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Ants... In... Space

Ant writes "The Fowler students picked an experiment with ants, rather than plants, because they wanted to see some activity in space. They have been following the ants' progress on the web. The students and their teachers also have learned that sometimes the best thought-out hypothesis does not pan out in reality. 'We predicted that the ants would tunnel a lot slower in microgravity, but we're finding out they're moving a lot faster,' said Golash. The students have a control group of ants at their school, living in a similar environment except with gravity. After the shuttle returns from its scheduled 16-day flight in early February, the young scientists will have 30 days to put together a preliminary report. Their "Ants in Space" experiment was sponsored by SPACEHAB, an aerospace company that has worked with NASA for many years to design and build hardware for space experiments."

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  1. So if ants can lift ten times their body weight... by n.wegner · · Score: 5, Funny

    How can they lift anything in microgravity?

  2. The question is by Kohath · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can they sort tiny screws?

    1. Re:The question is by nakedjames · · Score: 5, Funny

      dammit, that was my question. :(

      -Quick, save the queen!
      -Which one of us is the queen?
      -I'm the queen!
      -No you're not!


      -Freedom! Horrible horrible freedom!

      You fool! Now we'll never know if ants can be taught to sort tiny screws in space!

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  3. So... by antaeogo · · Score: 5, Funny

    If the shuttle crashes during re-entry, they can blame it on a bug in the system?

  4. Questions about ants by Entropy248 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I wonder if it would even be possible for an ant to build a hive in low or no gravity situations. Maybe someone who passed physics can tell me if I'm wrong. I thought that if an ant pushed a stone up, it would keep going until it hit another stone, which would receive the first's momentum, absorb a little bit and pass it on, making all of the tunnels above what you just dug collapse upward.

    It would really suck if those ants got loose into the shuttle! Though they might find it to be a shocking experience to meet the electrical system (*cheap rim shot*)

    I bet that guy from *NSync is really pissed now that even the lowly ant has beaten him out.

    Uhhh... It's really late & I'm drunk.
    In Soviet Russia, ants launch you into space.
    Profit.
    ==
    And for my next trick, I will disappear.

  5. Simpson's Jokes Aside by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Space Shuttle Orbiter: $4 billion
    Launch Preparations: $130 million
    Anti-Grav Ant Colony: $2000

    The fact that 30 years after we put man on the moon, this is the best NASA can come up with: Unfathomible.

    You know, how about we try seeing how ants tunnel in Lunar Regolith, or Martian soil. That would be intersting.

    This is great for the kids, but I think it just shows how far NASA has NOT come.

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  6. Newts in space! (space space space) by t0qer · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think slash needs a new mod point (weird) anyways..

    When I was 12-14 I was really into model rockets. I lived with my grandmother at the time and her yard had all kinds of newts and salamanders in it.

    "OOH ASTRONEWTS!" Was the first thing that popped into my head.

    I forget the model number, but it was an estes rocket with a clear payload chamber on it. I placed my "ASTRONEWT!" into the payload chamber, taped the fuse on the bottom of my C6-7 engine and then backed up for safety.

    "HOUSTON THIS IS MISSION CONTROL, BEGINNING FINAL COUNTDOWN FOR LAUNCH!" I could see the little critter had no idea he was about to be launched into the stratosphere as he wiggled and squirmed inside of his cramped quarters.

    "5-4-3-2-1 MAIN ENGINES ARE GO YOU HAVE CLEARED THE TOWER" This was about the 10th rocket I had built that year, everything on it was perfect, the wings had been sanded down and painted in 2 coats, same went for the body. This thing had to be the most arodynamically sound rocket I had ever built in my life because it just kept climbing and climbing.

    "HOUSTON THIS IS MISSION CONTROL, WE ARE SHOWING YOU HAVE DEPLOYED YOUR RE-ENTRY PARACHUTES"

    The rocket had flown so high I had to hop on my bike and chase it down. It ended up about 1/2 mile from where it had launched.

    "HOUSTON WE HAVE A PROBLEM"

    I looked at the rocket, and inside the poor newt wasn't squirming anymore. I don't know if he had died from shock, g forces, or what, but he was dead. I would have guess G forces from the condition of the corpse.

    Well, after that I ended the astronewt program. Yeah it was a fucked up thing to do, and I regret it as an adult, but we were talking about animal experiments in space right?

  7. Why Humans Move Slow in Space by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Human are trained to move artificially in space. The first few times astronauts tried to work in space, they kept losing control. (Hell Cernin had to abort the second gemini EVA because he became so overheated that his helmet fogged up.)

    It wasn't until Buzz Aldrin's EVA during the last Gemini mission that they had worked out a set of maneuvers and restraints to make sure that when an astronaut turned a knob, he didn't turn instead.

    Now, an ant is never free floating. She always has something to hold onto, the tunnel. But if we have learned anything in space, you really can't assume anything. You have to observe it and see how it actually behaves.

    Take fire for instance. You take it for granted here on earth that you can see the flames. Well, flames are caused by convection, which does't happen in micro-gravity. Hot air has the same "weight" as cold air. Instead the plasma forms a sphere that is tricky to see. Smoke does not rise from the fire for the very same reason.

    With that sort of information, NASA found they had to design completely new fire detection systems for the ISS.

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    "Learning is not compulsory... neither is survival."
    --Dr.W.Edwards Deming
  8. In other news..... by Nemus · · Score: 5, Funny
    In other news, it was discovered that when placed in a 0g environment, dung beetles still played with shit.

    "Eh, its a job." one beetle was reported as saying, before munching on a space turd.

    Seriously, I'm all for getting kids involved in science and mathematics, but this is probably one of the dumbest experiments I've ever heard of. Unless the ants evolve into giant mutant space ants before the shuttle returns, I don't see how this can be of any practical value.

    I'm trying and I really can't think of any solid benefits from trying this. Couldn't they have tried to design something a little more practical, or was this just dumbing down the project for lower-level students, like all schools do?

    I imagine some of the smarter students had some more interesting ideas, but they weren't accepted, cause lil john and jane wouldn't have a clue what was going on. God forbid we actually challenge kids to learn something advanced.

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