Posted by
timothy
on from the sweetness-and-light dept.
MeatWad writes "Sony has announced the SJ33 Palm OS 4 model with a high res color screen and mp3 player for $299. At the same time the FCC has leaked info on the next Palm OS 5 Clie with bluetooth and an integrated keyboard called the TG50. Sony can sure crank out the cool gadgets."
Aren't their documents public information? I believe that is how people are finding them. I know that the blue tooth integration in the new powerbooks was leaked in the same manner, and I remember some handspring stuff getting out like this also. In the case of apple, they pulled the application.
If the documents are not pulic info, then the FCC needs to get to know the ins and outs of a little document called the NDA.
www.nilepoc.com
He's half-wrong...
by
TopShelf
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The SJ33 upgrades the SJ30's 33MHz processor to the 66MHz Dragonball Super VZ running Palm OS v4.1. It has 16 MB of internal RAM (of which 15MB are available) and 4 MB of flash ROM.
The SJ33 uses standard memory sticks although the device doesn't come with one. With the focus on music playback, Sony might want to consider bundling offers because users are definitely going to need one. It is not compatible with the forthcoming Memory Sick Pro format.
The info and pictures get "leaked" when Sony, Palm, or anyone else who makes an electronic device has it reviewed by the FCC before it goes retail. The info get's entered into the FCC's database, which is searchable from the web. I guess there are people who check the FCC search engine every day for new stuff from Sony, Palm, Sharp, etc.
Insightful???????
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Dot.Com.CEO
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I beg your pardon mods, but thiscomment is not insightful. It is, in fact, uninformed and irrelevant. Sony has been one of the first companies out there to do something about digital rights management in an unintrusive way. The drm that comes with my net-md is completely transparent to me and, frankly, I cannot imagine how the hell someone can be inconvenienced by it. You, for philosophical or ethical reasons might be against Sony in the greater plane of things, but they have been CONSISTENTLY putting out EXCELLENT quality gadgets that work seamlessly with one another.
Sony are one of the few companies out there that make gadgets that people drool over AND are happy to own - the novelty does not wear off in 5 minutes. I feel they should be applauded for that.
Anyway, if you are so vocal about the DMCA go out and vote against the congressmen who voted for it, don't sit there writing half-arsed one liners on/.
-- Mother is the best bet and don't let Satan draw you too fast.
Re:Insightful???????
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homer_ca
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Do you mean unobtrusive DRM like in this review? The NetMD walkman is upload only and it won't play MP3 files directly. The bundled software converts it to their OpenMG format which is copy protected AND you take a big hit in sound quality because you're converting from one lossy codec to another AND it slows down uploading unless you want to duplicate your music collection in OpenMG files. If you think that's annoying, that's only after their 1st generation of players flopped badly due to even more intrusive DRM. Try googling for a review of the Sony Music Clip. I'll admit that Sony has good design and their CRT televisions have good picture quality, but overall their build quality has gone downhill especially on their stuff not made in Japan. It's not crap, but it doesn't justify their higher prices compared to other consumer electronics makers either.
Ultimate PDA
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Frank+of+Earth
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has: - MP3 - Expandable storage - Color - keyboard - Cellphone - some type of belt clip/holster - flat rate for internet service - OS: Palm or WinCE. Most would probably prefer Palm - Nice to have webcam
One could pair the new Sony TG50 with the Sony T68i cell phone [free with rebates] with built in bluetooth. However, the limited factor here is T-Mobile doesn't offer a flat rate for internet service. Personally, I don't want to be constantly worried about going over my usage limit.
Or you can wait for the new Hitachi, but the size is pretty big and who knows how much the service plans would cost. If through Sprint and they have a similar rate as the Treo 300; very promising! As long as you can get over WinCE
There is also the Sidekick which I almost bought. Thankfully I decided to swing by compusa first to take a gander at the size. The thing is a brick! What is really cool is that you get unlimited internet access for the first year and you can do some cool hip logging which also includes support for sending small pictures. Very inticing, but the product is just way to big, is grayscale and seems to have some serious bugs as a cell phone [doesn't ring!]
My plan was to wait and wait for this magical all in one device. However, I need a cell phone and I finally bit the bullet and got a Treo 300 It lacks expandability so I could never use it as a mp3 player, but it will suffice until the next series of Treos are introduced. With the unlimited flat rate for internet access how could I go wrong? Not to mention you can use it as a wireless modem
I think the cell phone/pda market is definately going in the right direction and I hope by the end of the year, there will be quite a few products out there that I can label as an "ultimate pda".
One small note. The Palm Tungsten W will include many of these features, but in order to use it as a cell phone, you must plug in the headset. This is just retarded. Imagine getting a phone call and having to fish around to plug in your headset?
Lets just hope that the new Treo's are build on PalmOS 5.x and will include expansion [mp3!] Shortly there after, you should see my Treo on ebay for a good price.
Re:The article mentions an mp3 player
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ez76
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Where in hell are you getting this? I didn't see it in the articles. Besides, you can get Memory Sticks up to 1GB right now. Did you misread something?
The biggest Memory Sticks available currently are 128MB.
256MB and 512MB memory sticks will be coming out this Spring but they will be bank-switched (i.e. a mechanical switch will let you choose which 128MB of RAM you want to use).
Pretty lame.
sony keyboards
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krokodil
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I've had a Clie for a year and Keyboard there sucks. Keys organization is bad, they are hard to press, labels are not clear enough.
Now I have Treo. Even though overall it is not so good as Clie, it have very usable keyboard (stolen from blackberry I heard).
So, if keyboard is important for you - look at Handspring Treo.
Re:Handhelds v Gameboys v Graph Calcs v Cell phone
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sunspot42
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The problem is, these all in one gadgets tend to do everything POORLY, and for a lot of money. I just replaced my old Handspring Visor with a Palm Zire, because I didn't want to blow $300+ on a combo cell phone / handheld that'd I'd probably just end up losing 6 months down the road. The Zire only set me back $75 on Amazon after a rebate, and even though it offers nothing in the way of functionality over the old Handspring (apart from faster synchs - it's USB - and a rechargeable battery that lasts forever between charges), it does everything I need.
I do think there would be be a market for an inexpensive combo device that's a combination iPod, cell phone and organizer, though. It would be nice to cut down on the number of gadgets you have to carry around, and the organizer's display (and OS) would come in handy for manipulating playlists on the jukebox. Unfortunately, I don't think we're quite at the point where such a gadget could be offered for a reasonable price (under $300), but by this time next year, who knows.
If Apple were smart, such a gadget could be their next killer consumer product. Do they still own the Newton OS?
virusmyth
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Anonymous Coward
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The "HIV==AIDS" hypothesis is the biggest medical fraud in human history. http://www.virusmyth.net/
Even if everything on that site were correct, what is wrong with practicing safe sex and informing your partner of your HIV status so that they can make their own informed decisions?
And scientifically, HIV infection is closely correlated with the development of serious illnesses and death about a decade later, as cohort studies that have followed hundreds of individuals from before seroconversion to death have shown. Furthermore, treatments do seem to have some overall positive effect on survival (but nobody disputes that they have very serious side effects, and it's certainly perfectly reasonable to choose not to take them). Whether HIV is merely a marker, a co-factor, or the sole cause of disease or death is academically interesting, but it has little bearing on public health policies and treatment; policies and treatments are based on demonstrable outcomes in controled trials, not on hypotheses.
Scientifically, the pieces actually fit pretty well together; HIV is much better understood at this point than most other viral diseases. But such understanding may not result in treatments; some things just aren't fixable.
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In fact we should not forget sj22, which is basically the same as sj33 without the audio capability.
Aren't their documents public information? I believe that is how people are finding them. I know that the blue tooth integration in the new powerbooks was leaked in the same manner, and I remember some handspring stuff getting out like this also. In the case of apple, they pulled the application.
If the documents are not pulic info, then the FCC needs to get to know the ins and outs of a little document called the NDA.
www.nilepoc.com
Stop by my site where I write about ERP systems & more
The info and pictures get "leaked" when Sony, Palm, or anyone else who makes an electronic device has it reviewed by the FCC before it goes retail. The info get's entered into the FCC's database, which is searchable from the web. I guess there are people who check the FCC search engine every day for new stuff from Sony, Palm, Sharp, etc.
Sony are one of the few companies out there that make gadgets that people drool over AND are happy to own - the novelty does not wear off in 5 minutes. I feel they should be applauded for that. Anyway, if you are so vocal about the DMCA go out and vote against the congressmen who voted for it, don't sit there writing half-arsed one liners on /.
Mother is the best bet and don't let Satan draw you too fast.
has:
- MP3
- Expandable storage
- Color
- keyboard
- Cellphone
- some type of belt clip/holster
- flat rate for internet service
- OS: Palm or WinCE. Most would probably prefer Palm
- Nice to have webcam
One could pair the new Sony TG50 with the Sony T68i cell phone [free with rebates] with built in bluetooth. However, the limited factor here is T-Mobile doesn't offer a flat rate for internet service. Personally, I don't want to be constantly worried about going over my usage limit.
Or you can wait for the new Hitachi, but the size is pretty big and who knows how much the service plans would cost. If through Sprint and they have a similar rate as the Treo 300; very promising! As long as you can get over WinCE
There is also the Sidekick which I almost bought. Thankfully I decided to swing by compusa first to take a gander at the size. The thing is a brick! What is really cool is that you get unlimited internet access for the first year and you can do some cool hip logging which also includes support for sending small pictures. Very inticing, but the product is just way to big, is grayscale and seems to have some serious bugs as a cell phone [doesn't ring!]
My plan was to wait and wait for this magical all in one device. However, I need a cell phone and I finally bit the bullet and got a Treo 300 It lacks expandability so I could never use it as a mp3 player, but it will suffice until the next series of Treos are introduced. With the unlimited flat rate for internet access how could I go wrong? Not to mention you can use it as a wireless modem
I think the cell phone/pda market is definately going in the right direction and I hope by the end of the year, there will be quite a few products out there that I can label as an "ultimate pda".
One small note. The Palm Tungsten W will include many of these features, but in order to use it as a cell phone, you must plug in the headset. This is just retarded. Imagine getting a phone call and having to fish around to plug in your headset?
Lets just hope that the new Treo's are build on PalmOS 5.x and will include expansion [mp3!] Shortly there after, you should see my Treo on ebay for a good price.
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256MB and 512MB memory sticks will be coming out this Spring but they will be bank-switched (i.e. a mechanical switch will let you choose which 128MB of RAM you want to use).
Pretty lame.
I've had a Clie for a year and Keyboard there sucks. Keys organization is bad, they are hard to press, labels are not clear enough.
Now I have Treo. Even though overall it is not so good as Clie, it have very usable keyboard (stolen from blackberry I heard).
So, if keyboard is important for you - look at Handspring Treo.
The problem is, these all in one gadgets tend to do everything POORLY, and for a lot of money. I just replaced my old Handspring Visor with a Palm Zire, because I didn't want to blow $300+ on a combo cell phone / handheld that'd I'd probably just end up losing 6 months down the road. The Zire only set me back $75 on Amazon after a rebate, and even though it offers nothing in the way of functionality over the old Handspring (apart from faster synchs - it's USB - and a rechargeable battery that lasts forever between charges), it does everything I need.
I do think there would be be a market for an inexpensive combo device that's a combination iPod, cell phone and organizer, though. It would be nice to cut down on the number of gadgets you have to carry around, and the organizer's display (and OS) would come in handy for manipulating playlists on the jukebox. Unfortunately, I don't think we're quite at the point where such a gadget could be offered for a reasonable price (under $300), but by this time next year, who knows.
If Apple were smart, such a gadget could be their next killer consumer product. Do they still own the Newton OS?
Even if everything on that site were correct, what is wrong with practicing safe sex and informing your partner of your HIV status so that they can make their own informed decisions?
And scientifically, HIV infection is closely correlated with the development of serious illnesses and death about a decade later, as cohort studies that have followed hundreds of individuals from before seroconversion to death have shown. Furthermore, treatments do seem to have some overall positive effect on survival (but nobody disputes that they have very serious side effects, and it's certainly perfectly reasonable to choose not to take them). Whether HIV is merely a marker, a co-factor, or the sole cause of disease or death is academically interesting, but it has little bearing on public health policies and treatment; policies and treatments are based on demonstrable outcomes in controled trials, not on hypotheses.
Scientifically, the pieces actually fit pretty well together; HIV is much better understood at this point than most other viral diseases. But such understanding may not result in treatments; some things just aren't fixable.