Well, 0.5 is full implementation of the Reality Distortion Field, while 0.7 is implementation of OpenGL 2.0 acceleration. (0.6 is where they fix the RDF before Steve throws a camera and/or 12" PowerBook at somebody.)
0.8 is scheduled to include complete integration of X11 applications with OS X, moving the X11 server running alongside Quartz, while 0.9 is more bug fixes.
Around 1.0, X11 gets merged into Emacs, which then becomes the premiere operating system in 2004, slowly phasing out OS X as we know it today. In other words, they will have reinvented Windows.
Re:How do I get KDE to work with this?
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WatertonMan
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· Score: 4, Informative
KDE works great with this version. I'd suggest compiling 3.1 from cvs though. With this version I find KDE is actually faster than Aqua windows. Great. With X11.b1 I had lots of random crashes and the problem of windows/menus under the OSX menu. X11.b2 fixes all this. As an added bonus OSX fonts now show up in KDE applications. Very nice.
The problem I'm left with is that clicking on a KDE window doesn't bring it to the front over an Aqua window for some reason. Oddly this doesn't affect non-KDE windows, such as Gnome apps like Gnumeric. I can't quite figure that out.
My remaining problem is that I can't seem to copy and paste between X11 apps and OSX apps. I'm not sure why. A few people are left with some phantom processes, even after quitting X11. So that may be what is keeping copy and paste from working right. I'd started it using the kde window manager instead of the aqua-wm manager. So perhaps something was left running that was screwing aqua-wm up.
Still overall it feels faster and from my preliminary testing is much more stable.
Re:fink and apple's x11
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Null_Packet
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· Score: 5, Informative
Simply install Apple's X and the X Developer Tools (I think that's what they're called) from Apple and when you compile a Fink app, it will ask what kind of X you have installed. Option 1 is something to the effect of "Manual X11 Install, Placeholder".
Have fun! Fink also has some instructions on their site.
I'm waiting for...
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goombah99
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· Score: 4, Funny
I'm waiting for it to reach X12
-- Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
Re:I'm waiting for...
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iksowrak
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· Score: 5, Funny
Poor Nigel would be upset to see it hit 12.
"Nigel Tufnel: Eleven. Exactly. One louder."
What a crock... [Re:Why the rev change?]
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Xcapee
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· Score: 4, Interesting
Was this a troll or lame attempt at humour?
Firstly the X11 thing is beta.
Secondly safari is a beta.
Thirdly, your last link is not even Apple sw.
Given your attitude, I'd say you are too dumb or too careless to be able to figure that out.
Q: How much free software have you released without need for revision?
This is in fact a bug fix, if you can believe that. You will need to create a ~/.xinitrc file that includes a line like this:
exec quartz-wm &
Alternately, you could edit xinitrc file found at/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc, but odds are that will be overwritten in the future. Also, Apple will put up a scare box asking you to ignore your new ~/.xinitrc, why I cannot fathom, but you'll want to dismiss it.
Re:Thank you Apple...
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mbbac
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· Score: 5, Insightful
Focus follows pointer isn't a good idea when you have a global menu bar.
If you scroll down on the fink site to where they mention the problem with the libraries, they have an update up this morning that says 0.2 doesn't need the fix they've made, so I would assume that means Apple fixed the libraries.
My how times change...
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Anonymous Coward
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· Score: 4, Funny
I remember that just a few months ago it was X10!
All it did back then was pop up a bunch of ads.
Re:A bug - any ideas?
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Graff
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· Score: 4, Informative
Is anyone else having touble getting the 'Applications' menu to work? I can't get GIMP to start except by starting it from an xterm and I'd really like to be able to use the menu for it (and other applications).
If executing applications from Terminal instead of xterm you have to type "open-x11 program" instead of just the program name. If you are used to Fink and XDarwin this wasn't necessary. To get it back to the way things used to work, add "setenv DISPLAY:0.0" to your.tcshrc file.
So either set up the menu to use the command "open-x11 gimp" (no quotes), or change your.tcshrc file and you can then just put "gimp" as the command (again, no quotes).
... What in the world could the roadmap for it be if it's as functional as it is at .1 and .2?
My own pointless vanity vintage computing page
The problem I'm left with is that clicking on a KDE window doesn't bring it to the front over an Aqua window for some reason. Oddly this doesn't affect non-KDE windows, such as Gnome apps like Gnumeric. I can't quite figure that out.
My remaining problem is that I can't seem to copy and paste between X11 apps and OSX apps. I'm not sure why. A few people are left with some phantom processes, even after quitting X11. So that may be what is keeping copy and paste from working right. I'd started it using the kde window manager instead of the aqua-wm manager. So perhaps something was left running that was screwing aqua-wm up.
Still overall it feels faster and from my preliminary testing is much more stable.
Simply install Apple's X and the X Developer Tools (I think that's what they're called) from Apple and when you compile a Fink app, it will ask what kind of X you have installed. Option 1 is something to the effect of "Manual X11 Install, Placeholder".
Have fun! Fink also has some instructions on their site.
I'm waiting for it to reach X12
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
Was this a troll or lame attempt at humour?
Given your attitude, I'd say you are too dumb or too careless to be able to figure that out.
Q: How much free software have you released without need for revision?
Oh shoot! Sig block again.
This is in fact a bug fix, if you can believe that. You will need to create a ~/.xinitrc file that includes a line like this:
/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc, but odds are that will be overwritten in the future. Also, Apple will put up a scare box asking you to ignore your new ~/.xinitrc, why I cannot fathom, but you'll want to dismiss it.
exec quartz-wm &
Alternately, you could edit xinitrc file found at
Focus follows pointer isn't a good idea when you have a global menu bar.
mbbac
If you scroll down on the fink site to where they mention the problem with the libraries, they have an update up this morning that says 0.2 doesn't need the fix they've made, so I would assume that means Apple fixed the libraries.
I remember that just a few months ago it was X10!
All it did back then was pop up a bunch of ads.
The hint you need can be found on this page at MacOS X Hints. Here's the relevant text:
So either set up the menu to use the command "open-x11 gimp" (no quotes), or change your
Sapere aude!