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Gameboy Advance SP Reviewed & Disassembled

lotech writes "lik-sang has a review with full photos of the new Nintendo Ganeboy Advance SP. Not just supplying heaps of photos they have even beaten the pack on voiding the warranty and include heaps of internal photos. The handheld market is heating up with new releases from Nokia too and also the feature packed GP32. Oh and maybe then there maybe some Sony competition soon?"

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  1. On the box it reads: by Lethyos · · Score: 4, Funny

    "New front light screen"

    Sounds a lot like engrish to me.

    "GameBoy SP new and much enjoyable front light screen! All GameBoy games can you have play!"

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    1. Re:On the box it reads: by MidnightBrewer · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's the same in Japanese, actually. They just use the English. :)

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  2. This is the TiBook of handheld consoles... by Max+Romantschuk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, seriously... I really think it looks much cooler than the stuff Nintendo has done so far. Anyone else think it's all or partially Apples "fault"? And I mean that as a good thing.

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  3. Linux? by TiMac · · Score: 4, Funny
    So who's gonna be the first Slashdotter to get a Linux distro to run on it?

    PS2...Xbox.....Gameboy Advance?

    No...it's not ENTIRELY flamebait. :)

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  4. With the size of a mini CD I don't see why Sony .. by adzoox · · Score: 5, Interesting
    With the size of a mini CD I don't see why Sony ... could make something with a 3 inch screen and mini DVD and integrated controls. No expnsion slot needed just USB for ethernet, memory, etc.

    Make it capable of using Mini DVD Videos like the Hitachi Camcorders. Other features: TV out, USB, Mp3 capability. I think this would be a popular convergence.

    They could even release 5 game PS1 packs on one mini DVD. Most of those games were 100 - 300 MB.

    I believe battery technology is where it would need to be for a unit like this as well.

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  5. More GBA SP Impressions by Omkar · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here (PGC)
    and some nice pics Here. Boy, this is late!

  6. multiple functionality key by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If current devices just keep getting smaller, soon I'll have a jumble of things bouncing off my keychain. It's stupid. I can't hold a feather up to my ear to talk on, or a piece of paper for playing games on. I want some feedback from gravity to know if my phone has gone silent because the connection dropped or I dropped it!

    The better solution by far would be to combine a few of them so that my phone, pocket computer, camera and portable game machine all fit in one nice small (but not too small) package. If the manufacturers don't figure that out, they won't be selling them for much longer. The market for these things is hitting the point of diminishing to no returns.

  7. Gameboy is made by NINTENDO, not Sony. by Viewsonic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But either way, none of Sonys products are competing with the Gameboy as they're all over $100 and arent specifically for games. They're PDAs first and formost, while games are at the bottom of the list, which is why the Gameboy will never be replaced. Same with the Nokia unit, it's nearly $400-500 and is a clunky phone first, and a game machine second. Wont work.

  8. And another new console design... by Memetic · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Another new design called B'ngo,a sub $200 handheld console / phone is covered on The Register.

  9. Cynical Nintendo marketing or just bad design? by DrXym · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The GBA shipped with a shiny, glarey, barely visible screen with no backlight. Was this just gross incompetance on the part of Nintendo or part of some scheme to keep selling us new models that promise to fix the massive deficiencies in the last one? I find it hard to believe they didn't know, all the way through developing and testing the thing that the screen was so appalling. How much would the backlight circuitry have cost them? A few cents maybe?


    Frankly, I might have bought more games for my GBA if I thought I could actually see them. Instead it sits in a drawer except for occasional forays in good lighting. Nintendo can go to hell if they think I'm going to make the same mistake twice.

    1. Re:Cynical Nintendo marketing or just bad design? by SkreamNet · · Score: 5, Insightful

      One big selling point of the GameBoy has always been long battery life. Lighted screens eat battery life. Therefore Nintendo tried to make a screen that made the most of ambient light rather than to backlight it. I know of a lot of folks that appreciated that, and had no problems with the screen. My palm has a backlight, but I never turn the thing on... same with my TV's remote control. I'm not willing to lose the battery life.

    2. Re:Cynical Nintendo marketing or just bad design? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      nintendo said that they had a given price they wanted to achieve with the GBA, and that they would rather include a bad screen than a slow processor since you can upgrade the screen later, but if you want to upgrade the processor, you'll have to change the games, and making a console obsolete after just one year is probably worse than what they've done now.

    3. Re:Cynical Nintendo marketing or just bad design? by moncyb · · Score: 3, Funny

      Why don't they put a hand crank on the side so you can recharge the thing? Then they could have a really bright screen and a fast power-hungry processor. I can see it now. All the kiddies playing their games and cranking on the box like a monkey! Well, okay, more like the organ grinder who owns the monkey. In fact, the game's goal could be to keep the unit charged. ;-)

  10. Uh, no. by Viewsonic · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Nintendo has been doing little flip-open portable game systems long before Apple did anything cute with their computers.

    1. Re:Uh, no. by Max+Romantschuk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nintendo has been doing little flip-open portable game systems long before Apple did anything cute with their computers.

      I was actually referring to the silver look and generally stylish design, as opposed to the orange 80's Donkey Kong flip-open thingies.

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  11. Hmmm... GBA-SP or NGC? by rickthewizkid · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm trying to decide which one I want. Both have their appeal.

    Of course, One question I had when I heard about the GSP was that the e-reader wouldn't work with it. I would imagine that with the homebrew/demo scene that the original GBA would be better because one could decode the protocol used on the e-reader, print your own cards, and publish your own game that way. That, plus the GSP probably has new "license protection"/DRM/Region Coding/Developer lockout/authentication etc. that the original GBA doesn'have.

    Just my Z80's worth
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    1. Re:Hmmm... GBA-SP or NGC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      SP has no lockouts, its the exact same damn hardware as GBA.
      And the e-reader DOES work it.

    2. Re:Hmmm... GBA-SP or NGC? by Cutriss · · Score: 2, Informative

      Of course, One question I had when I heard about the GSP was that the e-reader wouldn't work with it.

      This was already answered once, but the e-Reader *does* work with the GBA-SP. The expansion plug on the bottom of the mechanism fits just over the bottom edge of the unit, not really getting in the way (unless you hold your GBA weird). Then again, the e-Reader wasn't designed for long-term ergonomics, so it's doubtful you'd really be playing anything on it for longer than an hour.

      I would imagine that with the homebrew/demo scene that the original GBA would be better because one could decode the protocol used on the e-reader, print your own cards, and publish your own game that way.

      The dot resolution on the e-Cards is probably a couple of degrees finer than your standard household inkjet printer. Think about it. The strip is about 3/8" wide, and about 3" long (don't have one on me to measure, so these are estimates). That means you have about 1.125 square inches of data to store about 2KB, or 16000 bits. sqrt(1.125) gives an average side length of 1.0606", and sqrt(16000) gives 126.49...so you'd have to have approximately 120 distinct dot positions per inch, assuming that there's no uber-compression scheme going on there.

      I don't think your home printer can handle that. Perhaps a laser printer, but who knows. Not me, that's for sure.

      That, plus the GSP probably has new "license protection"/DRM/Region Coding/Developer lockout/authentication etc. that the original GBA doesn'have.

      As has already been mentioned and modded up, the Game Boy line (including the Virtual Boy) has never had any physical or logical region protection system. The most you could say for "developer lockout" is the pursuit and C&D of resellers of flash-linker kits, which have a secondary (and some would argue "primary") use of being able to load and play GB roms downloaded from the Internet.

      I understand the interest in developing for these, as I tinker around with them a bit, but it does say something when I'm playing Oracle of Seasons prior to class yesterday, and a kid three seats down from me doesn't recognize the larger GBC cartridge and thinks I'm using a flash cart. When I tell him it's just an older game, he's like "Wow...did you know you can buy a blank cartridge and download games from the Internet on it?"

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  12. So sell your GBA on ebay, and get a SP.... by Viewsonic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Geesh, with all the awesome games on the GBA, you'll be missing out bigtime. Unless games really dont mean much to you. Or just get the GBAPlayer for the GameCube when that comes for 40 bux.

  13. Nintendo Finally Does it Right by antinous57 · · Score: 5, Informative

    After fumbling around trying to find the best source for light, whether it be my lamp in the living room or the ever annoying 'Worm Light' attachment, the Gameboy will come with a backlit screen. Not only that, but a rechargeable battery that comes standard, and a price tag (albeit you don't import it before the US release date) that will be less than $100. It will make it worth my time to give games like Castlevania a second look considering the first time I played the game I couldn't even see the game b/c the screen was so dark.

  14. DMCA Timer by OffTheRack · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's nice to see inside of these devices without having the crack open one yourself. How long before DMCA is used by a company to prosecute anyone that shares such photos? Does anyone know if that has already happened?

    1. Re:DMCA Timer by phoxix · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Why the heck do we always assume that the DMCA will be used against us for everything?

      This type of thought is getting really disgusting. Sure the DMCA need to be worried about, but letting the DMCA shape our lives without the corporate whores doing anything is giving them the automatic win.

      Just my two cents

      Sunny Dubey

  15. crash test by mirko · · Score: 3, Informative
    Funny you should mention that because Lik Sang also published some GBSP crash test videos :
    • http://media.lik-sang.com/content/gbasp-crash/gb asp-extreme-crashtest-liksang_com2.avi
    • http://media.lik-sang.com/content/gbasp-crash/gb asp-extreme-crashtest-liksang_com3.avi
    • http://media.lik-sang.com/content/gbasp-crash/gb asp-extreme-crashtest-liksang_com4.avi
    • http://media.lik-sang.com/content/gbasp-crash/gb asp-extreme-crashtest-liksang_com5.avi
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  16. Re:GBA-SP has no region lockout that the GBA had. by hyphz · · Score: 4, Informative

    The GBA did not have regional lockout.

  17. Americans get screwed by Nakanai_de · · Score: 5, Informative

    I just thought I'd point out that, here in Japan, the GBA-SP comes in 3 colors: silver, cobalt, and black. The U.S. version will only come in the first two. (IMO, this sucks, as black is the coolest.)

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  18. No Competition by GweeDo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As of right now the GBA has no competition at all. The GP32 can't even been seen as an issue due to its pure lack of power. While it has a higher MHZ rating it doesn't have any special hardware to deal with sprite effects, background effects and more...this is where the GBA really out muscles it. The Nokia NGage is still a vague object on the horizon if you ask me. And when we finally do get to truely see it, it will be an over priced monster without support from the big channels that it needs and with a customer base that is too small. The GBA SP is just Nintendo's next step in maintaining their control on this market.

    1. Re:No Competition by radish · · Score: 2, Informative

      N-gage has been launched, has been reviewed and will be in the shops soon. They've signed a big deal with Sega for content. I'm not saying it's any good or anything, but it is real.

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  19. Obligatory Backlight Joke by Cyno01 · · Score: 2, Funny
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  20. Re:With the size of a mini CD I don't see why Sony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If a PSOne + 4" LCD screen without battery or integrated controller costs $150, how much do you think your smaller version with integrated controller, 3" screen, hi-capacity battery (because of all the freaking MOVING PARTS), USB, and mini-DVD drive instead of a regular CD drive cost?

    If your answer is $200 or more, congratulations, you have yourself a portable system that will sell so few numbers as to be unprofitable, and therefore unfeasible for any smart company to produce.

    More likely scenario is that SUCCESSFUL portable game systems NEVER "evolve" to use optical media drives which use moving parts. They are OLD/inferior technology compared to current high-capacity solid-state storage media, and are completely unsuited to portability. Think discman vs. mp3 player. Nintendo will own this market for as long as they stick to cartridge-based portables that maintain compatibility with older software. The real next step, hopefully, will be a GB with back-compatility, front-lit screen, full complement of 6 or more buttons not counting select and start, wireless connectivity of some sort, minimum 16-bit 22.05 KHz 2MB wavetable sound, and Playstation-level 3d hardware. Such a system that is durable enough to be handled by children will not hit the $100 magic price point for another 4-5 years at least.

  21. Or... by Rayonic · · Score: 2, Funny

    Or buy the GBA games that you want, download (or rip) the game ROM, and play it on an emulator.

    Hm...

  22. Re:With the size of a mini CD I don't see why Sony by adzoox · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Current, "nearly CD diameter" CD Players get 20 hours off of two AA batteries. A Casio 4" TV gets about 4 hours off of two AA batteries. With a higher capacity LI ON or Polymer battery like the iPod has in it, the ability to play Mp3's and watch movies - like the rumored video iPod - could EASILY sell millions of units at $199. The gamecube could be shrunk, less controller, less bulk, less packaging = possibility to add the features I have mentioned. There would be almost ZERO cost for production (a little R&D) to produce a Gameboy cart interface for it. An entire gameboy "electronics set fits into a space about the size of a gameboy cart!

    Besides, who YET has money money initially selling the hardware?

    And I disagree with you. Cart games are EXPENSIVE to produce. optical games can be cranked out up to 20X faster and if I read right at Tokyo ETimes about this; a total "optical game" package costs even after royalty for about $4-$7 US. A cart costs up to $15 to produce.

    Nintendo has LOST the home war. They will soon lose the portable war if they don't come up with something better than cartridges.

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  23. Re:With the size of a mini CD I don't see why Sony by Guppy06 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "I don't see why Sony ... could make something with a 3 inch screen and mini DVD and integrated controls."

    Because maybe Game Boy has been eating technilogically superior handhelds for breakfast for the better part of a decade now and Sony isn't dumb enough to spend all that R & D money on cannon fodder?

    "I believe battery technology is where it would need to be for a unit like this as well."

    This new Game Boy uses a Li-ion battery. What more do you want?

  24. Perhaps you would prefer Side Light by Scyber · · Score: 2, Informative

    The light in the GBA SP IS in front of the LCD screen (or more accurately, around the edges in front) . It has to be since the LCD is transreflective. The screen reflects and light hitting it back through the pixels. This prevents the screen from getting washed-out in bright daylight.

  25. Re:With the size of a mini CD I don't see why Sony by t0ny · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I dont agree about Nintendo losing the home war. I think now that Zelda and Metroid are out, you will start seeing a lot of GameCubes selling. I know I always intended to get one, but the only compelling reason to get one, for me, was those two games; now that they are out I will buy.

    Another problem, for me anyway, is that there isnt one of the three (GC, PS2, and XBox) that is a clear loser.

    PS2 isnt as technologically advanced hardware-wise as XBox, but it has a really good stable of games, AND is backward compatible with PS1 (a real plus, since PS1 was the last generation best seller, and still has really good games).

    XBox has some really kick-butt hardware, but since they are the new kid, they have yet to get games associated with MS (like Mario, Metroid, and Zelda for Nintendo, or Final Fantasy and Metal Gear for Sony; technically FF is Square, and not specifically tied to Sony, but you get the point). XBox has really come on strong with XBox Live, and the ability to potentially use it as a mini-PC is very intreging to me as a computer geek.

    Finally, GameCube has the GBA link thing (which they need to use in more games), they have all the signature Nintendo games, and their game design is continually breaking new ground in terms of originality. I wish other games had copied Zelda: Ocharina of Time's control features- it just worked so well. Metroid does this as well with their 'Lock-on'; aiming has always been a weakness on the console compared to a keyboard/mouse setup.

    But the poster before was right- you will always be better off with solid-state devices on a portable system. Moving parts = things to break.

    Also, throwing all those things into one device, while nice on paper, will cost so much, and take so much development time, that by the time you get it to market it will be three years from now and cost $500- a price point that nobody will want to approach (hear that Palm?). Nintendo knows what they are doing. The most someone would reasonably expect to spend for something like that is around $100.

    Once you start to approach $200, people start thinking about all the other things they can do with that money. Also, what parent in their right mind is going to give a $200 portable device to their kid, that they can throw in their book-bag, break, or lose?

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  26. ARM processor by ScannerBoy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Anyone have any specs on the processor and when I can expect to install my favorite *nix version on the SP?

    Come on, I can't be the only one who thought of it!

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  27. Learn From Apple!! by Sophrosyne · · Score: 2

    This thing is very cool... but there is just a few things that could be done to make it just a tiny bit better.
    First off- the (nintendo®) Logo on the front is backwards when the screen is in the open position, this is the same mistake that Apple made with it's powerbooks and eventually fixed Pic
    Second- the shoulder buttons are upside down! I assume they did this so you could check to see which button was R and Which was L when you flip the device towards you... but really is that necessary? Most people, even children know their left from their right hands- and even if they don't they somehow adapt and figure out what each button does... anyways perhaps it's only me but the buttons seem upside-down Pic
    Lastly- a dimmer on the backlight sounds like a good idea.
    It looks great and I really look forward to getting my hands on one- nice job Nintendo!