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Build Your Own Submarine
Nerobro writes "There's a group of geeks out there who are bound and determined to build their own submarines. In fact, there's a large group who have been successful. The most interesting is Cartsen Standfuss's CSSX-1. There is a mailing list, owners group and sizeable archive of information at psubs.org."
they don't build their own coffins too.
This is more dangerous than home built aircraft.
It's Christmas everyday with BitTorrent.
The back of Popular Science has had Advertisments for plans for your own submarine,helicopter,airplane,etc... for decades. My neighbor growing up made the mini-sub in his garage.
No not a wear a wetsuit and you get an air-bubble type a full dry submarine capable of diving I believe he took it down to 60 feet... didn't have the guts to go lower than what you can safely escape from..
Nothing new here.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
I'm travelling to the US. This should make me feel 'secure'.
If you keep throwing chairs, one day you'll break windows....
..as long as it's yellow
Nerds should have this thing flying, uhh I mean floatin, errr boyancy? through the water.
http://www.hispanicvista.com/html/000908am.html
so they can say what's long, hard, and full of nerd seamen? our submarine.
MS version: Get SubXP from the store. DOWNGRADE (we're talking submarines, remember) it with SP2. BSD : (Berkley Submarine Divn) Assemble the parts under water. Linux version : AskSlashdot.
I dream of making a miniature remote controlled submarine. I have dreamed of putting torpedoes on it, too. It's a whole new way of fishing! Torpedo-Fried Algae/Fish/Dirt/Water/etc!
Surface, surface!
Sorry, Captain, the trim panel is trying to lend me money and the buoyancy controls are telling me where to buy a firewall.....thunk
Panurge has posted for the last time. Thanks for the positive moderations.
Nice project. I'd like to see more of the Deep Flight type submersibles though, rather than these ballast-based beasts.
...who will they tell it to?
Peter Madsen successfully operated his homegrown 1-man submarine in the harbour of Copenhagen last fall. It has been submerged for 1½ hour, and gone to a depth of 10 m.
That came on the heels of an accident where his submarine was heavily damaged by crashing into a bridge. Don't blame Peter though - it was carried on a truck! (danish)
During the test this fall the only problem was paranoid police boarding the sub (danish) to assure that Peter was not an activist intending to disrupt the EU summit.
Any sufficiently advanced libertarian utopia is indistinguishable from government.
you can purchase your very own working second-hand submarine for a mere £40,000. aphex twin (music artist) has one.
"1,000 miles on the clock. only one careful owner, an old ladie who used it to pop down to the shops to pick up her groceries"
The most interesting is Cartsen Standfuss's CSSX-1.
Translation from Babelfish:
Hello of people, we look forward much you to our homepage to welcome to be allowed. Since, as can see it, our project takes slowly forms, we did not want to withhold it from anybody and you here on these sides from now on up to date will hold. Much fun... the Euronauten
The small cruiser is awake sank 1901 due to a Kollison during a fleet maneuver. Those is awake on request national office for soil care of monuments of the Mecklenburg Vorpommern only once with the data base was theoretically determined. Then regained by that private Wracksuchkutter Viney Peglar 1996 by means of Sidescan sonar before ruegen in the Baltic Sea only few hundred meters apart from the calculated position. The trunk of the Wrackes is not still very well received - superstructures. (source of photo: Kroschel Evers the German fleet 1848-1945)
Yes, hello of people. We also try to keep our data base theoretically determined. And we really appreciate that you look forward to welcome to allow us to your homepage. Much fun!
"I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full frontal lobotomy"
The jocks will be building ASDIC and depth charges. Prepare to experience the true meaning of "ping".
When I am king, you will be first against the wall.
Looks like the next round of Darwin Awards should be intetresting.
"Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
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There are two basic design approaches to submarines. Ambient pressure designs and 1 atmosphere designs. They both have advantages and disadvantages and selecting the proper type depends on your criteria. Primarily the deciding criteria is cost and depth:
Ambient
Cost: $1,000 - $20,000
Max Depth: 0-160 feet
1 Atmosphere
Cost: $10,000 - $500,000
Max Depth: 0-1000+ feet
http://www.psubs.org/faq.html
Theres a niche, but probably lucrative market for these things if they know where to look.
I.O.U One Sig.
This has to be stopped !
terrorists could capture one and...and...
think of the children !
Should we nominate them as a group or each individual independently?
echo '[q]sa[ln0=aln80~Psnlbx]16isb572CCB9AE9DB03273snlbxq' |dc
Without being disrespectful to the Free Submarines Foundation, I would like to mention the existence of this Open Source Submarines webpage.
Apparently, the Open Source developmentmodel is very suitable for building submarines. I cheer at this development. However, I still prefer free as in Willy submarines.
DNA is the ultimate spaghetti code.
Sorry, should have included the <FACETIOUS> tags, apparently!
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Impressive as the linked submarine is, it's just like a military boat: a steel cylinder. As useful as such a thing may be as a weapons platform, I can't imagine anybody riding in the thing for pleasure.
My own fantasy of a personal submarine comes from the Nautilus in 20000 Leagues Under the Sea. The most important feature: a glassed in drawing room, furnished with overstuffed chairs and oriental rugs, from which I can survey the unfolding panorama of the sea as I smoke seaweed cigars and sup on lobster tails whilst I plot my revenge on humanity.
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In other news today, Microsoft has already announced an ultra realistic sim version of building your own submarine, which allows you to actually take your craft into the water and suffocate OR drown to death.
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all boats are submarines.... once.
It's coming back up that is the hard part.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
Universities like Virginia Tech have been building these things for years.
If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem
Geeks already built a submarine, the dot com business model. Oh yeah, it wouldn't resurface.
If the Germans figure out how to attach their potato bazookas to their home made subs we're all screwed.
Trolling is a art,
Structural failure leading to implosion!
Even at just 100 meters depth, you don't get much warning of a hull failure. One buckled plate becomes a total breach in about 1 second.
Deeper than 100 meters, I'm told that the water entering a breached hull hits you rather like a steam-hammer with most unpleasant results.
These things are great so long as you keep positive pressure (the difference between tin-can and crushed tin-can). However, keeping that pressure is probably defined as a 'blood-difficult' thing.
An automatic buyancy system is a great thing to have in an emergency unless the only thing it drags back to the surface is submariner soup
Fair play to this guy for having a go; he's definately got guts. I seem to remember that Germans used to be rather good at building these things.
As for homebuilt aircraft, barring structural failure, in an emergency you tend to have one major thing on your side: Time
Ripping an new rectum in the fabric of spacetime.
I spent 6 years on or working on fast attack subs. We had controls called Subsafe. This meant every part contributing to water tight integrity was tracked from the start of manufacture to installation.
Subsafe parts were quite expensive...but you were 100% pretty confident you weren't getting some cheap Taiwanese knockoff parts.
Where are these guys getting their stuff, the hardware store down the street? Enough said. Would I even think of going down in one of these boats? No...not ever.
Look at the lessons the Navy learned, Scorpion, Thresher. How are these things powered...batteries? Have you ever heard of the Bonefish
I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people. - Jack Handey
ACHTUNG! ALLES LOOKENSPEEPERS!
Das unterseeboat ist nicht fuer gefingerpoken und mittengrabben. Ist easy schnappen der springenwerk, blowenfusen und poppencorken mit spitzensparken. Ist nicht fuer gewerken bei das dumpkopfen. Das rubbernecken sichtseeren keepen das cotten-pickenen hans in das pockets muss; relaxen und watchen das blinkenlichten.
If your bitterest enemies are people who hack the heads off civilians, then I would say you're doing something right.
This isn't so crazy, on the discovery channel or tlc a while back they had a special about a group of people who were recreating one of the early wooden subs that managed to stay submerged for several hours and sink some other ships or something.
IIRC, the group managed to get the thing built right at the deadline, the were racing against the clock for some reason such as the weather or because of their permit or something like that. And they got all the leaks fixed at the last minute or so, but then they discovered that the amount of carbon dioxide from exhaling quickly poisened the air in the ship for the one guy that was rowing.
Please note that 100 meters is roughly 300 ft or so. These depths were "challenge" even for WWII submersibles, and those beast were after all advanced.
If I'm not much mistaken, German type VII (the thing that Joe Sixpack associates with u-boat) u-boats were rated up to 90 meters. After that, it wass "off the warranty".
I would think twice before going below 10 meters (30 ft), for escape could get very tricky, if not impossible.
1. Make sure you're one of those people who seem to have just a little _too_ much spare time on your hands.
2. Call up the bank just to say "Hi" and ask them if there's a few million bucks to spare on your savings account.
3. Did you write your will yet?
4. Get "Submarines for Dummies" and the highly acclaimed SAMS "Build your own submarine in 24 hours".
5. Buy a nice tube and tons of electronics which you may get a need for.
6. Start building!
That is why all submarines are designed with large safety factors. A submarine with an operational limit of 100 meters will be tested to 300 meter and have calculated crush depth of ~600meters or more.
Viewports are normally the weakest part of a submarines pressure barrier. But they just burst open, they will turn a milky color, the start to star crack, then after about six hour they will burst. OF course you notice the viewport (window) turning a milky color and return to the surface ASAP.
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Two points here: 1) the diameter of the cylinder dramatically effects the crush depth. 2) They have been vast improvements in steel working, producing steel that is many many many times strong that steel in 1945.
I would think twice before going below 10 meters (30 ft), for escape could get very tricky, if not impossible.
Small subs carry bail out gas, if the people in the sub have to leave the vessel they will pressurize the sub so it the same pressure as the outside water, then they can easily open the hatch and return to the surface. Some submarines allow you to do this and go scuba diving (up to a certain depth) then return to the submarine (of course it's flooded so you've gotta have some way of emptying it, either high pressure air or a pump).
M0571y H@rml355.
Read The American Bureau of Shipping's: Rules for building and classiing underwater vehicles, systems and hyperbaric facilities. OR Busby's Manned Submersibles for more information.
To pressurize a sub to match water pressure with air would be extremely dangerous if done in a hurry and the air would become poisonous; to breathe under pressure at depth (Deephabs) you have to be slowly pressurised with exotic gases. Note that regular submarines only increase pressure a little when submerged.
There is no way you are going to beable to open the hatch if the outside pressure is greater than the internal pressure. Flooding the sub is diffinately an option, but depending on the sub, this can take time (most people put large enough bailout valves to do this in a reasonable amount of time), also if you sub is damaged or disabled you might not beable to flood it. Even with the sub flooded, you still want a small bubble of air to work in while you release the hatch (although you can use scuba gear, but the bends might be more of an issue).
Some psubs allow you to flood them so you can go for a swim and then return.
Immediately you let go of the sub you find yourself ascending at an incredible rate, gas rushing from your mouth, nose ears and eye sockets and your lungs searing. Finally you arrive at the surface travelling at such a rate that you are thrown several feet in the air. Somehow your lungs/arteries didn't rupture during the ascent but you now die in 20-30seconds from the massive nitrogen boil-off in your veins as you suffer from an incredible case of 'bends'
Yell all the way up. The bends won't normally be a problem since you are not spending enough time under pressure to become saturated (of course, if you had to spend a lot of time trapped in you sub while under pressure this would be an issue).
No two ways about it, submarines are still extremely dangerous.
Hehe, agreed, but everything is dangerous if you are stupid enough.
M0571y H@rml355.