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Hardcore Waste Recycling

erf writes "Ok, recently we've had a story posted on composting, followed by one on recycling wastewater into snow. Enough with the amateur hour stuff, how about the real thing? Joseph Jenkins has been thermophilically composting all of his family's food waste and sewage into compost for his garden for 24 years. Yes, he eats the food out of that garden too. All you need is a bucket, some sawdust, and a compost bin. You can read all about it in the Humanure Handbook. The squeamish might want to begin with the section on fecophobia."

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  1. spaceship earth by loveandpeace · · Score: 5, Interesting

    this goes a long way beyond taking aluminum cans to the recycling center. i noticed he didn't mention much about biogas, a method of turning compost (usually from horses or sheep or cows) into methane and fertilizer. so far, that's my favorite waste-to-energy method, though i can't seem to get the city to let me put a biodigester in the back yard: they seem to be reluctant to have a methane tank hanging out in the middle of the block.

  2. I do something like this by jstroebele · · Score: 5, Funny

    Only my way involes throwing my dogs poop in the neghibors garden vs. my poop in my garden

  3. why stop at human waste? by urbazewski · · Score: 5, Funny
    a little ditty that pete seeger (I think) used to sing:

    if I should die before I wake
    all my bones and sinew take
    put them in the compost pile
    to decompose there for a while
    when corn or radishes you munch
    you may be having me for lunch
    then excrete me with a grin
    chortling 'there goes pete again!'

    blog-O-rama

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  4. Maybe it's just me, but... by FunWithHeadlines · · Score: 5, Funny
    "If one is composting the humanure from orphanages in Haiti where intestinal parasites are endemic, then extra precautions must be taken to ensure maximum pathogen death."

    If you're grabbing human manure from Haitian orphans, you've got bigger issues than some possible pathogens...

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  5. Re:still... by Master+Bait · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I think if I was going to re-use my poopoo, I'd get one of those SunMar composting toilets. They're quite sanitary. You shovel your shit out after it stews for 5 years or so.

    Maybe Joseph Jenkins hasn't had any disintery outbreaks in his home, but what if everybody in the neighborhood did the night soil thing? Liver flukes from the cukes, drops from the crops!

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  6. level 5 vegan? obligatory Simpsons reference by Pyrosophy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Lisa: You do Yoga?
    Jesse: Yeah, but I started *before* it was cool.
    Lisa: My name's Lisa Simpson. I think your protest was incredibly brave.
    Jesse: Thank you. This planet needs every friend it can get.
    Lisa: Oh, the earth is the best! That's why I'm a vegetarian.
    Jesse: Heh. Well, that's a start.
    Lisa: Uh, well, I was thinking of going vegan.
    Jesse: [chuckles] I'm a level 5 vegan -- I won't eat anything that casts a shadow.
    Lisa: Wow. Um ... I started an organic compost pile at home.
    Jesse: Only at home? You mean you don't pocket-mulch? [takes out pocket stuff for Lisa to feel]
    Lisa: Oh, it's so decomposed! Do you think I could join Dirt First?
    Jesse: Well ... we *might* have an opening at the poser level.
    Lisa: Oh, thank you, thank you!

  7. My mother and brother nearly died from... by RhettLivingston · · Score: 5, Interesting

    eating mushrooms that had been grown in night soil in China and then illegally imported. Over 200 faculty and students at Mississippi State University were hospitalized with severe food poisoning after consuming mushrooms at a salad bar. The government covered it up as less than 50 to try to minimize it, but the hospital records in the area tell a different story.

    Night soil isn't used in this country because it isn't safe to use it. Any process that could cleanse human waste of all viral DNA would also cleanse it of all but the simplest nutrients and make it less valuable as night soil. Its not that it hasn't been tried. The problem has been and is still being extensively researched in this country.

    The basic problem is that far, far more diseases can be passed from human to human than from any other animal to human. It is interesting that many of the societies with practices like these are also the breeding grounds for most of the new disease strains we are attacked by. Perhaps its not all because their citizens are treated like dispensable cattle. Or perhaps it is and like cattle, they're fed the products of their own waste.

  8. Prions by stendec · · Score: 5, Informative
    pathogens only have a limited viability outside the human body, and given enough time, will die even in low-temperature compost.

    What about prions? They're well known for their relatively high resistance to normal inactivation methods used to sterilize against typical microbial pathogens (e.g. irradiation, boiling, dry heat, treatment with acids or proteases). It's been shown that an infected rat brain needs to be autoclaved at 132 degrees C for 4.5 hours to be sterlized. I don't think your typical composter will do that. Neither will these things 'die' if you leave them out there long enough - for the simple fact that they're not living organisms - they're just sterically modified isoforms of regularly expressed human proteins. Of course, transmissible spongiform encephalopathies are pretty rare - and indeed, it isn't even certain how much risk humans are at from mad cow disease. But if your composting material is infected with scrapie-form prions, then, well, I'd be a bit concerned. Particularly in light of BSE: what if it's passed on from the cow to its feces, which is then used as composting manure?

  9. Re:Not bad at all, very good in fact! by QAChris · · Score: 5, Informative
    DIRT may or may not contain organic matter, but dirt is not organic, it is mineral.

    Human shit as well as cat shit and dog shit contain numerous microorganisms which are potentially dangerous to humans. E. Coli is only one of many. To kill these microorganisms, the compost must reach temperatures over 160 Deg F and stay there for an extended period of time.

    Sewage is not generally dumped directly in large bodies of water, it first passes through SEWAGE TREATMENT PLANTS (AKA Wastewater Treatment Facilities) where much of the nastiness is removed. The problem is disposing of the Stuff that was removed. The options being incineration, landfill, and composting. Just don't put that compost on veggies!