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Buck Mulligan writes "The folks at Privacy International are holding a stupid security contest to discover the "world's most pointless, intrusive, annoying and self-serving security measures." Nominations can be submitted by email: stupidsecurity@privacy.org. My vote goes to the Ronald Reagan 'Free Trade' Center in Washington, where you have to show your driver's license to visit the food court. (Having a driver's license proves that you aren't dangerous!)"

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  1. How about ... by a2800276 · · Score: 2, Redundant
  2. Stupid Security by Captain+Large+Face · · Score: 3, Funny

    How about...

    Using a one million bit key and claiming it's uncrackable on Slashdot?

  3. Signature via fax by DrSkwid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    & also "Company Letterhead via fax"

    I've encountered both of those as some sort of "security"

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    1. Re:Signature via fax by rikkus-x · · Score: 2, Funny

      Some years ago I went to a branch of my bank in the middle of nowhere. I didn't have my card for some reason so they got me to sign something and faxed it to my 'home' branch for verification.

      Seems close enough to safe to me.

      Rik

  4. I got one. by TripleA · · Score: 3, Interesting

    US web-vendors that requires international customers to e-mail or fax in a copy of their ID and credit card. Mailing a picture of the card kinda defeats the purpose of the secure, encrypted order form.

    1. Re:I got one. by bmetzler · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Well, the picture of the card is not sent via encrypted email, so it's not secure at all.

      Oh.

      I missed the email part. I just saw fax and mailing, and thought that it was a physical copy that they actually wanted to receive. Obviously email a graphic isn't a very good idea, considering it's probably easy to photoshop a CC image to begin with.

      -Brent
  5. (Chemical) labs at universities by tsa · · Score: 2, Informative

    I find it strange that there is (almost) no security at all in many chemical labs at universities in Holland where I've been. Anyone can walk in and pick up some chemicals, some of which are very dangerous if you don't know how to handle them. Of course people who work there can always take anything they want, but people who just happen to be there are not (much) resticted.

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    1. Re:(Chemical) labs at universities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's not poor security so much as criminally poor chemical handling. Chemicals should be separated according to class, acids with acids and bases separate. Flamables away from the oxidizers etc... They should be in the proper cabinets and locked. And lastly anyone who works in a lab should keep everyone who doesn't need to be there out. No exceptions.

  6. Airport questions by Col.+Klink+(retired) · · Score: 4, Funny

    I guess they've stopped doing this, but the airline ticket agents asking if you're a terrorist always seemed pretty stupid to me.

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    1. Re:Airport questions by loydcc · · Score: 2, Funny
      My favorite airport questions are "Did you pack your bags yourself?" and "Have your bags been out of your control?" But the all time favorite one I got from British Airways was "Have you accepted any gifts from strangers?"

      Are there any kids who went to a public school in the 70's who remember the Redlight-Greenlight movies? I know I must have seen one every friday in the cafetorium from K through 4th grade. I won't even look at strangers after seeing those movies. Nevermind accepting presents from them.

  7. Network Solutions takes the cake by ip_vjl · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How about the "Fax us the change request on company letterhead" for making changes when you don't have the admin password.

    Like nobody could possibly fake that.

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    What's the point of the notary seal (embossed) when I'm going to fax it?

  8. Identification by david+duncan+scott · · Score: 2, Informative
    Having a driver's license proves that you aren't dangerous!

    No, of course not, but showing a DL makes you somewhat accountable -- would you rather chase "Caucasion male between 5'6" and 6', with brownish-blondish hair and average build", or "John Smith, 123 Maple Sreet, Clevland OH"?

    Sure, credentials can be forged, but at least you've raised the bar.

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    1. Re:Identification by david+duncan+scott · · Score: 2, Insightful
      You're right about 9/11, of course, but suicide bombers are the extreme case. A truck bomb could certainly flatten my house, but I still lock the dead-bolt at night because I'm also concerned with ordinary criminals. I lock my car even though a moderately-skilled thief could still take it, because there are also even less skilled thieves who will be stopped unless I leave the keys in the ignition.

      As for what security guards will remember, you never know. Ask one of them sometime. Some of those guys are ex- or off-duty cops, and cops often have remarkable memories. Furthermore, there may be a camera in the ceiling overhead.

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    2. Re:Identification by parliboy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You've circuitously explained the real problem. The true state of security is such that I would get in with a DL that says, "John Smith, 123 Maple Sreet, Clevland OH"

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  9. JavaScript by SoCalChris · · Score: 3, Insightful

    JavaScript on web pages that won't allow you to right click. Very stupid "security", and highly annoying too! Not to mention that it is super easy to get around...

    1. Re:JavaScript by sporty · · Score: 2, Funny
      super easy to get around...


      The early 90's are calling. THey want their phrase back.

      Sorry, couldn't help it :)
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  10. XP explorer by octalgirl · · Score: 2, Informative

    When you use Explorer, which used to mean you would see everything about your computer in one fell swoop, clicking or double-clicking on My Network Places does nothing. You now have to right-click and Explore again if you actually want to get there. It seems it's because some users were getting into Network Neighborhood accidentaly and noticing there were other computers out there, possilby not locked down properly. But really, making someone right-click again, that is not better security, it's reduced functionality.

  11. Drivers licence discrimination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    you have to show your driver's license to visit the food court.

    Heh
    Being blind this _really_ anoys me. The number of places that won't accept anything other than a drivers licence as a form of identity.

    Before now I've had to explain to people _why_ I don't have a drivers licence!

  12. The VISA application for the US by aWalrus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Have you guys ever seen one of those things? There's this form you have to fill when you request a VISA for travelling into the US. I think it's the same for most foreign countries. In Mexico, at least, it has about 10 checkboxes that look something like this:
    - I am a member of a violent terrorist organization yes / no
    - I am trafficking drugs/weapons/any sort of illegal substances into the US yes / no
    - I am an active member of a hate/racist group involved in violent attacks of minorities yes / no
    - I engage in satanic rituals.... etc. etc.

    I'm not kidding you. This is the sort of things the form actually asks. I guess there may be a legal precedent as to the need for these questions, but it's funny as hell anyway. Or maybe it actually works for stopping extremely stupid hatemongers / drug dealers from travelling into the country.

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  13. Windows 95/98 password by pkphilip · · Score: 2, Funny

    the password prompt that pops up on system startup, which can be safely ignored.

  14. Stupidest security... by velcrokitty · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My favourite as of late is applying to security-minded companies, and embedding an image in my email from a server that I have access to. I can watch it as my cover-letter is passed from one department to another. I get to see what systems they are using, and I've found that a lot of companies have their IT department running one version of OS with a Google browser, while HR runs another version of OS (usually XP), and internal managers or reviewers running yet again another OS...

    Sillies. You want security, don't claim to be a security firm and yet allow people to view your internal operations... Sillies...

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  15. "What's the Pythagorean Theorem?" by GuyMannDude · · Score: 2, Funny

    My friend (who is Australian but of Indian decent) recently re-entered the country from a vacation Down Under. At the airport, the guards put him through all sorts of questions. Among them was "How did you get your Green Card?". When my friend, a professor of Mathematics, replied that he got it through an Outstanding Researcher program, the guard asked him "So, are you an outstanding researcher in mathematics?". My buddy, groggy from a double-digit-hour flight, replied "Well, I guess I am." The guard then asked him "What's the Pythagorean Theorem?" to test him. My friend couldn't believe his ears. This question was supposed to determine whether my friend really was a mathematics professor? Every kid who went through high school math knows that one!

    I feel safer already knowing we've got such intelligent guards monitoring our borders...

    GMD

    1. Re:"What's the Pythagorean Theorem?" by jpsst34 · · Score: 2, Funny

      On a related, but different note, I once went into CompUSA with my girlfriend. She was wearing her university's Computer Engineering t-shirt. Upon seeing this, the mo working there said, "Oooh, computer engineering. Quick! What's RAM mean?"

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  16. The Passport Bureau by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I'm utterly serious. I went to renew my passport, and they wouldn't accept as ID either my birth certificate or learner's permit (Current and valid non-driver ID in the state of NY - good as a driver's license for any legal identification purpose!).

    What they DID accept was my recently expired college ID. WHAT???

    And if you want to call and complain to the passport office, it's a toll number!

  17. Cardiff Airport by rpjs · · Score: 2, Funny

    This was a few years ago, back in 1999,so may well have changed (probably got stupider). Here in the UK we still don't need to show ID when checking in for domestic flights (a couple of airlines require it since 9/11, but it's not required by the government). However when me and my girlfriend flew from Cardiff to Belfast in June 1999, after having gone through the gate, before boarding the plane we had to show our boarding passes to a plain-clothes policeman who wrote down our names. No doubt this was because of the ongoing unpleasantnesses in Northern Ireland, and the police were taking it seriously enough that when the guy in front of us objected he was pulled from the line and eventually was last onto the plane bearing a very pissed-off expression.

    The thing is though, is that the *only* ID they asked for was the boarding passes, with no corroboration that the names on them were our real names. Presumably the South Wales Police have come to an understanding with the IRA and UVF who've agreed that their guys would never dream of buying airline tickets cash and supplying a false name, or with a fake/stolen card.

  18. How about... by aztektum · · Score: 2, Funny

    Patriot Act?

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