Well, 0.5 is full implementation of the Reality Distortion Field, while 0.7 is implementation of OpenGL 2.0 acceleration. (0.6 is where they fix the RDF before Steve throws a camera and/or 12" PowerBook at somebody.)
0.8 is scheduled to include complete integration of X11 applications with OS X, moving the X11 server running alongside Quartz, while 0.9 is more bug fixes.
Around 1.0, X11 gets merged into Emacs, which then becomes the premiere operating system in 2004, slowly phasing out OS X as we know it today. In other words, they will have reinvented Windows.
How do I get KDE to work with this?
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Green+Light
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· Score: 3, Interesting
From the linked site:
New in X11 v0.2:
Support for Gnome, KDE hints etc.
I was using the first edition of this, and could not get KDE to compile (using fink).
Before I waste 5 more hours of my (precious) time, does anyone know if KDE will now compile with this new edition?
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Re:How do I get KDE to work with this?
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WatertonMan
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· Score: 4, Informative
KDE works great with this version. I'd suggest compiling 3.1 from cvs though. With this version I find KDE is actually faster than Aqua windows. Great. With X11.b1 I had lots of random crashes and the problem of windows/menus under the OSX menu. X11.b2 fixes all this. As an added bonus OSX fonts now show up in KDE applications. Very nice.
The problem I'm left with is that clicking on a KDE window doesn't bring it to the front over an Aqua window for some reason. Oddly this doesn't affect non-KDE windows, such as Gnome apps like Gnumeric. I can't quite figure that out.
My remaining problem is that I can't seem to copy and paste between X11 apps and OSX apps. I'm not sure why. A few people are left with some phantom processes, even after quitting X11. So that may be what is keeping copy and paste from working right. I'd started it using the kde window manager instead of the aqua-wm manager. So perhaps something was left running that was screwing aqua-wm up.
Still overall it feels faster and from my preliminary testing is much more stable.
Re:How do I get KDE to work with this?
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teridon
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Is there some reason you must compile from source? How about just install the binary with "sudo apt-get install bundle-kde"?
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Downloaded it earlier today...
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Anonymous Coward
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-Installing and running was good.. -connected to a RH box and ran gimp, netscape, magic and they worked great
-I like the fact that my X windows minimize under the doc and don't run inside a super X window. - I wish there are more preferences and a more intutive way to add applications.
Also, Apple should add more info to the getting started section with some 2-way examples.
fink and apple's x11
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brarrr
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What do I need to know about having fink work with apple's x11. I have fink installed on my new ibook, but wanted to wait to see if i should install xfree86 or apple's x11 implementation.
what settings do i set, where, and how. what are the differences between that and xfree86?
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Re:fink and apple's x11
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Null_Packet
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Simply install Apple's X and the X Developer Tools (I think that's what they're called) from Apple and when you compile a Fink app, it will ask what kind of X you have installed. Option 1 is something to the effect of "Manual X11 Install, Placeholder".
Have fun! Fink also has some instructions on their site.
Re:fink and apple's x11
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teridon
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· Score: 3, Informative
2 seconds on google ("fink x11") would've led you here.
-- I hold it, that a little rebellion, now and then, is a good thing. -- Thomas Jefferson
Re:Why the rev change?
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lexarius
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Heaven forbid a piece of beta code based on open source software might require a revision at some point. I mean, if they want us to pay for this software, they should....
Oh.
I'm waiting for...
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goombah99
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I'm waiting for it to reach X12
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Re:I'm waiting for...
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iksowrak
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Poor Nigel would be upset to see it hit 12.
"Nigel Tufnel: Eleven. Exactly. One louder."
What a crock... [Re:Why the rev change?]
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Xcapee
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Was this a troll or lame attempt at humour?
Firstly the X11 thing is beta.
Secondly safari is a beta.
Thirdly, your last link is not even Apple sw.
Given your attitude, I'd say you are too dumb or too careless to be able to figure that out.
Q: How much free software have you released without need for revision?
This is in fact a bug fix, if you can believe that. You will need to create a ~/.xinitrc file that includes a line like this:
exec quartz-wm &
Alternately, you could edit xinitrc file found at/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc, but odds are that will be overwritten in the future. Also, Apple will put up a scare box asking you to ignore your new ~/.xinitrc, why I cannot fathom, but you'll want to dismiss it.
Re:Thank you Apple...
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mbbac
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Focus follows pointer isn't a good idea when you have a global menu bar.
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Re:window manager problems?
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Halo1
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· Score: 3, Informative
Open up the installer again, do a custom install and install the config package.
If you scroll down on the fink site to where they mention the problem with the libraries, they have an update up this morning that says 0.2 doesn't need the fix they've made, so I would assume that means Apple fixed the libraries.
My how times change...
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Anonymous Coward
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I remember that just a few months ago it was X10!
All it did back then was pop up a bunch of ads.
Re:A bug - any ideas?
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Graff
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Is anyone else having touble getting the 'Applications' menu to work? I can't get GIMP to start except by starting it from an xterm and I'd really like to be able to use the menu for it (and other applications).
If executing applications from Terminal instead of xterm you have to type "open-x11 program" instead of just the program name. If you are used to Fink and XDarwin this wasn't necessary. To get it back to the way things used to work, add "setenv DISPLAY:0.0" to your.tcshrc file.
So either set up the menu to use the command "open-x11 gimp" (no quotes), or change your.tcshrc file and you can then just put "gimp" as the command (again, no quotes).
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... What in the world could the roadmap for it be if it's as functional as it is at .1 and .2?
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"Send an Instant Karma to me" - Yes
-Installing and running was good..
-connected to a RH box and ran gimp, netscape, magic and they worked great
-I like the fact that my X windows minimize under the doc and don't run inside a super X window.
- I wish there are more preferences and a more intutive way to add applications.
Also, Apple should add more info to the getting started section with some 2-way examples.
What do I need to know about having fink work with apple's x11. I have fink installed on my new ibook, but wanted to wait to see if i should install xfree86 or apple's x11 implementation.
what settings do i set, where, and how. what are the differences between that and xfree86?
to email me: take my
Heaven forbid a piece of beta code based on open source software might require a revision at some point. I mean, if they want us to pay for this software, they should.... Oh.
I'm waiting for it to reach X12
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
Was this a troll or lame attempt at humour?
Given your attitude, I'd say you are too dumb or too careless to be able to figure that out.
Q: How much free software have you released without need for revision?
Oh shoot! Sig block again.
This is in fact a bug fix, if you can believe that. You will need to create a ~/.xinitrc file that includes a line like this:
/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc, but odds are that will be overwritten in the future. Also, Apple will put up a scare box asking you to ignore your new ~/.xinitrc, why I cannot fathom, but you'll want to dismiss it.
exec quartz-wm &
Alternately, you could edit xinitrc file found at
Focus follows pointer isn't a good idea when you have a global menu bar.
mbbac
Open up the installer again, do a custom install and install the config package.
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If you scroll down on the fink site to where they mention the problem with the libraries, they have an update up this morning that says 0.2 doesn't need the fix they've made, so I would assume that means Apple fixed the libraries.
I remember that just a few months ago it was X10!
All it did back then was pop up a bunch of ads.
The hint you need can be found on this page at MacOS X Hints. Here's the relevant text:
So either set up the menu to use the command "open-x11 gimp" (no quotes), or change your
Sapere aude!