Half-right. From the FA:

      A low-voltage electric current runs through the window. When the current is on, the window is clear. But flip a switch to turn the current off and the glass goes opaque, allowing it to be used as a projection screen for watching television or DVDs.

      The article doesn't mention the underlying technology by name, but it's probably simply an LCD panel similar to that in a notebook display. Whether the relaxed liquid crystal strands uncurl with (white, transparent) or against (black, opaque) the plane of the polarisation filter is always just a manufacturing choice. In notebooks it can be a matter of saving power by minimising the amount of screen you need to change from the default, on average. A white-on-black character display should probably relax to black, while a black-on-white Mac-style windowed display might better relax to white. Of course I'm not claiming they always use that much logic in the decision (Apple maybe since they seem to put a lot of thought into powersaving, but more likely they just buy what's cheapest like everyone else).

      The tendency of the windows in the article to relax to opacity could be thought of as a privacy feature, I suppose. It does seem odd when the device is being sold as a window that can be used as a screen, though (as opposed to the converse).

  11. It works both ways by Jason1729 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One minute you're looking out your bay window at your neighbor's back yard, and the next you're watching Tom Cruise and 'Top Gun'

    This is a projection screen between the panes of glass, so one minute you neighbor's watching you sitting in your living room, and the next minute he's watching a mirror image of Top Gun

    Won't the glass of the window create a glare problem? The wall beside the window probably makes a much better projection screen.

    Jason
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    1. Re:It works both ways by Acidic_Diarrhea · · Score: 5, Informative

      To answer quite simply, no. I've actually seen this demonstrated in use and the other side of the window does not show the mirror image of what is playing. I'm not exactly sure how they are doing it but before the movie started, it was a clear window. Then after it started, they spun it around so you could see the back and it was a black pane. The movie doesn't show on the outside. Again, I'd love to know how they do it but I know that it does it.

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  12. Window as a projection screen? by will592 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Why not just have a projection screen lower itself in front of the window? Is there really a problem this technology is trying to solve? If you have to have a video projection system anyways, why wouldn't you want a high quality projection screen who watch the video on? And build in the wall gimmicky speakers? I would think that people willing to spend this kind of money would rather have high end speakers.

    Chris

  13. Cool... just like in anime! by sm.arson · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The whole window / tv screen thing has been a staple of futuristic anime for a while now, as well as a lot of standard sci-fi, if I'm not mistaken.

    It is definitely more of a "Japanese" techology in the sense that it combines the functions of two things, saving both space and money. A boon for all of us who are cramped into tiny one-bedroom apartments.

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  14. Great way to generate a heart attack by Black+Copter+Control · · Score: 4, Funny
    Get a nice, hi-res picture out the window, then add in a video of a big truck driving off the road and straight for the camera.

    Put up the static image, call your victim into the room for some unrelated reason and then watch the look on their face.

    You would, of course, also need appropriate sound effects -- and a well planned escape route.

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  15. Is it efficient? by Mike+McTernan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When the current is on, the window is clear. But flip a switch to turn the current off and the glass goes opaque

    Hmmm, shame it isn't the otherway around - sounds like it's going to waste lots of juice given that the window is probably going to be in 'clear' mode 99% of the time.

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  16. Total Recall by Vandil+X · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Remember Arnold's house at the start of Total Recall? They lived in what was essentially a window-less house. Yet the house had many window-like projection panes that displayed realistic outdoor scenery with picture-in-picture tv news, etc.

    That's probably what these people are aiming for.

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  17. Old Tech, new (but in hindsight, obvious) use. by spun · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The technology is similar to LCD displays, and has been around for years. I could have bought windows like this ten years ago and put a projection TV in front of them. The side windows as speakers, that's new. I mean, electrostatic speakers are old, but I'm pretty sure using glass in them is new.

    For those that haven't read the article, the windows turn opaque white when no current is running throught them. They make a perfect big white screen to shine a projector on. They aren't making a huge LCD monitor into a window and displaying a picture by shining light through it, they are projecting a picture onto it.

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  18. Inside windows, too. by kbeer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This technology has been around for a while now, but it's very expensive. The use is not for windows that face outside, but for inner windows.

    I've heard of corporate conference rooms that use windows like this. When the meeting becomes "closed door" all of the windows can be frosted.

    I live in a small apartment, but it seems bigger than it is because of many internal windows between rooms. The problem is privacy. Shades and blinds are ugly. Instant frosting is what I've been looking for. If the prices come down, I'll buy.

  19. Glass is fiarly strong by bluGill · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That comment isn't as intelligent as it sounds. Modern tempered glass doesn't breaky very easially, and can stand up to baseballs. And that is assuming it is even glass, some windows are actually plastic, which can be bullet proof! Patio doors wouldn't be possible without that. (Or at least not as most houses have them with a patio door installed, but no deck outside since a kid could break through regular glass and fall several floors) Modern windows are a lot more complex than glass in a frame. Fortunatly they work just like the old type, just better.

    I'm not trying to imply that you can't break this glass, because you can. However you can beat a patio door with a sledge hammer and not be sure of it breaking.

  20. Self Cleaning Windows are already here... by cmeans · · Score: 2, Informative
    Despite the comments made at the end of the referenced article. Self Cleaning Windows are already available.