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DALnet For Chatting, Not File Sharing

PFAK writes "DALnet IRC Network, formerly the world's largest IRC Network has announced that the IRC network has implemented a new "policy" that will phrohibit "Using a channel for the primary purpose of facilitating the transfer of files", as of March 1st, 2003. This will be another staggering blow for the formerly largest IRC network in the world, this comes after one of the many suprises on DALnet, such as the recent DDoS attacks against the network."

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  1. No File Sharing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Then what's the point?

    1. Re:No File Sharing? by LX.onesizebigger · · Score: 5, Funny
      If I do a channel list to find interesting channels, I really don't want to have my list filled up with warez crap channels.

      Exactly. I hate it when I can't find a good cybersex channel.

      --
      I for one welcome our new SCOviet Russian overlords to whom all our base are belong.
    2. Re:No File Sharing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      What is the point of IRC without the "l337" file sharing?

      Lets see.

      Real time group collaboration - As often seen there are millions of channels out there which are specialized around some subject. From Web Design to Hardware, Music production to graphics, Linux, General Help, BSD, Magic The Gathering, FPS gaming, Every other kind of gaming.. I can list channel designations all morning here. File sharing is not the final frontier in IRC.

      It's a great place to kill time, learn, troubleshoot stuff, get relevant help, etc. IRC is essentially free tech support.

      For example, couple of years ago I was vacationing in Palm Springs, in the middle of nowhere. I was in the Hotel Room surfing the web at 4am in the morning with my laptop and didn't want to drive all the way to the closest supermarket to buy cigarettes. All I had was a small package of really expensive british tobacco and no rolling paper. I got on IRC, and joined #help on Efnet. Asked them how to deal with the situation. Some guy suggested to tear out the last remaing pages from the Bible (found in every hotel room), because the pages are really thin and burn like zig-zags. Well, that night I smoked half of that tobacco, and at the same time felt closer to God.

      Thank you IRC!
    3. Re:No File Sharing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Next time, use up all the pages, then call the front desk and see if they'll send up a new one.

      Then maybe you can capture a Gideon!

      Be careful, for they may be ninjas.

      As for the topic at hand - I suspect that if they start trying to run off channels with warez kiddies, they will just recieve more attacks. Just give them an excuse to be pissed at you, and you will receive all kinds of flooding.

      I speak from experience. I did the oper thing on EFNet about 6 years ago and had my entire organization's pipe shut down by kiddies on the other side of my K: lines several times. It sucked mightily.

  2. IRC is for chatting?!!? by EvilJello · · Score: 5, Funny

    I thought it was for idling and sitting in DCC queues? What are these "chat" channels you speak of?

    1. Re:IRC is for chatting?!!? by EvilJello · · Score: 1, Funny

      Really? Where? Erm.. for research purposes of course... -P. Townshend

    2. Re:IRC is for chatting?!!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Its also a place for FBI agents to meet new people.

    3. Re:IRC is for chatting?!!? by jesser · · Score: 5, Funny

      IRC: where men are men, women are men, and children are FBI agents.

      --
      The shareholder is always right.
  3. phrohibit?? by CommanderTaco · · Score: 5, Funny

    someone's too used to typing "ph33r" on DALnet...

  4. Whew! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    As long as they leave #xxxpassworld up thats fine with me!

    1. Re:Whew! by Leoric · · Score: 5, Funny

      Is this the first time a #channel is slashdotted?

  5. Re:Staggering blow? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    What makes you say that? I agree with the new policy. It doesn't say you can't share a file, but it says channels where the primary purpose is to share/exchange files are not prohibited. If we are in a channel and I need to DCC you a file, I still can. When is that last time you saw a channel with a title "Free and Open Source Software trading channel". That's right, you haven't. The usage of DALnet isn't reduced to ordinary users, but if you want to get on and open an MP3 channel, then you are in trouble. It's not like people in the file sharing channels chat anyway. Nothing goes on but queue updates/ads.

  6. I envision.... by gladbach · · Score: 5, Funny

    These *illegal file sharing* channels to suddenly start saying they are Trivia channels, that just happen to share files secondary....

    Because god knows every channel on Dalnet seems to have some lamo trivia bot or three....

    --
    "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms,
  7. Re:What's the point? by Munra · · Score: 3, Funny

    I disagree.

    There are a lot of non-specific clan channels that have friendly banter. Banter, anyway :) Also, a lot of clan channels very rarely talk about clan stuff, or even gaming stuff. In fact, we talk about clan specific so rarely in #tjd, we often stray into geeky/technical discussions. My most recent favourite culminated in deciding that Ian Flemming was secretly a coder:

    #tjd sad topic for the day. =/ Today we have been proving that Ian Fleming was a geek:

    Daemons are Forever

    The World is Not Enum

    function Tomorrow()
    {
    return 1;
    die("I'm dead");
    }

    while (!true) say("never again");

    07016534671571

    die("another day");

    $ ps aux | grep daylights
    jil01 5980 0.0 0.4 1544 580 pts/2 S 13:40 0:00 daylights

    (!enough)?The World:;

    for (i=1;i=2; i++) YouOnlyLive();

    Select * FROM Russia WITH love;

    You get the idea! :)

  8. EFNet's New Slogan by miketang16 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Give me your lagged, your bored, Your huddled masses yearning to leech free, The wretched refuse of your teeming network.
    BTW: Not a troll, I enjoy DALnet too...

    --
    -------
    "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."
    -- George Orwell
  9. Oh, great . . . by bedouin · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now even more DALNet refugees will be joining my favorite EFNet and Undernet channels. As if it wasn't bad enough before with the once every five minutes (and usually repeating over and over in bold or colored text until answered) "What happened to DALNEt???" questions.

    DALNet has always been the lowest on the IRC evolutionary totem pole, with all kinds of goofy restrictions on people, that's of course "for their own protection." Even before this you couldn't actually receive a file by DCC without first registering your nick, a process that was too long for me to bother with in the first place. Oh, and don't let me forget the asinine regulation added recently where only clients using identd may connect. Come on, please, what purpose does identd actually serve in 2003?

    And if nickserv doesn't annoy you to all hell, the five hundred msgs from users of Turkish IRC scripts probably will. Literally, I've left my IRC client on DALNet idling for a little while and have come back with about 20 spam messages. And if you can somehow manage to bear the spam, you'll probably end up being annoyed by the other 50 morons trying to DCC you viruses, that, of course only affect Windows users.

    Can someone explain to me what banning file-sharing channels over IRC actually does to make its quality any better? I seriously don't see the warez kiddies being the perpetrators of DOS attacks, that is until now. Warez on IRC isn't going to go away because of this regulation, it's only going to change form. Instead of offer bots you'll have individuals advertising their Hotline or Directconnect servers; I've already seen this on a certain unnamed Undernet warez channel.

    People are talking about DALNet sucking now? It's sucked as long as I can remember. It's almost a perfect example of what happens when a government thinks improving life and security only occurs by creating more and more regulations (instead of changing the people themselves). What you end up having is a huge group of disenfranchised people who end up attacking you.

    DALNet admins: can you make a splinter network especially for those people kicked off of DALNet, just so they don't fill up my queues on EFNet. Also, when I'm looking for movies to download I'd prefer to be able to actually read the offer bots, so can you inform your users that not everyone on IRC can view mIRC colors? Thanks, love you baby.

    Oh, and if I offended any DALNet users out there, please try to resist the urge to begin your reply with "m/Turkish/25 ASL!!?!!???"

  10. Re:Finally. by piser · · Score: 5, Funny

    Damn, everything you touch seems to die.

    spent 6 years as an administrator on Dalnet

    Those that used BBS's in the day

    Avid BeOS User.