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Digital Restrictions Management in Office 11

conaone writes "According to a Microsoft Watch, there is a feature in the leaked Office 2003 called "Information Rights Management." A lot more control over documents with this... the story says: "Microsoft is threading DRM throughout the Office 2003 suite, allowing restrictions to be set on Outlook mail messages, as well as on Word, Excel and PowerPoint documents. Using "permission templates," document authors can determine restriction policies to be applied to entire categories of documents, according to Microsoft's site." Here's a link to the whole story."

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  1. This shouldn't concern anyone on Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Because none of us are using Microsoft products or file formats... right?

    1. Re:This shouldn't concern anyone on Slashdot by twert · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Of course your are forgetting the most anoying thing about being in IT.... "You know some thing about computers, can explain why I can't print this e-mail" I can see the stupid questions pileing up now.

      (Does it look like I work at for the help-desk?)

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    2. Re:This shouldn't concern anyone on Slashdot by MikeXpop · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Wrong. The majority of /. readers use Windows. Besides, even for those of us who don't use any Microsoft products at all, it's always good to know. Keep in mind slashdot is News for nerds, not News for Linux users.

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  2. Yes... by MrEd · · Score: 5, Insightful
    There's demand in any organization for digital rights management... you want to restrict modifying the purchase order forms to the accounting department, but make them globally readable? Check.


    Not all DRM is about P2P.

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  3. openoffice, koffice, etc. by wfmcwalter · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...which naturally gives them an exc^h^h^hright to permanently break interoperability with OpenOffice, Koffice, etc. It's like Trusted Computing and signed Xbox images - they're not trying to shut out competition, but if that incidentally happens, they're not going to cry about it.

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  4. Re:If they want to use their own dog food... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was at MS for a job interview in the not so distant past and a lot of office doors have signs that say "OFFICE XP FREE OFFICE - DOG FOOD SUCKS" with a picture of an 11 with the circle/slash through it. Some people even went so far as to have pictures of the software and a dog taking a dump on it. I asked around and a lot of people were like "yeah, it's pretty divided. Even the Office team isn't too impressed by it."

    Posting AC since I signed that nasty NDA you know.. And - yes, I did get an offer, and yes, I did laugh at them.

  5. Next gas: 50 miles by lynx_user_abroad · · Score: 5, Insightful
    This is a warning to all of you who have Important Data inside a Microsoft file format: This is your last chance to get the information out of a proprietary format and into a format you can control.

    Once this hits the market, anyone trying to sell software which can bypass the access control mechanisms of Word to read copyrighted information (it's all copyrighted) from within a protected document will be strung-up as a DMCA criminal.

    This feature will not be offered as a part of Open Office.

    It's kinda like those "Last gas for 50 miles" signs you see outside the overpriced gas station in the middle of the desert. Here's your chance. Miss it, and there's no turning back.

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  6. The Implications of this are Huge by Teckla · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Think about it:

    * It makes the chances of writing an office suite that is compatible with MS Office 2003 almost impossible. I bet the DMCA will make it illegal to reverse engineer the crypto you'll find this new IRM technology uses.

    * It boosts Windows Server sales, since this technology will require Windows Server. UNIX-based file servers need not apply; they aren't IRM-enabled (and not allowed to be, thanks to the DCMA).

    * It'll force users to upgrade Office. Yes, Office 97 already does way more than you need already. Too bad. You'll need to keep your version compatible with all the IRM-laden .doc, .xls, .pps, etc. files that'll be flying around.

    * The PHB's of the world will eat this technology up without realizing the consequences.

    Microsoft is brilliant. Fucking brilliant. I thought they were starting to lose it, but they're not. They've found new and amazing ways to leverage their monopoly; except, this time, it's not their OS monopoly. It's their office suite monopoly. My hat is off to you, Microsoft.

    Corrections welcome.

    -Teckla

  7. *Why* this shouldn't concern anyone on Slashdot by 0x0d0a · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Because this will undoubtedly be cracked within a month, tops. There's a good chance it's already been cracked based on the betas -- and Slashdot posting it *ensures* that every techie that didn't already know about it does.

    Heck, *I* woulda cracked it if I had a copy sitting around and had any interest in Office, just for the egg-on-your-face factor affecting Microsoft when they try selling their "strong" security to companies.

    You cannot do secure DRM in the current computing environment. *Maybe* with Palladium in place. Definitely not now.

    The only benefit I can see this giving Microsoft is a legal excuse to make their file formats *incompatible* with everyone else, and anyone else implementing support for their file formats being liable under the DMCA.

    Office is Microsoft's bread and butter, and incompatibility is the worker that brings it home each day.

  8. First use of DMCA to protect file format by 0x0d0a · · Score: 5, Informative

    Incidently, this may be the first time someone's tried using the DMCA to enforce *file format* incompatibility. MS has done it before with copyrights (claiming that the C header files in wine used to implement Win32 were "derivative" of their own header files), with trade secrets (claiming that the "open" spec for their Kerberos modifications were protected as a "trade secret" and that no one else could implement it). It's been done before with patents (people claiming that an executable packer uses a patented algorithm). The special cases the DMCA puts into law are the only fork of IP that hasn't yet been used to try to ensure incompatibility.

    Oh, and I dunno what MS's lawyers were threatening Nullsoft with if they didn't disable their "save to WAV" feature whenever users play a WMA file in WinAmp, but that theoretically could have been patent claims, so this may be a grand slam for MS in terms of misapplying IP law to screw the consumer if they try to go with a competitor's product -- they alone will have covered the entire gamut.

  9. Let me guess by skintigh2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Software that doesn't support DRM will not be able to view these documents, and making software such as open office compatible will be a DMCA violation.

    It's all falling into place quite well. It's amazing what kind of ROI you can get on Senators.