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Israeli Firm Claims Unbreakable Encryption

Several readers have pointed to an Israeli company's claim of achieving unbreakable encryption. The linked article reports this claim uncritically. Do you think there's such a thing as unbreakable encryption? This isn't the first time someone's made this claim, or second, or third ...

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  1. repeated claim... by danielhsu · · Score: 4, Funny

    > This isn't the first time someone's made this claim, or second, or third ...

    And if this story gets reposted, it'll seem like a fourth!

  2. No such thing by Wrexs0ul · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wonderful article, but how good is encryption when your fundamental flaw in data security is the people who use it?

    Case in point: 128-bit SSL keys, MD5 hashed passwords on a system utilizing firewalls and a database whose data is encrypted by the super-uncrackable-key(tm)... owner connects to the site over the internet via telnet...

    We should invent encrypted people. That way not only would data be safe, but it's so secure the guy next to you has no idea what you're talking about!

    Sincerely,

    -Matt

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    1. Re:No such thing by Eythian · · Score: 2, Funny
      We should invent encrypted people. That way not only would data be safe, but it's so secure the guy next to you has no idea what you're talking about!

      I have heard of such people. I believe they are known as "programmers".

  3. Encryption and compression by atcurtis · · Score: 5, Funny
    I have an amazing encryption and compression method - it encrypts and compresses any message into a single binary bit! No one else can decipher the message... not even the recipient... unless they have the decryption key...

    Which is unfortunately 2x the size of the original message.

    Ho hum...

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  4. Oh Good... by Senjutsu · · Score: 2, Funny

    A preview from next month's Dog House section of the Crypto-Gram.

    A One Million bit key? Unbreakable? Schneier is going to have a field day with this one.

  5. Re:Exceptionally random cipher text by Jason1729 · · Score: 4, Funny

    How can a deterministic computer create anything more then pseudorandom ?

    By using lava lamps, of course

    Jason
    ProfQuotes

  6. This one calls for... by hdparm · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...Ask Kevin Mitnick - Part II.

  7. My unbreakable encryption scheme! by Alsee · · Score: 5, Funny

    Take input file and pipe it to dev/nul,
    Take dev/random and pipe it to output file.

    Guaranteed unbreakable encryption!

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    1. Re:My unbreakable encryption scheme! by cthugha · · Score: 5, Funny

      Guaranteed unbreakable encryption!

      Not entirely. There is a slight chance that the output from /dev/random will be identical to the original message. :)

    2. Re:My unbreakable encryption scheme! by nahdude812 · · Score: 3, Funny
      that's still technically brute-forceable. We can do the infinite monkeys at an infinite number of typewriters thing, and at some point a monkey would have typed your original message. We may not know he did, but it would have happened. Lets take an example from my fortune file:

      The saying goes: if an infinite number of monkeys typed on an infinite number of typewriters, eventually
      all the great works of mankind would emerge. Now, with today's high speed computers, we can finally test
      this theory...

      Lzskd jfy 92y;ho4 th;qlh sd 6yty;q2 hnlj 8sdf. Djfy 92y;ho4, th;qxhz d7yty;
      Q0hnlj 23&^ (# ljask djf y92y; fy92y; Sd6y ty;q2h nl jk la gfa harvin garvel
      lasdfsd a83sl la8z ks8l 92y;ho4 th;qlh sd 6yty;q2 hnlj 8sdf. Djfy 92y;ho4,
      th;qxhz d7yty; Q0hnlj 23&^ nknod mrs88 jsd79lfm#%$JLaoz6df lso7dj f2 jfls
      67d9ol1@2fou99s 1lkj2 @l.k1 2; a89o7aljf 1l3i7ou8 d8l3 lqwerty0092 #1!
      ja9o do8lkjj139rojsd9**!l6*hd # ljasd78 l2awkjad78 3ol7asljf 3 ldif & l.js
      Ll ls ewan la8uj 23lll7u 8l 3h hhxx8 8d lsd fixx 891lkjno99sl d8l@@@!!8#8
      dfoil jarooda mklaoorj nowai the smisthliylka jkdlfjiw ladajadra lthhheeejfjl
      dkddooolda bub mirznod of the koojgaf!! But 2 be or not to be... that is the
      question. Then when shall we three meet again In thunder, lightning, or in
      rain? When the hurlyburly's done, When the battle's lost and won. That will
      be ere the set of sun. Where the place? Upon the heath. There to meet with
      Macbeth. But hath forth not to want..... a banana, or to be.... a banana.
      Banana, I knew him banana. Banana banana. Banana banana banana banana.

      Well... hmm.... it seemed like a good idea...
  8. LOL "Why do we keep pronounce VME is unbreakable" by accident · · Score: 4, Funny
    (grammar theirs)
    When a transmission of conventional algorithm is sent, it includes an encrypted form of the actual data. Given that a hacker have enough computing power and time, any message can be deciphered. With the VME engine the case is different; the actual data is never transferred. Therefore, when intercepted by a hacker, the results will yield absolutely nothing. [source]
    This is so incredible I just can't read anymore.
  9. Re:One Time Pad by borgdows · · Score: 2, Funny

    >There is no uncrackable encryption. therefore, information is free.

    free as beer? or Free as speech?

  10. You can't beat my encryption device. by StormyWeather · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's my girlfriend. Many men have tried, and to date none have been able to figure her out.

    Bit pricy though.

    1. Re:You can't beat my encryption device. by Rip!ey · · Score: 2, Funny

      I thought my ex-girlfriend was uncrackable. Turns out she was a two-timing pad. Bitch. :-)

  11. This reminds me.. by attackiko · · Score: 5, Funny

    There used to be a Windows program called "Unbreakable security" which, among other things, could encrypt a file and put it in self opening .exe file (you had to enter the password).

    So I tried to crack the program and found out it was fairly easy to do (took me a few hours). But then I discovered that the program had a bug which caused the blank password to be accepted as valid password. So much about Unbreakable security.

  12. Re:One Time Pad by isorox · · Score: 3, Funny

    How do the parties get the pads?

    Via email. Use a one-time-pad to encypt it.

  13. Please do not be so scathing... by Zemran · · Score: 4, Funny

    I know what it is like to be misunderstood. I have this brilliant, gauranteed, money making scheme that no-one has faith in. If you send my £25 I will tell you all about it.

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  14. _Really_ unbreakable encryption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I invented a _really_ unbreakable encryption, 5600 times more unbreakable than theirs.

    Give recipient the key, being a CD-ROM full of random numbers, and tell him to xor every bit of the encrypted message with the corresponding bit on the CD, at an offset that starts at the message's timecode.

    700 MB (5600 Mb) key length - let them suck on that. As secure as the physical protection of the key CD itself.

  15. Re:pffft by Jaysyn · · Score: 3, Funny

    There's probably 2 million people who can code in C in India alone.

    Jaysyn

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  16. Next up on Slashdot.... by worst_name_ever · · Score: 3, Funny

    British firm claims unsinkable ship...

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  17. "This perpetual motion machine Lisa built. . . by kfg · · Score: 4, Funny

    doesn't work. It just keeps going faster and faster."

    It is the perennial cry of the snake oil crowd that the "establishment" won't take their claims seriously. It never, *ever* seems to occur to them that this is because their claims are *provably* whacko. Especially where purely mathmatical structures are concerned.

    Most snake oil saleman didn't do very well in math at school, although this personal limitation has never seemed to stand in the way of their being able to seriously cook a set of books to display for the investors.

    KFG

  18. Re:Wouldn't infinite monkeys by sql*kitten · · Score: 3, Funny

    at infinite typewriters eventually produce the great works of shakespear?

    That theory was proved false by the invention of Usenet.

  19. prize is a million dollars OR a ferrari? by geeklawyer · · Score: 2, Funny

    new ferrari: approx. $200,000.

    $1,000,000 - $200,000 = $800,000

    These guys are cryptographers?

    I'll take the million dollars and buy 5 ferraris thanks.

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    journal
  20. s/CNN/New York Times by rjh · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... but the opinions of the New York Times editorial staff certainly are. :)

  21. Top 5 Impossible Claims That Still Get Press by salesgeek · · Score: 2, Funny

    I can't believe the press falls for the following claims which have a track record of being 100% false:

    1) The end of the world is coming... next year.
    2) 150MPG Automobile
    3) Unbreakable Encryption/Copy Protection/Computer Security (this claim replaced the uncrackable safe and the unpickable lock)
    4) We'll run out of food in 10 years!
    5) This year, the Cubs will win the World Series

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  22. In other news... by supabeast! · · Score: 2, Funny

    Israeli firms generates free publicity with ludicrous claims.

  23. MOD PARENT SIDEWAYS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    pls

  24. Re:One Time Pad by Thing+1 · · Score: 4, Funny
    Getting good-enough randomness is easy enough now-adays. I mean, heck, check out random.org .

    There's a link at random.org: "For non-random numbers, try NoEntropy.net! "

    From their site:

    Generating deterministic numbers is a complicated business. NoEntropy.net uses a unique combination of tried and tested algorithms to provide you with the finest in deterministic numbers. After they are generated, the numbers are subjected to further filters to remove any remaining randomness. Finally, complicated, state-of-the-art statistical tools are used to check that the numbers you get are completely deterministic.

    A mouthful, no? There's a form you can fill out to request deterministic numbers (up to 10,000). The default is 100.

    The punchline: all the numbers are "1".

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